What happened on April 11?
Grand jury rejects charges against family accused of attacking police
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The family was out of control – brawling with police and shouting obscenities, according to police.
But Dalhia Villarreal remembers the night of April 11 differently. Villarreal said police bullied and beat her, her father, her brother, her nephew and a neighbor. All five were arrested.
“I hate that night,” she said recently, sobbing while sitting at her mother’s plastic-wrapped kitchen table.
A grand jury last week rejected the charges of assaulting a public servant police filed against the family, District Attorney Stephen Tyler said. The grand jury said a disorderly conduct charge might have merit, but recommended Tyler not prosecute.
Tyler hasn’t seen any charges against the officers, he said.
An internal investigation cleared the officers of wrongdoing, Chief Bruce Ure said.
The Advocate requested police records from the investigation on Thursday. The city attorney is reviewing the photos, videos and written reports before they are released to the public, Capt. Roy Boyd said.
The Advocate requested a use of force report in April, after the family complained about the police. The Attorney General’s office ruled in June the city must release the use of force report.
Police fill out the aptly named reports when they use force – for example, if they threaten to shoot a gun, stun a suspect with a Taser or hit a suspect with hands or an asp baton, Ure said.
What happened in April
Photos of smiling relatives beam from walls and cabinets in Juanita and Santos Cano’s home. They’ve owned the figurine-packed house at 3002 Callis St. house for 35 years, and raised five kids there.
Typically, their grown children visit often. Villarreal lives just blocks away and, until April, she said, dropped by her parents’ home all the time.
Her older brother, 44-year-old Victor Cano, and his girlfriend brought Juanita and Santos Cano dinner on April 11.
“We’re so close, he brings me leftovers,” Juanita Cano said, teasing her son.
After Victor Cano went to his parents’ house that night, three men jumped the fence and attacked him, then his parents, he said.
Victor Cano’s girlfriend, Irma Garcia, called police.
Juanita Cano called Villarreal, who rushed over in her nightgown.
When police arrived, everyone was upset, according to a narrative in the use of force report, written by officer Gary Melson.
“We calmed the situation and had (the fire department) make the scene to check on the assault victims,” he wrote. “The assault victims refused treatment and then began letting VPD officers know what had happened.”
Villarreal was hysterical by the time she got to her parents’ house.
Villarreal sobbed and yelled at her sister, 43-year-old Irma Huerta, both said. Now, Villarreal’s face becomes covered in tears when she says she has a big mouth.
That night, Villarreal said, she told her sister the police weren’t doing their jobs and cursed them.
In Melson’s account, he writes that Villarreal rushed at officers, screaming.
“She continued screaming profanity, which is normally found to be offensive and continued quickly approaching us,” he wrote. “This started getting the crowd worked up again and inciting an immediate breach of the peace. I confronted the female to try and separate her from the others in the crowd.”
When she wouldn’t calm down, Melson wrote, he tried to arrest her for disorderly conduct, language.
“He was just shoving my face in the fence,” Villarreal said. “I said, ‘You’re hurting me.’ He was just shoving me. He said it was my fault because I wouldn’t keep my mouth shut.”
Victor Cano heard the fray as paramedics inspected his face under flashlight, he said. He reached behind his back, waving to officers.
“I told the officers, ‘We’ll control her,’” Cano said. “Next thing you know, I’m on the ground.”
Victor Cano charged police, yelling at them and screaming, according to the use of force report.
“At that time I focused my attention on him and took him to the ground,” Melson wrote. “When he was taken to the ground he rolled on to his back and I was on top of him at about chest level with his arms still uncontrolled. Once on the ground he continued to resist my efforts to control him, refusing to go to his stomach, preventing me from getting him handcuffed.”
Victor Cano remembers getting hit once and falling to the ground. He put his hands behind his back and told officers to go ahead and cuff him, he said. Melson did, then he picked up Cano and threw him to the ground, Cano said.
“He kept hitting me,” Cano said.
Juanita Cano saw her son’s eyes roll back in his head when it hit the pavement, she said.
As Melson hit Victor Cano, his father said he expected other officers to help his son. They never did, Santos Cano said.
Even at 65, Santos Cano seems to pack more brawn than this 4 feet, 11 inch frame. He doesn’t deny his criminal record – which includes attempted murder charges from 1991.
Watching an officer straddle his son and swing away upset him, he said. He ran over to push 26-year-old Melson off, he said.
Santos Cano hit Melson, while Villarreal jumped on him, according to the use of force report.
“If I’d have kicked him, he’d have known it,” Santos Cano said.
Santos Cano remembers clubs “raining down on me.” Then, an officer stunned him with a Taser, according to both Santos Cano and police.
As the brawl continued, Morris Valentine, an 18-year-old neighbor, said he approached police. He tried to tell them to stop hitting the Canos, he said.
“I asked them to stop,” Valentine said. “I was trying to help them.”
Earlier, Valentine had seen three men attacking Victor Cano, so he hopped on his bike and followed the three as they ran.
