Vdore will tell you and I quote "I AM good friends with Tim Dehlaney and he will do anything i ask him to"

Excuse me Vdore, but you are wrong again, seems like you have a hard time with the truth, four of your filthy blogs WERE removed from the other discussion yesterday when it was blocked, you don't have to lie to cover it...and don't worry about my "long" lunch again, I am the boss, I can take a long lunch if I choose....

Delusional and bitter. Its not hard to see who you are.

 teaching should be a highly respected position. VISD should hold you accountable for your actions! You are immoral and a waste of tax dollars. Someone should fill your shoes!

Since I'm "suppose" to be teaching. Are you not suppose to be selling ads?

vdore the only idiot is you. Are you drinking again?? Probably drunk as I expected.

Same subject, same idiots and I forgot delusional conspiracy theorist.

Vdore, I can see that you are still giving your Vdore title a bad name along with yourself! You display such bad character and lack any ethics! Shame on you. Go back to what you are supposed to be doing.. Aren't you supposed to be teaching school students right now??? Does your husband allow you to discredit yourself this way?? Keep it up, because you represent him in a Big Way and you are a very bad reflection!! No class what so ever! Think again, sweetie, Sad to say but you have no power!!! Money cant buy self respect and honesty!

Always back to the SAME subject with the SAME idiots but with Different names. Do you really think we are as stupid as you to think that all of those fanatic zealots who hate the drill team have just gone away? Smidge you are the only one who didn’t get the memo.
Every one of my blogs are still intact and yes, I have the power to have you ALL deleted!
I GOT THE POWER!
HAHAHA

hey robert, I sure would like to hear more about the nasty incident that occured at the store. seems interesting!

I agree Robert, it is a bad display of character..and not to mention a lack of morals and ethics as a school teacher.

No mystery really, just common sense, when the smoke clears you can see the "special interest" and the "hidden agendas".

and the mystery grows !!

Go Figure!!

yes, vdore does stand for Victoriadore, it is on the directors liscense plate as well

does vdore stand for victoriadore? and if so...man is she representing them...wow!

and also...Vdore caused the other blog to be blocked because of all the vile and arrogant things she was saying about Jack and a mingo person, and she seemed to be promoting drinking alcohol and drunk at the school, that was really nasty and uncalled for...almost all her filthy blogs were removed..

Robert, as far as your questions go, yes, they did violate UIL rules on the practicing, they also held "secret practices" as not to get the director in trouble again, I'm not sure where all their fundraising money goes to, but now they say they are in the hole by several thousand dollars, I hope it's not going toward the campaign, I'm not sure what they did with it, and audits, I don't really think they have been audited according to certain people who are on that team...and yes, they do serve alcohol at their bull riding event, I am again not sure how that all works but they do. It seems it needs to be investigated more deeply as something doesn't seem right in all this.

So does the drill team violate UIL rules when it comes to practicing ?

How about all their fund raising, where does all the money go ?

Who audits the books ?

Is it true the drill team sells beer at their bull riding fund raiser ?

Wanna know why,I'll tell ya why....
It was locked because when a poster posts something that is negative towards the drill team or the Jaynes's that is considered harassment instead of voicing your own opinion according to the VA....
They locked the other forum (MTV) a month back only because they didn't like a few posters posts about some legit information about the drill team....
If you go back to todays forum that is now locked you will see where vdores post "JACKOFFMANIAC" is still there but yet mine where I stated vdore "VWHORE" has been removed......HMM
So,as you can see MINGOMANIAC being attacked on the forum is OK(even though I haven't seen her post on here in a while) but if it's VDORE being attacked,it's wrong.Any Questions?

Now I'm curious, why was the other thread locked ???

Hmm,the other forum about Keeling and Jaynes will not let me comment.Has the forum been blocked or closed on that article,anyone know?

 
168 comments on an article that was in the VA 12 days ago. Lord hep us all!!
Make that 169!

hey robert I agree that passing out bumper stickers and election materials in that way  is a Big NO NO.  Wonder if it has been reported???But with the character of the campaign and its followers that does not surprise me one bit! This breed of people have a tendency to break and ignore rules and get away with it.

Passing out election material like that is a big no no.Wonder if anyone wants to report it or follow up on it ?

I need to also apologize, I forgot to vote Sat, this whole thing should have already been settled.I heard about one candidate being very nasty at a local store, so that decided my vote. It was a first hand account from the sales person.

I regret not being the vote that knocked them out of the race.

Thats how this drill team runs the campaign. They need every vote possible so they resort to tacky begging and crying!! They are used to crying until they get what they want! Ha, Guess it didn't work with MTV either!

