Scout you are so right.. and that is why The best softball coach left Industrial Coach Glascock and went on to do girls softball at a college in North Texas.. that man was very intelligent in his sport.. but because of other reasons he left Industrial.. no $$ for the program ..no help... and now Boom everything new ..new field..for the girls.. If he would of just waited alittle longer but, I guess he wanted to follow his dream... he said, his Dream job to coach at a college level.. great person and great coach.. and you can't pass on your dream.

Well, it was either that you were lying or you were stupid. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. In the future, if you don't want people to prove you wrong, don't state assumptions that are incorrect.
Tis far better to remain silent and have people think you a fool; than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Just for the record Bundy, if I were to sit down and list my accomplishments at the end of the week and “Posted on the Advocate” sat near the top, I think I would have to seriously question what my priorities in life were.

Argue with facts huh? After reading some of your other posts it’s fairly obvious that you would only recognize a fact if it came up and bit you on the a$$. And since I’m not willing to take a bite you are just going to have to keep calling me a liar. Considering the source it doesn’t really bother me. And the comment about trying to “inspire” dialogue, Wow, talk about a narcissist.

Scout, although I sometimes don’t agree with your summations, I do see your point concerning the current state of affairs here. Taking an aggressive approach will only yield negative results though. We know that the AD reports to Mr. Moore, and Mr. Moore reports to the board. I’m hopeful that an approach utilizing rational thought can prevail, but only if done respectfully and by going through the right channels, (unless you are dealing w/blundy).

At first glance some of the posts here seem to carry a great deal of angst for the current AD. Keep in mind that some comments may be driven by personal experiences. After all, at the end of the day it’s all about our kids (AND IT SHOULD BE). As a community we should expect the same level of parental involvement when it comes to academics as well.

I sounds like you have kids or close relatives involved in girls athletics at MHS. If so I wish you luck in getting those things that are lacking corrected.

Where did KOBA go? Oh...must be tired of arguing against facts.

The AD / Football HC is outdated for a 5A school. You're either one or the other.

TexasHuck-- Coach Tuck moved to the Houston area. I hated to see him leave. He really did a good job with the girls and they connected well. He was actually willing to put in time to help them improve. I saw several come back games when they were ready to give up. Coach Lara is also a great coach. Goliad is lucky to have him. I know we sure miss them both. Have you ever thought about running for a school board seat? We could surely use someone different that thinks about the kids and supports them.

u guys left out the gas variable and late night drive homes. negative perks to me. CHS has a quality 3 sport coach. wow!
not 1 coach will challenge a AD for fear of retaliation. In fact it makes a better team if diversity can be  expressed in verbal opinion.   To a limit though. Why would a AD fear a vocal head coach?
 Here is 1. How many kids knew of the heart monitor test for jh kids this year?!?!?! The trainers are informing some student atheltes who signed up but how about the ones who try out at the last second and get hurt?!?!? I still cant find it where its mandatory. The program has been there since early summer to implement but fb got in the way again. doesnt visd have 2 a.d's???

Finally someone with a brain! Does this mean that you are not buying the line that Stewart left because of higher pay at Calhoun? This is the kind of thought I wanted to inspire on this topic. WHY is the question we should be asking...and not answering it with misinformation.
Nice post Scout!!

fellas or ladies,
stewart didnt get help. who did softball class when he left for fb games?? who did fungo when stewart was in fb? Then look at baseball. 3-4 coaches and softabll has 1? 1. One. Uno. Is that fair? equal?

ALL girls programs have NO voice on matters! Give me a name. Come on Bennie!

But stipends are paid. football coaches get a higher stipend. Ask Finley. I heard they increased them in VISD this yr. but for who?

I wonder why a head college softball coach would move down to 5A? Football stipends, imo! I strongly believe that ALL SPORTS SHOULD HAVE QUALITY HEAD COACHES. They should be involved in thier sport even in the off season. Its gotta bite the programs when the schools split and we have no quality coaches. The x/c and track teams dont have a visible head coach. They ran jv last yr. NO VARSITY TEAM. OH MY! To busy doing fb. 5A folks. We have the numbers.

KOBA, I can see this is going to be more difficult than I originally anticipated. You seem to have difficulty going from hither to yon without some assistance.
So...here we go again:
This is the link for the OLD PAY SCHEDULE. For some reason, VISD's site has not been updated with the new figures.
http://www.visd.com/HR/PDFs/2007-2008...

Here is the link to the board meeting notes where a salary increase of $1,500 was accepted. This means you add $1,500 to each figure on the previous schedule.
http://www.visd.com/board/notes/2008_...

Now, YOU were the one who said Stewart graduated high school in the 70's. Do you remember that? I believe he took over the head baseball coaching position from Tripson for the 88-89 season. One would suspect that he didn't wait around 12-15 years after high school, then get into coaching, and immediately land a head coaching job at a 5A high school. So I would venture to say Stewart has at least 24 years' experience. If this is the case, he would have taken a cut in pay to go to Calhoun.
BTW, if you will notice on the board meeting minutes page, the stipends that are listed are directly in line with those listed on the Calhoun website.
So once again you are incorrect, and you have attempted to mislead everyone.
Tell me another lie.