As police tried to handcuff Victor Cano, Melson wrote, Valentine walked over and grabbed a hold of him. Valentine was in the way, although officers told him to back up, the report says.
Officer Stephen Lang stunned Valentine with a Taser three or four times – five seconds each jolt – Lang wrote in another section of the report.
Valentine, Villarreal, Victor and Santos Cano were arrested. So was Huerta’s 19-year-old son, Joe Huerta. Huerta was yelling profanities, according to the report, calling his outburst “an immediate breach of peace.”
Villarreal begged officers to let her change, she said. Her nightgown was soaked. She lowered her eyes and her voice as she described her condition.
“I was so scared, I peed myself,” she said. The embarrassment Villarreal felt before jailers let her change out of the sodden clothes still stings.
“I was really embarrassed,” said Villarreal. “Every time I see a cop, I get scared or cry.”
Her young son recently told her he didn’t like police because they hurt his grandfather and uncle.
“We don’t teach them that,” Juanita Cano said. “They’re supposed to be there to protect them.”
Villarreal has never been arrested before, she said. District court records show no criminal charges against her. Her brother went to prison after pleading guilty to criminal mischief, according to records. Records show Santos Cano unlawfully carried a firearm after he was convicted of attempted murder.
“This is not the first time I’ve been in trouble,” Santos Cano said. But he’s never hit a cop and he’s never lied, he said.
Police damaged his family on April 11, Cano said, comforting his daughter as she sobbed at the memories. Villarreal, 36, won’t return to school because she’s ashamed of the fracas, she said.
Victor Cano’s neck aches – an MRI shows his vertebrae are damaged. Santos Cano’s shoulder was injured, he said.
“They messed up my brain,” Santos Cano said. “Because I’m always thinking about this.”
Leslie Wilber is a reporter for the Victoria Advocate. Contact her at 361-580-6521 or e-mail her at lwilber@vicad.com or comment on this story at www.VictoriaAdvocate.com
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Good job VPD
September 26, 2009 at 5:05 p.m.now you guys have got me laughing.
July 31, 2009 at 1:33 a.m.shame on you.
This thread will be locked. Many of the posts are against Advocate policy. The posts in question are off topic and are personal attacks.
July 7, 2008 at 7:08 a.m.Libertyunt justice: sounds like an episode of "Cops"! My dad told me a long time ago, never try to stop another families argument--you'll end up the bad guy.
July 7, 2008 at 12:43 a.m.Ragman - "This family puts the fun in dysfunctional."
Tee-hee! Now, THAT'S fun! Here's more:
They put the FUNK in dysfunctional.
They put the DISS in dysfunctional.
With a little more work, this could turn into a solid Top-Ten hit.
July 7, 2008 at 12:36 a.m.OMG I just read this story and it sounds like typical "familia" B.S. if you ask me. How many times has anyone gone to a family gathering and had some B.S. go on there, then once the cops responded instead of the person they wanted getting into trouble someone else did how sadly they cried about how they were mistreated. I once went on a ridealong with VPD and remember going to a call where a woman was being abused by her husband and once we got there he was gone, the officer checked her home to make sure he was gone and the lady said if he came back she would call again, we rode around the neighborhood thinking that he might still be in the area and saw a car pull up to this ladies house so we went back thinking that it was her husband back to hurt her, but no it was her son and daughter(of course we did not know this when we pulled up). Upon getting out of the patrol car the woman became irate with the officer and started to throw her arms yelling that nothing was done blah blah blah, then when her son tried to calm her down and get her inside the house she began pushing on him and started talking mad mess to the officer who had turned back around to make sure that this lady was ok! By this time there were about 2 other units there and the lady was still talking smack when the officers were trying to get information from the others who were there to see if they had any information that could help in finding this womans husband whom she claimed abused her. The lady began to threaten the officers and was arrested for public intoxication once she set foot on the street. I could not believe the way this woman was acting, I mean here are people who came to her aid, she called them and once the put the handcuffs on her she tried to bit them, head-butt them and everything else. When they finally got her in the car she kicked out the window and continued yelling obsceneties! Now not everyone has a perfect life or family but if you screwed up, fess up to it and stop trying to place blame elsewhere. Cry me a river for the family that thought they were billy bad a** and ended up getting into more trouble than they thought. Kudos to the officers.
July 7, 2008 at 12:18 a.m.Willie and TomC: Shame on you both. Savannah has distanced herself from her relatives that are on the wrong side of the law and you make fun of her spelling. How petty and trite and just plain mean.
July 6, 2008 at 10:49 p.m.This family puts the fun in dysfunctional.
July 6, 2008 at 10:36 p.m.This story says that three people jumped the fence and attacked Victor. And nothing else about it. That is odd in itself. It has not been often, as a matter of fact, never, that three people have jumped my fence and attacked me. Could this Wilbur person have been more complete and elaborated on this fact a bit more? Laziness on her part? I'd be willing to bet that attack was an instigation of this dysfunctional family...