Can’t we all just get along! Time to go back to the Gay pride event this Sat blog where everyone just loves one another.
IF 581 Victoriadore parents want Charlie Jaynes in office, then that is what democracy is. Seems like a lack of common sense to think that out of 75 some odd girls that somehow, DJ forced not only their parents, but created extra parents to come up with 581??? WE Vote in this country. The Keeling camp wants to continually bring the drill team into this campaign.
All we need is LOVE! Dat da da da

Wow, this is my first time reading this and I'm amazed at how personal people can get...I can't vote in this race, but I have 3 children in VISD. I know both Tammy Keeling and Charlie Jaynes and have a lot of personal respect for both. I just find myself agreeing with Ms. Keeling on the issues, I think our school district is going through some long overdue changes and Ms. Keeling has been a part of bringing these changes about along with our Superintendend, other board members, and most importantly, our community. The whole consolidation mess (brought on in part thanks to Bernard Klimist) needed to be fixed. If the "bickering" Dr. Jaynes wants to stop means that he would go along with everything Mr Klimist says (because of the obvious connection) I don't feel like we should be going backward by filling our schoolboard with yes men (or women) who will go along with whatever he says. I am very concerned about the obvious special interest that Dr. jaynes has in the whole Drill Team mess. First Victoriadore name drama, then the MTV drama, why is it that you don't see any other school club or booster club on the front page of the newspaper crying about every little issue? I just don't get it...These young ladies do a wonderful job and if their parents have that much time and the money to invest into a high school extracurricular activity their children are involved in, more power to them. The obvious ferver with which they have been campaigning for CHarlie Jaynes makes it obvious to anyone with a little common sense how badly they want him on the school board. They campaign for him during school sponsored events, using booster club funds, parades...I have to say this is the most campaigning I've ever seen for a small town school board seat.
My concern is: with CHarlie Jaynes on the school board, where does that leave the rest of our children who are students in VISD and work just as hard, but just don't care to dance that much? I would like to have people on the school board who are concerned and best equipped to make decisions about our childrens education, our school system as a whole, not only with one small segment of the student population. No disrespect to Dr. Jaynes intended, but I think Ms. Keeling, whose children do attend VISD, is the right person for the job. I'm just not sure why people who support Jaynes have to act like they hate Keeling, what's the personal vendetta all about? ANd why are people so hateful to each other? You guys don't even know each other?

smidge, what does loud and obnixous kids at IHOP have to do with the election?
I’m just reel glad yu don’t be edumucaten them thar chillens yoself in yo home.
My gosh how do you ever count money to pay the bill at IHOP!

oh fercryinoutloud...

I haven't kept up with all the issues surrounding this school board thing but unless I missed something pertinent, Mrs. Keeling isn't backpedalling on the issue of Jaynes voting on salaries. She explained, quite succinctly I think, that while it is NOT illegal for SB members to vote on salaries when a family member would be affected, it *IS* the VISD SB policy that such members voluntarily abstain from doing so. Whether it's written down somewhere or just observed out of propriety is hardly relevant. Seems to me the practice shows more than a little good sense on the part of the current SB members.

The only reason the matter would be relevant in the event Dr. Jaynes is elected would be if he chooses to exercise his *legal* right to vote in such a case and circumvent what is, I assume, VISD's currently *voluntary* practice.

Ernie

I thought for sure that ms. keeling said that jaynes could not vote on 80 per cent of the budget?? didn't she say that. didn't she quote some policy to prove her point>> What happened? She found out she was wrong and then she cried conflict of interest and ethics. I heard that the board members with relatives in the district thought they could not vote. the whole board thought they couldn't vote, so for all these years they didn't understand what was in their own ppolicy guidelines. Now they understnad and they are trying to say that a bassackwards practice they have been doing is right...and we're gonna continue it because if you don't then you are unethical. that makes no sense whatever. They have been continually practicing something that is not in policy and want to continue with it. why don't they just change the policy? Why all of a sudden the gbig intrest in ethics and conflicts. is it because the first plan to undermine Jaynes backfired so this is the back-up plan to undermine him. Can keeling not stick to the points like the bond and discipline and other important issues. My gosh, this issue comes up how many times...i'm sure not many..it seems really trivial and the issue of ethics and conflict are trivial too..so he won't vote on salaries...big deal...

Please let the Jaynes people have their parade. they don't need to be trashed because they want to have a parade. And stop calling their signs litter...if their signs are litter..then all the other campaign signs are litter. Having out 2 signs or 200 makes no difference. If Jaynes can get his family, the drill team, his office staff...whoever to heolp him..so what...that's good campaign strategy.

Keeling and jaynes tied. That's got to be a slap in the face to keeling. She is the incumbent...had the inside track..even the board president wrote a letter to the editor in support of keeling and she couldn't win the election. Jaynes must be doing something right..I thought it would be a landslide for keeling. Perhaps people read thise blogs and read all the negative comments regarding teh jaynes family. I have turned into a jaynes fan because he has been trashed so much i just figured I would root for the underdog...i guess more people think like me.