I worked at BISD and the stipends there run from 1000.00 and up that is a one time pay per year and if I remember correctly you get 1000.00 per sport you coach... so if you do 3 ..it can be pretty good... but, lots of work though.

Bundy, You might want to look at your links again. You seem to be a year off on the VISD amounts you reference (i.e.- the 23 year amount you show is actually for 24 years etc.). Plus the 25 year VISD amount you quote is wrong as well. Just going by your links here, the pay for 25 years of experience is $160 a year more in VISD than Calhoun, WOW that would make me stay.

I can't see my original statement right now, however I believe I mentioned Coach Stewarts 20+ years experience. I stopped my teacher pay comparison at 22 years since that is all that the CCISD pay scale showed. Now that may be due to CCISD having a max set at that amount, I don't know but you probably do.

As far as the stipends go there is no practical way for me to prove it to you since you most likely would demand a signed affidavit. If you really want the proof call both athletic departments. This is public record information. I'm sure once you find out your going to share it for all to see.

In the grand scheme of things having dialogue with you isn't on my list of things I need to do. So if you don't mind I'm going to get back to the Olympics, something that does really matter to me. Go USA, and by the way, Go Vipers!

In your own words:
"unless Coach Stewart has his doctorate, he will earn more at Calhoun just for the teaching part of his assignment."
Simply not true.

Go back and read your reply post. While you mentioned stipends, you also discredited the fact that VISD pays 23+ year teachers more than Calhoun. I caught you on it, so now you want to make it personal. The fact is that you were at least half wrong. You are probably completely wrong, but I don't have the evidence to support that. Do you have any evidence that you are correct?

So where is your proof that Calhoun pays a significantly higher coaching stipend than VISD? The reason I didn't mention it is because I can't find any data on it. Can you?
It is not about taking myself seriously. It is about not allowing people to tell lies. or make false accusations.
I also typed that last part very s l o w l y.

Bundy, you take yourself way too seriously. I noticed you failed to mention the rest of the compensation package for a teacher that also coaches. In case you didn't know they are called "Stipends", (I typed that last word real slow so you could keep up this time). And no, that amount is not included in the pay scales you provided. Now add that amount and guess what?

And for the record, your personal regard for the level of my intellect just won't be keeping me up at night.

I know exactly who Wayne Stewart is, thank you very much. I went and did it again. I gave you way too much credit. I thought you were smarter than you are showing me you are.
So here we go, I will spell it out for you.
Stewart has at least 22 years of experience. Can we agree on that? If so:
22 years: MHS=$50,580 CCISD=$51,470
23 years: MHS=$51,130 CCISD=$51,470
24 years: MHS=$51,630 CCISD=$51,470
25 years: MHS=$51,930 CCISD=%51,470
So...only if he has less than 24 years experience would he receive a pay increase by moving to Port Lavaca. Even at 22 years, the increase would only be $890/year, or $74.17/month. Do you REALLY think he would have left a program that is wildly successful and that he built for that? How much would it help his retirement? That was the basis of your claim. If his highest 3 years are used to calculate his retirement, then he will be LOSING money by moving! Kind of shoots your theory down, wouldn't you say? I knew you would come back at me with the starting salary thing. You should try to be a little less predictable.
Once again, we should be asking the REAL reason why he left. He is nowhere near the first, and pay has never been an issue from those I've spoken with.
Now, what do you say to that?

Actually Bundy, I thought the thread was about Coach Wayne Stewart. Former standout catcher for Stroman in the mid 70's and former head baseball coach at VHS when it existed and most recently head softball coach at MHS.

Although Coach Stewart would probably like to go back to a time when he could be considered an entry level educator, the truth is we just can't turn back time. Hopefully you won't dispute the "turn back time" thing I just mentioned.

Anyway, I believe Coach Stewart's experience is in the 20+ years neighborhood. Using the convenient links you provided it appears that unless Coach Stewart has his doctorate, he will earn more at Calhoun just for the teaching part of his assignment. Now consider the stipends that coaches earn, (I did say earn because they put in extremely long hours, and have to deal with people like... well, nevermind) and the range goes up.

Do you really think coach Stewart would have left VISD at this point in his career to take a pay cut? It sounds more to me like you have some conspiracy theory conjured up.

KOBA, you are absolutely wrong about pay differences between VISD and CCISD. I guess you are one of the many on this site that thinks saying something automatically makes it true.
http://www.calcoisd.org/index.php?opt...

http://www.visd.com/board/notes/2008_...

I think we should all be asking the question of why Stewart quit.

why would coach whit. want to coach in victoria? yall do not support yalls athletic program, thats evident by the empty seats in yalls stadium friday nights. heck, yall cant even agree on how many high schools should be in the town. 1 or 2? ........the town of victoria itself has to have one of the highest crime rates per capa in the state of texas.

calhoun county is not perfect, by any stretch of the imagination, but we have a very good and effective schools system. kids that start high school in calhoun county more often than not actually finish high school as opposed ot dropping out. our test scores are good , the school just built a new athletic facility for coach whit. new weight room, locker room ect.....have yall seen "champions hill" yet? ;)...... the community supports all the programs in calhoun high school, be it football, basketball, softball, baseball, track, volleyball, powerlifting, UIL academic events (won state in that also).......

koba-- you mentioned a previoius post but yet you are unware of the author. lol.
look ay my post. i said best wishes. why is that wrong?
wooohooo--have her apply.