July 6, 2008 at 9:43 p.m.Dang it, I always miss the good posts. I just finally got caught up and have to say I'm sorry I missed the fun. Hey bigmommas house, what gives? And no I actually don't watch cops and as a matter of fact I said "reality police shows" which yes includes cops and other shows. My guess is this, you guys called the police, police didn't believe your story or ya'll were too busy acting like animals it never got that far. One person cussed, which by the way the Supreme Court says profanity is not protected in the 1st Amendment. Your family gets arrested so you guys now do a 360 and get mad at the cops. Your true sides come out and boom, you all go to jail. And something about the dad being that age and according to the article, of small stature making the comment about "If I kicked him he would know it" is ridiculous. I doubt the cops were scared of him no more then me being frightened of a rabid ankle biting dog nipping at my shoelaces. And tstorm and southtexas, its nice to be on the 'same side' for once. Luminary, as for your posts.....wtf?
July 6, 2008 at 9:35 p.m.good bye my fellow poster!
July 6, 2008 at 9:19 p.m.Not touching that one either!
signing off....have a good night!
July 6, 2008 at 9:16 p.m.Well put Willie! I do feel for this family but, what you got to understand when you go public you leave things wide open for attacks. That's in any situation! I keep hearing the video about the dad saying they were beating him my son, than he says they were killing him so which was what? Well it will be forgotten by the end of the week!
July 6, 2008 at 9:04 p.m.uhm willie i didnt write that. my mom did. and just so you know you should feel very stupid. your fighting with a 14 year old. but its ohk, u can talk about me and what i say but im the one who put up with the things CANO'S do and i thank god that im not like them even if ya'll say i am. bhut like i said its ohk say wat you have to say
July 6, 2008 at 9 p.m.I am just going to leave that one alone Savannah!
I must be talking out of my "behind", as Bigmamma said earlier?!?
July 6, 2008 at 8:50 p.m.As for you willie and you tom c. I know all the parties in the family and as long as you dont know what is going on I think the girl Savannah has a right to express her feelings on the matter since she went threw life putting up with these people she has a right to say what she feels so as for them being proud of her they dont need to be proud of her she has alot of people that are very proud of her because she has done very good in life and it was not thanks to any of the cano's. She will be a someone in life she is in all GT classes she is always helping people and is there for everyone and never puts anyone down for her to have said what she did it came from her heart because she does not put anyone down so yall to people need to shut the hell up and worry about keeping on playing the games yall are playing back and forth on this site.
July 6, 2008 at 8:43 p.m.Savannah: I dont know that I would have even laid claim to being any part of that family. But it is appearant that you share the same genes. HA
You know, I may misspell a word every now and then. I may even miss some punctuation, or even add it when it is not necessary at all, but I will have to say one thing....
Some of these posters are comical!
July 6, 2008 at 8:35 p.m.savannah...I'm sure the family is equally proud of you and your accomplishments in life. Thanks for your input. NOT! lol
July 6, 2008 at 8:20 p.m.for one these people have been worthless since the day i was born.yep thats right these people are my "family" ha NOT im on my own dont claim them.....they are stupid for even trying to go public on this story they always have to be the "center of attention" there is so much i have to say to these people but for now im just saying that this story sounds so retarded. if they wanted help cuz poor daddy victor was gettin jumped then they should have kept their mouths SHUT. ha smart people
July 6, 2008 at 8:16 p.m.I agree with tstorm --- no need to bring Tyler into this.... he did his part by presenting it to the GJ ---'nuff said.
July 6, 2008 at 7:04 p.m.Besides, I'm having way too much fun laughing at these people and their ridiculous claims and laughing at some of the posts in here!!!!
I think this is one of those times when the following adage applies: Laugh and the world laughs with you. Cry, and you cry alone!!!
Shocking!! Just Shocking I tell ya!!
July 6, 2008 at 6:58 p.m.These kinds of folks are such Dumb butts!
what. a sob story,Of course i don't believe one word of it. I side with VPD, and so should everyone else. What a slap on the face to officers who risk their lives. Seems to me Tyler worked harder to get city officials indicted than actual criminals. That's Tyler the criminals pal. By the way did'nt he employ a child molester.
July 6, 2008 at 6:43 p.m.Luminary....we'll just switch to German....the easiest language in the world to learn. Everything is pronounced exactly as spelled and base nouns are kept in the same form, i.e. I am sick (krank). I go to the hospital (krankenhaus). They take me in an ambulance (krankenwagen). Cool huh.....
I love Mark Twain, but I do think on occasion he smoked those funny cigarettes.
July 6, 2008 at 6:05 p.m.I am fairly sure most on here are of the Caucasian RACE. Same as the folks in the Story. Now if we are talking heritage? That covers a lot of territory around these parts.
July 6, 2008 at 5:15 p.m.German, Checks(sp) its spelled like it sounds!, Polish, Mexican, Irish (hiccup), Scots, Spanish, French(whoops dropped my gun), English (I'll pick it up), Swedes, Norwegian, get the point? All Caucasian.