Yes I am for a dress code & it should be enforced by the teachers sending the offenders to the office to call their parent to bring them proper clothing. While the student is waiting or if parents aren't available they are sent to ISS. Punish the parents & kids will fall in line as it is the parents who can control the kids if they so choose. I don't think it should take 600 people to decide....let the powers that be choose school color uniforms.

Well lets see, you demand to know my thoughts, yet you don't offer anything besides DJ, dance team, grandkids, etc....so please don't accuse me of behaving badly when you are not offering anything but "personal grudge" issues.

Why the sarcasim? I asked you your opinions and you were kind enough to answer. I didn't ask for a bio and quite frankly, I don't see how you could read that into my questions. My intent is to turn this into a constructive exchange of views and ideas, but it seems you think it is attack on your person.

Smidgeon...Whos Farrah & why should I be impressed? And the last time I checked people with "cajun dialects" were still capable of proper spelling. I have family who also speak with cajun tongues & the only reason they can't spell is because they were educated in Louisiana.

Let's see....consolidation was a huge mistake & the kids & teachers are paying the price. The schools are FUBAR & I feel for the teachers & parents that have to deal with it. I was not for the building of new schools but am for splitting the town up the way they are, it is an even split & will please the demographic gods. Being that Dr. Jaynes is a MD I don't think him voting on pay issues is a big deal as he & his wife don't really need the money. Unless he is proposing for all coaches make 6 figures, I am sure he will be fair & unbiased. As he lives his day to day life by a code of ethics I am sure he will be able to abide by that same code as a School Board member. Since he is in charge of a successful business I would trust his business sense. I am sorry but in a city the size of Victoria you will be hard pressed to find anyone that does not have some sort of conflict of interest. I am sure he is not going to make any decision that would affect his business negatively. As far as if, or how I voted, once again that is noneya. I was neutral to the candidates until Mrs. Keeling & her supporters showed up here slandering people & posting misinformation. As far as I know Dr. Jaynes has yet to utter a negative word about Mrs. Keeling. Even his supporters have been civil. I guess vdore was correct as you people keep singling me out & I have not said all that much.

BTW it was JOAT that called me those names Yet I did not reciprocate, so before you chastise me for speaking look at yourselves as I am not the only person here saying y'all are not playing well with others.

Hope that answers enough of your questions...if you give me a minute I will type up a bio to submit for your approval.

I am amazed at the smut and sarcasm on this blog. Keeling supporters can sure dish out a lot of meanness, but they don't seem to be able to take any. Even when they are explained about the truth, like MTV, Jayne's motives, drill team, they continue to bring up the same issues. Hard heads I guess. I read on another post that if someone talkes negative about Mr. keeling, then they are trashing all attorney's. If we follow that line of thinking, then every teacher and director in Victoria and beyond should be offended, and no teachers, directors or coaches should vote for ms. keeling...because ya'll have definitely trashed DJ jaynes and her son-in law...and they are not even running. Is it not possible to stick to the issues without calling names and getting the family members involved. That is childish, immature and shows to me that you keeling supporter can find no negatives with dr. jaynes or his campaign so you have to resort to hurting him in the next closest area....his family. That is low....really low....but if you are going to talk about the Jaynes familyk, you must know that the keeling family is not off limits..

Stick to the points of the campaign if you can. When you don't, you begin to sound petty, trivial, and really infantile.

Warmore: I apologize for the response, but I honestly thought you were being sarcastic in your’s. Honest mistake. Since you now verify that it was sincere, I will take your word for it. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

VBB: What the heck are you talking about. I have never called anyone a dumbxxx or cursed you. In the absence of discussing any real issues you continue to make this a forum for deflection. Also, thanks for not sharing your business associations, because that too would not be relevant to the issue at hand.
- How do you feel about the $9 million proposed price tag for the events auditorium? Did you know that was on the table when you voted for the bond issuance (assuming you did so)?
- Legally, it has been reported that Dr Jaynes could vote on budget items related to salaries? Do you think he should do so and break a long standing precedent as practiced by other board trustees in similar circumstances? Do you think he should make his intentions public prior to his re-election bid?
- Do you think Ms. DeLa Santos should break her standing position of recusing herself of the same?
- Do you support changing the dress code? How would you hold teachers and administrators accountable for enforcement of such?
- If you are a Victorian by birth then you should know the history of the past superintendents and trustees who held office. How do you feel about the job that the superintendent is doing? Are you satisfied with the direction our system is going? If not, what would you like to see done differently?
- Do you agree with the proposed lines and school designations throughout the city? If so, why? If not why?
- Why do you think your candidate is better qualified to accomplish the things you think are important?

I respect your “right” to say what you want, but please say something of substance.

Let me add to my previous post....I said nothing rude about her husband just his profession....why are you all getting all bent out of shape? I said nothing when you called me a dumbass & whatever that other word was that was edited for content or as I like to say..expletive deleted. I have not cursed at you people nor have I slandered Mrs. Keeling, just questioned her judgement.