Scout/Superdad I'm a little confused by your apparent showing of support for Coach Stewart. I can't recall which one of you made the statement during the season that he should be replaced by a St. Joe coach named "Walter". Or how he was making the wrong decisions regarding which players took the field. Glad to see the about face.

"where is coach Torres?" Really Scout? If you mean the former asst. softball coach why don't you contact some of her former collegues at Howell. They would probably be able to tell you where she is. But I think you already know.

Here's my opinion on why coach Stewart moved on. He is nearing retirement age. An educators retirement is based on highest salary for a 3 year period. Do the math, Calhoun just pays better than VISD and they do have a great thing going on right now. Plus I believe coach Stewart lives in Cape Caranchua. With $4 gas that alone would be incentive enough for a lot of people.

SuperDad; Coach Stewart won't return and MHS won't be able to hire Coach Whitaker from Calhoun. Calhoun does some things right. They support their staff and the staff does their job. Teachers made sure that athletic boys and girls got their work done in tutorials or in class, and that they passed the courses. Not because we "passed" them but because they knew the material. Calhoun had 98% passing in 11th grade Social Studies on the TAKS, 85% passing the TAKS in 11th grade Science. MHS only had 71% pass 11th Grade TAKS in Science (and they thought that was just outstanding, lol). What does that tell you?
Scout, why don't you apply for the job at MHS?  If you have a college education, you can get it.   My daughter is working on her second year of college and decided to stay this year in Victoria to use up her scholarship at VC.  If they were desperate, she wants a job.  They could probably get her to work with the girls.  At least she knows how to train the girls.  She's very loud and bossy, lol.  Just a thought.
They probably ought to get the 9th grade coach (the one from Edna, originally) to come up to varsity to coach the girls.  That's the best choice.  But....  I think they will get the HS Asst. Principal to fill in until one is hired.  Hinton.   That's jmho.

where is coach Torres? Stewart and her did well it seemed? The girls were united. Then it collapsed? imo.

either way they need 2 spots and the A.D. is gonna have his hands full if the spots are not filled before school. starts, imo.

I thought Coach Tuck was going to MHS to do the girls softball program...Coach Lara would of been great too... he coaches at Goliad..or even Coach Englehart she was at Cuero I dont think she is there anymore ...great coaches..

bundy--- he is back 1 more yr.

Title IX issues??? See this section under Title 34 ----§ 106.41 Athletics. The following link should provide some information that might be of use to you:
http://www.ed.gov/policy/rights/reg/o...
I KNOW. IT'S DISCOVERY FOR KLIMIST AND CAIN. IT GIVES THE 2 SOMETHING TO DO ON SLOW DAYS.

I think Jackson is gone now too. Am I wrong?
Everyone needs to remember the words of Bob Moore before he hired Finley. Remember the talk about how he would not allow the new AD to concentrate only on football? How he wanted all of the sports to be priority?
We can all dislike Finley, but a leopard can't change its spots. Our anger should be directed at Bob Moore, and your school board member, since they are all in love with him.

Coach Stewart best wishes to you!

We all know the program didn't get any help. How do you run a program when you are doing fb issues. No assistant to help in softball class . Where did the girls go when you traveled? No ass't coach till a principal stepped in. A principal.

Baseball has what 4 guys sitting on a bucket. Poor record as to softball.

Bundy you left out Coach Escalona, Jackson and Smith as leftovers.

here is what will happen:
finley needs to hire 2 softball coaches. 1 has to take Stewart's role in fb! Both will be men so to help w/ fb. The males won't stand up to him on issues.

Parents w/ girls- do you see a trend. Girls are not a priority. If you people(softball parents) dont demand what you should recieve then don't complain after the season.

So he hires a bucket sitting baseball coach to help. What? both sports use a bat and a ball. lol.

I hear Finley made all his JH athletic cooridnators men so they follow his step.

Girls good luck!

Are there any leftovers from the VHS days, or was Stewart the last one? Finley must not like winners.

I wish someone would come in here with some inside info. You sure are right about the Calhoun programs. That guy has done a phenomenal job. How bad is it going to be when the 2 new schools are placed in the same district with Calhoun, and the Sandcrabs wax them both?

of course it was something! would a coach leave after going back-to-back and then possibly winning at least 2 more in a row? I don't think so.

What ever happen....I wish him and his family luck in "booming" Port Lavaca and when Finely bombs out here then lets hire AD Withaker(msp) from the 'crabs. He has turned things around over there in a hurry

Does anyone know what happened here? I hope he left because he wanted to, and wasn't pushed out. From everything I've heard, he was doing a great job. Looks like another opportunity for Finley to hire an extra football coach to fill a spot.