LOL texasmom!!! it's ok though, I'll get that prescription!!! This is just too funny!
On a more serious note, it isn't right to bring out the race card justmeme --- none of us on this forum care about the ethnicity of this family --- just their primate-like behavior. (No offense to any primates in here)
July 6, 2008 at 5:05 p.m.darlin64 OMG!! You will need Detrol LA!! Wait! Wait! I forget you know where I live! Hell!
July 6, 2008 at 5:01 p.m.Earlier this morning, I was really angry about this story... but reading these posts.... I can't stop laughing! Southtexas and some of the others, well we may not agree on all the issues, but I'm so glad that we have found some common ground here.
Bigmomma and Justmeme.... OMG! stop! I'm going to pee myself ---- from laughing!!!
July 6, 2008 at 4:55 p.m.The Grand Jury probably dismissed the case, because it was a, he said, she said situation. OR a, they said, they said.
July 6, 2008 at 4:55 p.m. Bigbertha, I mean mama, please--your are illiterate, stop posting, you are embarrassing the morons. River is right spell check doesn't correct literacy.
I think I will hang with the VPD on this one! They came when called, they busted heads, they hauled folks to jail. Talk crap to the police, that's what happens. Swing at them, get you're head busted and zapped.
They would rather be "judged by 12 than carried by 6." Sorry, I love that line.
I think "thall was a word invented by Jessica Simpson, as in " Howdy Th'all!"
July 6, 2008 at 4:28 p.m.Ernie...thanks for pointing that out! I didnt want to say anything. I did not want it to seem like I was attacking someone with an "educational handycap"! Notice the spelling of handicap.
These blogs are even more humorous than the story itself!
Please keep entertaining us Bigmamma and Justmeme!
July 6, 2008 at 4:23 p.m.Oooops! Sorry, STX and JustMyThoughts...
but tha'll are still gonna have to clean that up your own selves!
Ernie
July 6, 2008 at 4:20 p.m.Tha'll shouldst stop bearing false witness against thy neighbors.
That's #9 on God's Top Ten list, from whom Letterman stole the idea.
oy vey...
July 6, 2008 at 4:16 p.m.What's a "thall?"
Is that like some sort of archaic contraction of the Texan "y'all"? You all = y'all. thall = thou all?
I'm confused...
And my color is.....blue. It's a nice color. Soothing, quiet, calm.
Yeah, I like blue.
Ernie
July 6, 2008 at 4:10 p.m.Why was nothing heard from the Cano's on April 12th or April 13, or April 14? I would think if they felt wronged they would have been crying to the Advocate sooner than they did.Certainly looks like they have lawyered up and have been advised to go public before they file charges or sue.Victor Cano's burn marks in the photos actually look like fire ant bites that he scratched too hard, not taser wounds.
July 6, 2008 at 4:02 p.m.Is the last sentence the only line you read?
July 6, 2008 at 3:58 p.m.Ahh, the infamous race card comes into play! Good one!
Where did Bigmamma go? Justmeme must be giving her a helping hand.
July 6, 2008 at 3:54 p.m.Don't even stoop as low as trying to start screaming race issues here. Give me a break!
July 6, 2008 at 3:40 p.m.And BigMamma is not attacking anyone?
And by all means let's play the race card when you have no idea what color any of us are.
July 6, 2008 at 3:24 p.m.Why are the attacks on bigmama or any one with an educational handycap being allowed on this site. Shame on this Town when adults are ugly with each other and then claiming holier then thall ethics. It is a sad time in Victoria when some can bager a family and or persons behind a hidden name so as not to be recognized and think you can get away with it. Make a simple comment of the story and let everyone make theirs. Don't be a coward show your colors.H-mmm Colors is that the problem here ?
July 6, 2008 at 3:11 p.m.The case was probably dismissed because it was more trouble than it was worth.....Can you imagine this whole family in court???? Close your eyes....create a mental picture.
No one was actually seriously harmed. If you had a trial or a hearing involving these people you would have to have extra security....there would probably be several more fights, wailing and thrashing and pounding of chests; the cost would be substantial. Then you would have to arrest the family members that charged cursing the judge or kicked the baliff....Just let sleeping Tazmanian Devils lie.
July 6, 2008 at 2:57 p.m.:-) Dig.
Now to put this back on the level it was before some sanity was inserted, and in deference to Luminary's love of quotes;
"You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose. But it's not wise to pick your friend's nose."
Give 'em hell, Harry!
Ernie
July 6, 2008 at 2:24 p.m.ALS: I read the paper. Doesn't change my perspective. I believe I stated that they deemed there wasn't a case to pursue so we have to assume justice was served. Considering the events of the recent past that I've been involved in and that I'm pretty sure most of those in here are aware of, my vocalizing my suspicions about why the PD's case wasn't accepted by the GJ would likely come across as so much sour grapes.
Besides, I figure most of those intelligent enough to make that connection probably already have.
Ernie
July 6, 2008 at 2:17 p.m.Wow! New York had 9/11, Victoria has 4/11.