Hey VBB & Warmore, Let me clear some things up for you:
Jackoffalltrades=Mingo!
hadenough=Trixie who I think is her daughter
They still have some grandiose vdgate to unveil in June! They always back each other up in their ridiculous statements. It's THEM! Their BAAACK!
Tell us all the truth "ladies", because I KNOW you can't handle it. Are you two hiding behind new user names?
HAHAHA!

Whatareu4
I admitted my mistake when I was informed of all the facts. I could have however just called it a "misimpression" and continued to argue the point, give the perception that I was right, grab any argument to justify my statements, and get 4 or 5 others to argue the point with me..... But I didn't...I apologized and it was received with sarcasm. Just as I expected...

She has not handled herself in a dignified manner. I have said it before, now I am repeating it for the group in the back. Pay attention!

Y'all attack DJ & the kids with glee so why can't I throw in a lawyer comment? Please they have thicker skin than most. You also know nothing about my associations with him, them or anyone else & I am not divulging as it is noneya. As long as y'all are trashing anyone & everyone (even the grandkids) then I have the right to say what I will.

I've stayed out of this 'til now - and intend to keep it that way - but have a question. Is Ms. Keeling's husband one Lee Keeling of Walker, Keeling and Carroll?

Ernie

VBB: I would be careful in your sweeping statements questioning the character of attorneys. I would imagine that an attorney or two voted for Dr. Jaynes and now you want to alienate the profession? Not a smart move. All it takes is one hanging shad and the celebration party will have to be cancelled (again).

Are you writing because you have nothing else to do or do you just like seeing your stuff on these threads? If you start to crawfish and say your comments aren’t about all lawyers, then you must mean Mr Keeling, only. Have you ever met Mr Keeling? Do you know what type of law he practices (hurry go get your yellow pages)? Better yet, do you know the man’s character? I do, and I’m sure many of the 581 Jaynes supporters that know him also, would agree that he is a man of high moral character that represents his profession as highly as Dr Jaynes does his. Stick to the issues and your statements would carry much more weight. It's time to move past these petty barbs and get real answers to real questions.

Hey Victorianbybirth, In regards to your comment "So Mrs. Keeling did pop in here to clear a few things up & she did not urge her supporters to behave in a civil manner, just told them to "go back to it"......doesn't say a whole lot about her character" but then again she's married to a lawyer, guess I should've understood she didn't have one to begin with.
Mrs. Keeling has been working hard day after day on campaign issues and has made this blog a site to inform others about her intentions and campaign agenda. Where has Charlie Jaynes been? I doubt that he has even lifted a finger when it comes his campaign. Why should he? He has every drill team parent and member working for him! And its ironic that you bring up "character" and "civil manner" So do you think that littering our city, sending drill team members door to door, and organizing a ridiculous parade down Navarro is civil??
And next you want to bring up her spouse?? Mr. Keeling is a respectable and honorable man so leave him out of this!
Atleast Tami Keeling isn't running for school board because her husband will get something out of it....unlike Charlie's wife Dj who is just thinking about her little special interests! It seems that you are ignorant to the reality issues of the campaign and how money and conflicts of interest play a big role!

Hey Victoriabybirth, these comments posted were comments of truth so if you can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen!!

So Mrs. Keeling did pop in here to clear a few things up & she did not urge her supporters to behave in a civil manner, just told them to "go back to it"......doesn't say a whole lot about her character, but then again she's married to a lawyer, guess I should've understood she didn't have one to begin with.

I feel that Dr. Charles Jaynes would be an asset to the VISD board, he would be fair and just in all propositions and situations. He has a right to seek a position on the school board like any other citizen. There have been other members of the school board that have had relatives in the district and it was not a big deal for them. Does Tammi feel threaten that Dr. Charles Jaynes is running in the race against her. Dr. Jaynes will be just as fair and loyal to the citizens and the students as any other board member. Dr. Jaynes may even be a better member than some of the present and past board members. Because D.J. is a teacher for the district should have no impact on how loyal Dr. Jaynes will be for the citizens and students of VISD. I am glad to see Dr. Jaynes take on the challenge of the VISD school board. I am a retired teacher from this district and have seen some of the worst board members, and some of the best board members. Dr. Jaynes will definitely be good for the school board. I personally want to wish you good luck, and hope that you do come out on top and prove to those who have little faith that you will be a dedicated board member.

Verification: I am currently the Treasurer for the boy’s basketball booster club and I was asked to verify something posted on this thread. We did have a problem one night with the props being on stage and blocking our ability to run our concession stand and access our storage closets. In fact, I got an ear full from the Girl’s Booster club concerning the same. I told everyone I would handle the situation and to keep a cooler head. I decided to call a good friend of mine knowing he is a drill team dad and he and I worked out a solution that worked for all involved. Problem solved. At no time did Ms. Keeling get involved in the situation. I appreciate whatareyou4 for not publishing my name, however I find it important to verify his/her statements.  I would also like to add that at no time during the year did the boster club ask Tami, nor did she offer to use her postion as a school board trustee to gain benefit for our organization.  I support Tami and wish her good luck in this election.
Roger A. Hobbs

Go Vote!

Here’s the problem I have. I certainly respect the right for the drill team to get behind Dr. Jaynes. Heck, it would be really weird if they didn’t. But to work the drill team parents and members into frenzy about false reports concerning Ms. Keeling is just wrong. Especially, after the facts were shared with them, but they continued to ignore and pass them off as fact. Apologizing on Election Day is a little too convenient.

Thinksalot - I heard the ad and she didn't say that he'd be pressured. What she said is a fact: board members whose family members work for the district currently do abstain (and they have for years abstained) from voting on salaries and benefits for the classification of employees to which their family member belongs. I don't think there's any logical inconsistency with that; it's clearly different than your examples about students or city council members and streets.

It IS like your example of Senators voting themselves a pay raise, though. The thing that makes you (and all us, probably) uncomfortable about that is precisely what is addressed by the board's current practice - the appearance of a conflict. I'm glad that other board members have been able to see that. I am bothered that Jaynes may not.

whatareu4

Thanks for setting me straight....my apologies... I guess I too, am guilty of putting out false information.

Don’t you people sleep?Warmore: Finally, you give some specifics. For the record, Ms Keeling did not call the Fire Marshall. I knew this was a lightning rod issue so I researched thoroughly knowing it would be brought up. There are multiple names listed on the complaint list, Ms Keeling is not one of them. Why don’t you check? If you are a drill team parent, you may recognize some of the them. It is my understanding that the treasurer of the boy’s basketball booster club had a conversation with one of his friends who has a daughter on the drill team. Instead of going to the principal or maintenance or other suggestions made here, they actually talked to each other and worked something out concerning the props on the stage (what a novel concept). There was never a problem after that. So there was no need for anyone else on the booster club to get involved, including Ms Keeling. I would post the two gentlemen involved here, but won’t do so without their consent. I wish you had brought up this or other issues earlier so we could clear the air on the FACTS.

"HE WILL DELIVER FOR US" That quote right there took the cake...
The only thing that Dr.Jaynes delivers is infants!!!!
What's next,a labor and delivery room on campus?????
Let me be quite before this forum gets blocked like the last one did..............

Tami, I heard you on the radio yesterday insisting that Dr. Jaynes would be pressured by the board to abstain from voting on employee issues because his wife works for the school district. That's silly. Your logic would preclude anyone who has a child in the school system from voting on issues that affect students... city council members from voting on issues that affect streets (because they drive on them)... senators from voting themselves pay raises because... umm.. maybe I've gone too far.

Tami, your mannerisms and professionalism throughout this campaign sends a proud and loud message. You have personally put forth positive time and energy into your campaign. And it is obvious that you don't need a grand parade or any other tacky showoff tactics!!!! You have done an amazing job!

As far as I can see you are a winner to be proud of!

VOTE TAMI KEELING !!! VOTE TAMI KEELING!!

Drinks are on you?? Or do you mean that drinks are on the Booster Club/Dance and Drill team??

Yikes. You guys have been awfully busy since yesterday afternoon. I'll let you get back to it, but just a couple of things.

First, Soccermom said, "Tammi's [sic] supporters choose to hide behind these blogs and post comments about the opponent using big words like agenda and ethical." Well, I'm not hiding. I'm right here. You can read my position on the issues on my blog. Unfortunately, I can't stick around today; a lot going on.

Second, Warmore said "Tami Keeling called the fire marshall on the drill team because she said that the props were getting in the way of basketball and their concessions."

That's an outright lie, and I think Warmore knows that. It troubles me that there are those who have actively promoted this and other lies about my views on the dance and drill team. I guess that in the absence of an issue, that'll have to do.

Let's all get out there and vote today.

Tami

Jackofalltrades! Charlie is having a celebration party tonite would you like to go! Drinks are on us!

I wish I could be at the parade/rally, but I no longer live in Victoria. It's part of our constitutional right to rally and support people running for office, etc., and it's a fun way to get people together in the community. GO CHARLEY JAYNES!!!!!

Oh now Jack- I would join them for the Victory parade, but i am not from Victoria. I just know that Dr. Jaynes would only benefit the school board. GOOD LUCK DR. JAYNES--

By the way weren't you going to sleep---please do us a favor(and GO)

Noworries,
This sweet dedication is just for you.....

Sleep on it and get ready for the parade, you and the two victorians and warmore should all meet up for breakfast before the big parade!

VOTE AND RE ELECT TAMI KEELING FOR SCHOOL BOARD!!!!