July 6, 2008 at 2:09 p.m.Spell-check only fixes spelling errors. No computer program exists that can fix stupid.
July 6, 2008 at 2:03 p.m.big momma please quit embarrassing yourself!
July 6, 2008 at 1:54 p.m.thanks for that intelligent information bigmomma...
next time someone asks me what does the clock say...?
I will reply... nothing... it doesn't talk!!!
WOW....I feel so much better now.
July 6, 2008 at 1:50 p.m.There's no retailation the truth is just being told if you can't handle it don't post your comments.
July 6, 2008 at 1:49 p.m.Luminary do you EVER speak your mind or do you just get your kicks from rambling quotes all day long? Don't get all butt hurt at the people standing behind the police doing their job.
July 6, 2008 at 1:49 p.m.texasmom the front page can't tell it all,because it doesn't talk. Your narrow headed it and closed mined. Just cause you get your bills paid with benefits it doesn't mean everyone does some people do have to work to make a life.
July 6, 2008 at 1:47 p.m.Texasmom: You took the words right out of my mouth!
Bigmomma: I am not buying any BBQ plates today. Go get a job!
July 6, 2008 at 1:45 p.m.bigmomma is on a roll...she is backfiring at every post against the family starting from the bottom... I suspect retaliation in 2 more minutes.......LOL Willie !!
July 6, 2008 at 1:44 p.m.Bigmomma the front page tells it all!
July 6, 2008 at 1:42 p.m.tstorm5 we don't want to know what kind of people you are just keep it to yourselves. The Cano's know what kind of people they are and they don't need no help from you.
July 6, 2008 at 1:41 p.m.big momma what the hell does a benefit have to do with topic.Is this the way this family gets their bills paid having benefits? just a question?
July 6, 2008 at 1:39 p.m.No, I actually agreed with sickandtired...It seems that family in the story needs to watch COPS more often so they will learn how NOT to act!!
July 6, 2008 at 1:38 p.m.Luminary... can't you come up with some famous quote in here?
Bigmomma: Stop typing! Really! You are just too funny! Bless your little heart! LOL!
July 6, 2008 at 1:37 p.m.Hey Willie ovbiously you don't know much about this family,because if they needed money they would have made a benefit to raise it just like everyone else. I think you talking out of your behind. Why don't you do your homework before you try to put someone down. We really don't care to know about your money problems.
July 6, 2008 at 1:36 p.m.Sick and Tired are you sure you are not a career liar it seems to me that you would have a lot of knowledge of how to be a liar. I think you see cops to much try to watch somethingelse to get your mentality straightened out. They don't need an Oscar all they need is to be truthful.
July 6, 2008 at 1:32 p.m.Sorry for my delayed response to your last comment bigmomma. I was laughing so hard at your last comment I had to walk away.
I understand that you and your family may be in need of some money right now. Making false accusations about police is certainly no way to fatten your wallet.
I am sure your goverment check will be in at the first of the month (or is it the last of the month)! Heck, I have no idea how that works!
July 6, 2008 at 1:28 p.m.LOL Nope, just someone who thinks along the same line as you do
July 6, 2008 at 1:25 p.m.just my thoughts...
are you my sister?
LOL
July 6, 2008 at 1:22 p.m.big momma i find it hard to believe you are in law enforcement. Sure your not related to the family!
July 6, 2008 at 1:20 p.m."bigmomma...what was all that you rambled in that post down there about anyway...I am referring to the first one...what the heck did you say???
I wondered how long it would take for one of the Villarreal's or Cano's to borrow someone's computer to post something related to this story!"
LOL at all of this. It's pretty obvious it's one of them since they got all bent out of shape about the Detrol comment. And notice they finally started using spell check towards the end? Nice touch.
July 6, 2008 at 1:20 p.m.bigmomma....being arrested or being in jail does not constitute "being in law enorcement"
ALS....most of us read the story correctly...the charges were against the family and it was dismissed..What's new?
GJ dismisses another case. We are shocked that now this family is crying out that they were all hurt by this!!
That's why we are all shocked because we know they are full of BS!
bigmomma...what was all that you rambled in that post down there about anyway...I am referring to the first one...what the heck did you say???
I wondered how long it would take for one of the Villarreal's or Cano's to borrow someone's computer to post something related to this story!
July 6, 2008 at 1:18 p.m.Believe it or not it just doesn't matter and it's not my job to enlighten you. If you want to know go get the training to enlighten yourself. That's why I did. So no one cares what you think/what you have to say. I dealt with people like you and it doesn't phase me a bit what you say/think to each it's own.
July 6, 2008 at 1:04 p.m.Ernie and all the other posters defending the PD's actions, please reread the article. The case presented to the Grand Jury was NOT against the police, it was against the family.
It reads "A grand jury last week rejected the charges of assaulting a public servant police filed against the family, District Attorney Stephen Tyler said. The grand jury said a disorderly conduct charge might have merit, but recommended Tyler not prosecute."