One final thought for the evening.....
Here is a little bedtime story....

If you still don't understand why Charlie is running for school board?? then I will paint you a clear picture::

"Honey what is wrong, why the tears??
Charlie, You know that you are the wind beneath my wings but I need you to do me one small itsy bitsy favor"

"What is it dearie??
Well, Bernie and I were talking and he thinks that since I am having such a bad year and everyone is against me..

Well, Well, do you think that you could run for school board??
Now do you get the BIG PICTURE??
Victoria will see the whole reason why he is running!!

VOTE KEELING FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS NOT THE WRONG ONES!!

Jack....you are embarrassing yourself. I have no clue who this Vicky person is. You are not helping your candidate by flinging poo all over this website. I would not vote for her now. She should have popped in here & put a lid on you people long ago & she hasn't, that sums up her ethics. She should be ashamed.

Hey Jack-- You told us that story earlier. Is that all you have came up with? By the way Warmore great blog on Truth. I just read it, it is right on!!

VOTE AND RE ELECT TAMI KEELING FOR SCHOOL BOARD!!!!

One last time Vicky the snake who crawls, AKA DA (you know what that means) and last but not least Morton Steak House Lover Just for you, since you still can't get it!!!

One final thought for the evening.....
Here is a little bedtime story....

If you still don't understand why Charlie is running for school board?? then I will paint you a clear picture::

"Honey what is wrong, why the tears??
Charlie, You know that you are the wind beneath my wings but I need you to do me one small itsy bitsy favor"

"What is it dearie??
Well, Bernie and I were talking and he thinks that since I am having such a bad year and everyone is against me..

Well, Well, do you think that you could run for school board??
Now do you get the BIG PICTURE??
Victoria will see the whole reason why he is running!!

VOTE KEELING FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS NOT THE WRONG ONES!!

Oh & smidgeon, I don't need to know anyone "important" to eat at Mortons. I can afford that $50.00 steak all by myself. Oh yes, that's just for the steak, everything is al la carte. It's not like the all u can eat Furr's you are used to.

I graduated from Victoria HS, and cannot believe what has happened to the town & school district. I was also a Victoriadore. I live in another school district in Texas, outside of Victoria, who votes on bonds, then actually BUILDS the schools they voted on, not just talk about it. And, they're built w/in a timely fashion, like the w/in the next yr they're ready for students. Victoria has become a consolidated mess. What was the point of that?? Ridiculous amount of money spent, when they should've spent it on renovating what they had, and adding new schools. What a lame thing to do!!! I can say this because I did move back to Victoria briefly, where my children attended school there. The schools are not run in a fair manner. My kids who are both in elementary, had to attend two different schools. That is UNACCEPTABLE!! People, you need to elect a person who is going to have OPEN eyes to change, and who is able to see outside of the box. Anybody who thinks the district is being run well by the current board is blind to what's going on in the REAL world. The current school board is obviously "old school" and small-minded, and does NOT know how to handle what is going on. The schools are becoming so scary for most people I know, that their children are attending private schools, which is also why I moved away. Why are you people SO afraid to allow new people to take a shot at trying to improve the district, and not just assume the Charley is just trying to be there to fend for DJ. That is just ridiculous, and you all know it. Charley is a fair, intelligent, well-rounded man, who is definitely able to make decisions based on the issue at hand, and not just in favor or his wife. Also, to whomever you idiots are who made comments about DJ, her teaching style, having someone help w/choreography, etc.... well, you just do NOT have ANY idea what in the heck you're talking about. I continued on from high school in the dance world, and folks, your dance team, THE VICTORIADORES, is making your town look good. Some of you are just too dumb to know it. Can anybody name any other teacher or coach who has lasted as long as DJ, and is as beloved as DJ??? I think not!!! And, to the person who stated that only the kids of the parents who put in work should be rewarded??? That's crazy, and you know it!!! Good grief!!!I think Earl Pitts put it best... "WAKE UP AMERICA... I MEAN VICTORIA", since some of you think that Victoria is the only place on earth. Get a clue people. I'm embarrassed for you guys!! GO CHARLEY!!!!! YOU ROCK!!!!!

Jack, keep your day job. Your little "play" isn't even remotely amusing. I am embarrassed for you.

Does your friend know how to spell?

VOTE AND RE ELECT TAMI KEELING FOR SCHOOL BOARD!!!!

One final thought for the evening.....
Here is a little bedtime story....

If you still don't understand why Charlie is running for school board?? then I will paint you a clear picture::

"Honey what is wrong, why the tears??
Charlie, You know that you are the wind beneath my wings but I need you to do me one small itsy bitsy favor"

"What is it dearie??
Well, Bernie and I were talking and he thinks that since I am having such a bad year and everyone is against me..

Well, Well, do you think that you could run for school board??
Now do you get the BIG PICTURE??
Victoria will see the whole reason why he is running!!

VOTE KEELING FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS NOT THE WRONG ONES!!

You know, if y'all are a reflection of Tami Keeling then I would vote for Dr. Jaynes. You people may become her Rev. Wright.

"I arent leaving til school is out and my house sells".....................smidgeon I am guessing you didn't graduate from VISD or any other school for that matter.

West Hollywood? Are you lost? Mine is open & they have the most delicious steak sandwiches they serve at the bar before they start serving dinner. They are very tasty, I highly recommend them.

Wow genius! You must've graduated from VISD! Your anger is not very becoming.

Smidgeon on Thursday you stated that you were leaving to go home. You haven't left yet?

That's you D ASS and By the way Mortons is a steakhouse!

I didn't say I was a snake! To snake somewhere is kinda like meander. you may be a jackofalltrades but you are a master of none!

Who is this Vicky person?

Warmore and VBB i hope Jaynes wins the election and you all can go on a Victory parade all over Victoria. While you riding around you can laugh your butts off at these idiots on this site!! GOOD LUCK DR. JAYNES!!! You have ran a clean campaign!

Oh please smidgeon I'm sure you don't even know what Mortons is.

He is a successful Physician....I'm sure the pitance his wife brings home doesn't even pay for her shoe fetish!!!! You people need a dose, strong dose of reality.

I crawled out of Mortons then snaked over to Neimanns.....I am far from stupid!

victorianbybirth, Be very carefull what you ask for cause you just may get it. remember you reap what you sow.. you said it yourself. Oh i almost forgot VOTE KEELING.. FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS. NOT THE WRONG ONES.. AND THAT MEANS YOU.

Truth hurts huh?? Get some sleep Vicky, you and Bullhead need some shuteye and deep REM sleep to kick off your grand event!

What the bloody ---- are you people talking about????? You really need to put the tinfoil hats back on...I think the microwaves are getting to you, frying your already baked brains. Crawl back under your rocks.....can't wait til tomorrow so you all will go back from where you came!

UMMMMM...I make more sense than his little play. I don't see Dr. Jaynes as DJs lap dog for 1. I don't think he would jeopardize his standing in the community to be her public pull toy. You people have issues with reality, amongst other things.

Oh one more thing victorianbybirth??
I assume that you were in some form a participant in the Grand Parade....so give us the time and place cause I am sure that there will be a continuation tomorrow, I don't want to miss it (Not!)
I heard soo many people who were laughing about how embarrasing it was to our community!

victorianbybirth, what are you talking about? you make no sense.
Jack of all trades told the story so go back and read it how ignorant can you be? Open your eyes and smell the coffee. The reasons are there. I agree with Jack.
You say "everyone talks about how evil she is I would think she is quite capable of taking care of herself." I doubt that.. any woman who throws tantrums on a gym floor in front of her class is incapable of self control much less taking care of herself!

I simply do not see a professional such as Dr. Jaynes potentially damaging his business & professional reputation to run for school board fo r the sole purpose of running intereference for his wife. The way everyone talks about how evil she is I would think she is quite capable of taking care of herself. Any individual running for school board in Victoria most likely will have some sort of conflict of interest. I would think people would be more concerned about someone having kids in the schools getting preferential treatment instead of grandkids. That arguement is grasping at straws. School Board, City Council, etc...throw all the BUMS OUT! You people bitch & complain & then wind up reelecting them....you reap what you sow.

Mr.Warmore if I were you I would get some sleep you have a big day tomorrow earning brownie points with DJ. You know Drill Team Dad of the year award!!!!

Jackofalltrades,
You seem quite immature. Why is it necessary to poke fun at the way Dr. Jaynes is running his campaign? If you don't agree with an issue, say what you think.... but this is not a joke.

Smidgeon, I take offense at being called a Mr, and I have no clue what you are referring to, nor do I care. We differ in who we support for various reasons and enough said about that.

Hello anybody home? Does anybody know what time the jaynes parade kicks off tomorrow? what is this? I thought cinco de mayo was last week!!!HAHAHA how silly can the fools be?

Warmore,
you speak about concerns that school board members should have and about intersts of all involved. I will remind you that the only interests of concern that matters to charlie are any and all drill team concerns.
Think about it...why is jaynes suddenly interested in running for school board??

You speak about losing all respect for Keeling. Keeling has many honorable and educational reasons to be re elected and she has done a wonderful job. So you think that delivering 10,000 babies is a qualification??? There are plenty of other doctors who have delivered as many or more babies. Now you also said that "if I were Tami's friend, I would be embarrassed at her tactics." You yourself should be embarrassed to be part of the big navarro parade!

If you still don't understand why Charlie is running for school board?? then I will paint you a clear picture::

"Honey what is wrong, why the tears??
Charlie, You know that you are the wind beneath my wings but I need you to do me one small itsy bitsy favor"

"What is it dearie??
Well, Bernie and I were talking and he thinks that since I am having such a bad year and everyone is against me..