Obvioulsy, after hearing evidence and testimony from the PD the Grand Jury didn't think there was enough to indict any family member of assault on a peace officer. The PD was the one crying "foul", so I have to wonder what is the real story?
Also, the PD has been quick to release any and all things when it comes to their complaints against Tyler. Why is it that now they choose to not be so cooperative with the media? Ummmmmmm?????
July 6, 2008 at 1:02 p.m.Well BigMomma, first of all, cops are not "put into office" as you state. They are hired on to do their job just like everyone else. It's not an elected position. And I agree with Willie, I have a very hard time believing you are in law enforcement. They can usually spell and speak with a clear train of thought and I have seen neither of those come from you as of yet.
July 6, 2008 at 1:01 p.m.No nerve struck here. I would just like to read a semi intelligent blog if someone is going to post one.
Hmmmm...lets try proper punctuation for a start!
July 6, 2008 at 1:01 p.m.Mr. Ernie no one hit/beat the cops it was the other way around. Ya still don't get the picture of how stupid the cops are making everybody in this town look after we put them if office. How many more corrupted things do they need to do so everyone could get the entire picture.
July 6, 2008 at 12:59 p.m.I have a hard time believing you are in law enforcement bigmomma. So, if you know (think you know) both sides, please enlighten us.
July 6, 2008 at 12:55 p.m.Hey Willie what nerve of yours did I hit that made angry. Are you related to one of these people well it's to bad.
July 6, 2008 at 12:54 p.m."There is nothing more damaging to this country than police officers that violate a person's rights. Police officers lie on reports everyday. They have to cleverly word the report to make sure they will win in court. It has become the only way for the police to win against clever criminals. It's unfortunate that innocent people get abused in this process. The most important thing any citizen can do is spend time learning the penal code and their basic legal rights."
OR learn to act like a decent human being towards others and you don't have to worry about screaming police brutality when you are treated professionally!
And BigMomma...your grammar is stellar. Thanks for the laugh!
July 6, 2008 at 12:54 p.m.i too am sick and tired of people like ya making accusations you know nothing about and by the way I know the truth of both sides,because I'am in law enforcement and a ciliviain so don't make comments if you don't know what you are talking about. Thank You !
July 6, 2008 at 12:52 p.m.There is nothing more damaging to this country than police officers that violate a person's rights. Police officers lie on reports everyday. They have to cleverly word the report to make sure they will win in court. It has become the only way for the police to win against clever criminals. It's unfortunate that innocent people get abused in this process. The most important thing any citizen can do is spend time learning the penal code and their basic legal rights.
Maybe Victoria needs a CopWatch group to video tape police officers to make sure they are being professional.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copwatch
July 6, 2008 at 12:48 p.m.Hey bigmomma, before you spout off at the mouth, why don't you learn proper English!
What the heck did you just say anyway?
July 6, 2008 at 12:48 p.m.South Texas.. for once i am agreeing with you!
July 6, 2008 at 12:48 p.m.To whoever saids we are told scum you may be talking about your own family. Don't let everyone what kind of people you really are, and as for Detrol prescribe it to yourself. You don't know what you are talking about.
July 6, 2008 at 12:44 p.m."If one more person quotes a Bible verse on here I'm gonna puke"
Amen LOL
July 6, 2008 at 12:39 p.m.Wow Southtexas, for once I have to agree with you on that one!
July 6, 2008 at 12:39 p.m.Self Defense Statutes
(Texas Penal Code)
(c) The use of force to resist an arrest or search is justified:
(1) if, before the actor offers any resistance, the peace officer (or person acting at his direction) uses or attempts to use greater force than necessary to make the arrest or search; and
(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect himself against the peace officer's (or other person's) use or attempted use of greater force than necessary.
(d) The use of deadly force is not justified under this subchapter except as provided in Sections 9.32, 9.33, and 9.34.
Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.
July 6, 2008 at 12:37 p.m.Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, Sec. 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,1994.
Amended by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 190, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.
If one more person quotes a Bible verse on here I'm gonna puke!
July 6, 2008 at 12:33 p.m.If the police tell you to do something, get back, be quiet, or anything else, common sence should prevail. Or you pay the consequences.
July 6, 2008 at 12:32 p.m.Now that having been said....
I don't know this family and I wasn't there to witness the incident. That being the case, I have to assume the GJ heard enough of the evidence to determine there wasn't a case against the PD to pursue and that, therefore, justice was served in the matter.
Normally my tendency is to favor the PD and in this case I see no reason to stray from that inclination. I'm a little dismayed though to see so much and so strident emotion being tossed out with so little to base it on! Geeez, I really hope I don't get on the wrong side of some of you!
Ok, so Papa probably can't legally own a gun to protect himself with but as far as I'm aware, there's no law against him having a baseball bat. After all, the police do what they can to be proactive and prevent crime but they can't be everywhere all the time and the normal course of events is to be called during or after an event so 90% of the time their job is unfortunately REactive. Even if the "perps" are done and gone when they do get there they have to attempt to sort things out. As TStorm said, if they just drove away they'd be catching all billyhell for NOT doin their job.
And you have to remember too, these officers are arriving on a scene that, based on what little info they have, is already violent. Almost certainly they've not been faxed photos of the alleged victims on their drive over so they have no clue who are the attackers and who are the attackees.
Yelling, cursing and hitting the officers while berating them for not doing their job no sooner than they get out of the car is probably not the best way to ID yourself as the victim.... The officers' first duty is to secure the scene, protect the public and then to protect themselves. Sounds to me as though, in this case they had to secure the public just to protect themselves!
Once again, when the man with the badge and the gun says to sit down and shut up, one would be well advised to do just that.
Ernie
July 6, 2008 at 12:26 p.m.Luminary, first a quote from "The Devil's Dictionary" (Sukker Uffro) and now a biblical quote about Satan seeking to devour?
July 6, 2008 at 12:02 p.m.The two of you aren't related are ya?
And yes, Nun, I *know* which one you're related to. :-)
Ernie
"Now, Villarreals face becomes covered in tears when she says she has a big mouth."
"Were so close, he brings me leftovers, Juanita Cano said, teasing her son."
"Her nightgown was soaked. She lowered her eyes and her voice as she described her condition."
Oh please, give me a break. The Victoria Advocate does it again. We are supposed to feel sympathy for these poor people sitting at their plastic wrapped kitchen table with smiling photos of family around them.....My God it is almost like the Cleavers home.
The police could not walk off as some of the other posters have suggested. They may not like it but they have a duty to investigate the three unknown assailants that they were called there to protect this family from.
What do they get.....they get attacked. And there is no other way to put it. Running at and cursing the police that have come to help you is hardly the way to show appreciation or cooperation.
Every time I see a cop, I get scared or cry.
My guess is that that was the case before April 11th....only because of fear that the cops might be there to arrest someone for past crimes.
Victoria Advocate....you never cease to amaze me.
July 6, 2008 at 11:50 a.m.Luminary aka Willful Ignorance
For the wrath of God is revealed from Heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident within them.
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
For even though they knew God, they did not honur Him as God, or give thanks; but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the Glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and crawling creatures. Romans 1: 18-23
July 6, 2008 at 11:44 a.m.Whatever Luminary. As is usual for you, you just come here to pick people to pieces for their thoughts and opinions. Throw bible verses at me all day long but I stay firm in my belief that this family is nothing but trash. They spew vile and filth with every word they speak and I find it amusing that they are publicizing that the police put them in their place rightfully.
July 6, 2008 at 11:33 a.m.Actually...Luminary...
I know the family and heard their side....this was after ...of course...hearing it on the pole scanner first!!!
Good day to you sir! I shouldn't even give you the respect of calling you sir...oh well...it's Sunday!
July 6, 2008 at 11:20 a.m.Maybe Cole Cole and Easley will take their case! Oops i didn't say that! Well i have to agree the VA gave these ppl one days worth of front page fame! Way to go!
July 6, 2008 at 10:52 a.m.these ppl are just plain total scum! To the Cano daughter have your doctor prescribe you some Detrol LA for your overactive bladder!
don't think i could be a cop, not with people like this making accusations that could potentially hurt your career. i'm all for someone policing the cops, but when what you accuse didn't happen, you too should be held accountable
July 6, 2008 at 10:40 a.m.I give the Cano's a Oscar for such a fine acting job in the video. I love the masking tape around the center of the elder Cano's glasses....very classy. And the poor lady who said she cries when she see's the police, gimme a freakin break. You want some cheese with that whine? Get some education and quit blaming everyone for YOUR mistakes. Act like a human and not like some wild band of animals. You aren't going to get any sympathy here. "I'll take a lie detector." If you ever watch any reality cops show, every crook uses that line because they are such career liars, they probably would pass.
July 6, 2008 at 10:31 a.m."Havivoca... unless you know the family...
that would be impossible.
What happens when you walk away from a 3 year old...
they linger behind you...tugging at you...then starts the screaming and yelling because the tugging doesn't work...!!(Back to disturbing the peace) "
Gotta agree here. They would be on the news raising cane that their pleas for help were ignored or some other nonsense.
July 6, 2008 at 10:28 a.m.Havivoca... unless you know the family...
July 6, 2008 at 10:26 a.m.that would be impossible.
What happens when you walk away from a 3 year old...
they linger behind you...tugging at you...then starts the screaming and yelling because the tugging doesn't work...!!(Back to disturbing the peace)
Tstorm, did you ever hear of just walking away from a bunch of people screaming like 3-year-olds? They could have restored peace by walking away. I've been doing that since I was 6 years old. It works every time.
July 6, 2008 at 10:23 a.m.havivoca-They were trying to do their jobs and take reports and were verbally attacked. I'm sure if it was you, you would not have just walked away but have handled the situation before it escalated any more. It's easy to say what you WOULD HAVE done but their jobs are to maintain and restore peace and that's exactly what they did.
July 6, 2008 at 10:22 a.m.On the other hand--- The police were called to a scene for a legitimate reason. When they arrived, there was no sign of the assailants. They could have just said "It's all over, folks. We'll keep an eye on the place. Good night." Instead, the police reacted to comments made about them by the residents. Telling a cop that you don't think he is doing his job, or whatever, is not a crime. Or shouldn't be. The police could have walked away from the Canos with no more damage than a few curse words ringing in their ears.
July 6, 2008 at 10:10 a.m.Whoa!!! I didn't see the video earlier ...just read the story.I am shocked that DAD can read! I know MOM cannot.She tried to take advantage of me once by trying to get something for free and when I asked her to fill this out...She replied with she can not read or write!And that poor mommy of 5 is jut so sad that her daddy and her brother were getting beat up. Go pay your Habitat house payment and shut up!
July 6, 2008 at 10 a.m.Mr. Cano's record is deep and long . Some convictions were for possessing a weapon , resisting arrest, multiple drug charges, dwi , criminal trespas and mischief .
July 6, 2008 at 9:51 a.m.You know, after watching the video interview with these people, I'm even angrier that they are trying to get something out of this.... If they had acted like humans instead of wild animals, the police would not have had to subdue them! Now they want to cry about the treatment they received? Bull!!! I for one don't feel sorry for you! And from what I'm reading in this forum, neither do a lot of other people.
I'm embarassed that the Advocate even ran this story!
July 6, 2008 at 9:46 a.m.Anyone know what the tatoo means?
July 6, 2008 at 9:40 a.m.I'm going to use one of my grandmother's favorite expressions here: "Oh for pity's sake!"
So, the police respond to a 911 call about possible assault. They get there, the owner of the house happens to be a person with a history of violence... people are yelling, screaming, cursing.... the police tell them to calm down and they don't.... One person gets handcuffed and her brother, who is being examined by a paramedic, starts making a move behind his back.... well, what the hell do you think is gonna happen????
You know, this family has reason to feel embarassed.... they embarassed theirselves!
Quit whinning, learn your lesson, and act right.... don't expect the people of Victoria to feel sorry for you because you acted like a bunch of outlaws!
July 6, 2008 at 9:32 a.m.These people want $$$$. They figure with all the other goings on (i.e. Ratcliff, the indictment's, etc.) this is a chance for their "story" to be heard. I bet the old man cried and whined when he was turned down for a job because of his past attempted murder. Just like in this case, its not ever his or his families fault. It's always the fault of others. Way to go VA, you gave them what they wanted, their 15 minutes of fame.
July 6, 2008 at 9:30 a.m.justmythoughts and terminalmanager....
You got it straight!! This family just takes advantage of everything they can in this town! I could go on and on about the things some of them have done or lied about but this may not be the place! Seems they do a pretty good job on their own of making themselves look like idiots!!!
Wouldn't doubt it if the entire confrontation was drug related.
July 6, 2008 at 8:29 a.m.Oh please. Anyone who knows this family knows they are a joke. I have no doubt the police handled them in the best manner possible. The family account of that night is just a sad and pathetic attempt to get attention. Too bad its backfiring and making them look even more unstable. Great job VPD!
July 6, 2008 at 8:24 a.m.Does anybody really belive the Cano's story? I hope there isn't anybody out there that feels sorry for them. When the cops arrive at your house to save your behind, shut up, keep your hands to yourself, and let them do their job!! It is hard for me to belive a convicted attempted murder suspect when he says he did nothing wrong. maybe your kids were living by your example. If you hadn't tried to kill someone years ago, maybe this wouldn't have been an issue now. Its your lifestyle that caused this to happen Mr. Cano,change it and maybe things like this won't happen if you do. What happened on April 11? The brave men and women of VPD put their life on the line to help some idiots and did their job, that's what happened.
July 6, 2008 at 8:11 a.m.OH PLEASE!!!!!!!!
July 6, 2008 at 7:45 a.m.Anyone who knows this family at all knows that they are a bunch of LIARS! Every single one of them are violent and if they don't get their way they throw themself to the ground kicking and screaming until someone says "Okay you win..Get up Now!" I can not believe the Advocate even cared to listen to their story. Why did the mother call her daughter in the first place? Why not just call 911 and ask for help? That is the normal thing to do. By callin her daughter that just escalated the entire situation. They are all so full of BS it makes me sick!
July 6, 2008 at 1:28 a.m.It's funny how few people today don't know the rules Tstorm has just written. It is common sense. Cops want to go home at the end of their shift. Just Shut-up.
Don't you folks ever watch "Cops."
"I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6."
I am so feeling these people. Look for a write up coming soon about the Port Lavaca Police Department. Watch for it soon. It is a shame and a pity how officers abuse their power.
July 6, 2008 at 12:18 a.m.'An internal investigation cleared the officers of wrongdoing, Chief Bruce Ure said.'
Of course it did.
July 5, 2008 at 11:29 p.m.