Well, Well, do you think that you could run for school board??
Now do you get the BIG PICTURE??
Victoria will see the whole reason why he is running!!

VOTE KEELING FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS NOT THE WRONG ONES!!

If she were concerned, she should have consulted the director or the principal. A board member who has the interests of all involved, would have given them the opportunity to address the issue before calling the county. That decision, along with lying about voting on salaries has made me lose respect for her. I'm not talking about her husband, or her husbands law firm, or her kids, grandkids, friends, neighbors....Just TAMI....her actions have been deplorable and I have no respect for her. You can say what you want about the drill team, the Jaynes kids, grandkids, patients, wife...but the fact is, Charlie Jaynes is honorable, has run a clean campaign and for me, the issue is about the candidates...only the candidates..Charlie and Tami. Even if I were Tami's friend, I would be embarrassed at her tactics. You will never admit it because you are a Keeling supporter, but the facts speak for themselves.....100% not 20%.

Warmore, I see that you are back. I guess you were the one navigating the Jaynes float.
As far as the fire marshall being called??? I don't know. But what I do know is that safety is a Big issue for Mrs. Keeling and she made a decision out of concern. And if if is such a big deal to you and any other drill team parents then the prop should have met all OSHA standards and regulations!!! VOTE KEELING !!!!!!! FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS!!!

Because they were a fire hazard?!?

For the three who are intereted: Tami Keeling called the fire marshall on the drill team because she said that the props were getting in the way of basketball and their concessions. She said the props were too big and they were a fire hazard so she called the fire marshall. Could she hsve talked to the director to work out a solution??? Could she have talked to the principal or the director??? I don't know why she called the fire marshall..but she did....Why do you think???

soccermom, I wouldn't brag about the great number of Jaynes and his supporters because the group consists of drill team parents and members. so don't be fooled. and for the record yes, tami and her supporters represent ethics and morals where agenda is concerned unlike her opponent!

Jackofalltrades, politics is one thing, but the jaynes gang is getting out of hand. I can see Posting signs but creating a citywide spectacle is a whole different story! Not to mention a nusiance.. I hope that they realize that this makes them look bad and will work against their campaign. and many will keep this in mind when they place their vote tomorrow! They will vote for Tami and not for charlie! Yeah, I guess texas mom was one who was probably riding on the back of the float!!

Just an answer. I think Tammi voters and supporters have a little more class than that. Please, to stand around and make fools of themselves is just what I expect from that group. Just a quick question. Were you one of them? Sorry just a question.

jackofalltrades question? If you saw Tammi and gang waving signs and causing a commotion on Navarro would you think the same way? Just a question?

I to would like to know. So, now that is 3 of us.   You know its been a very long time since my son attended Howell but i can remember when they had a Hawaiian Luau and you had to pay 40 bucks to be part of event and you could invite 5 friends. i just thought it was unfair because of course you either had kids that were not invited or you had kids that could not pay for the event. Does anyone know if this event exists at Howell?
 
 

Ive been living in the great town of good ol Victoria. Today I saw the most upsetting, annoying, ridiculous thing on Navarro st. I saw supporters of Charles Jaynes making fools of themselves. They support some guy who's wifes rear is on the line. And that my fellow Victorians is the REAL REASON to why he is running. So tomorrow think smart and vote for someone who is very qualified and is running for the right reasons. TAMI KEELING HAS MY VOTE AND MANY MANY OTHERS.

Warmore; “Negatively Impacts an Organization”…huh. Once again, accusations with no details. I’m with smidgeon, what the heck are you talking about? Homework grade: D-

Whatareu4,
My issue is not about Ms. Keeling representing an organization in VISD, it is about her negatively impacting an organization in VISD when she is supposed to be for "All" kids. I am not so petty that I would fault any person, board member, teacher...... for being involved, but it makes a statement to me when a board member negatively impacts a school organization. I think it is wrong and I think that it is "unbecoming" of any school official or an elected official.

whatareu4
I never said a report was filed. I said it was reported but that I did not know the outcome. I don't know about Mr. Klimist or Mrs. Smith, but the situations that you described seem innocent enough to me. If you are a friend of Ms. Keeling, ask her if she ever had any contact with an outside county official concerning another school organization. She will be able to give you more details.

Warmore: We do agree on one thing. I am also in favor of not combining the Booster Clubs. It’s the ole 90/10 rule. Ninety percent of the money and work are done by 10% of the parents and players and the other 90% want to complain. Unless there is a proven equitable means to distribute the funds then this would never work. Good in theory, but not in reality.I do have a follow up to your homework assignment: You’re right, that was short. So what you are saying is that Ms Keeling represented an organization with VISD and that made her “unbecoming” and “questionable”. So does that make Mr. Klimist and Ms. Smith the same when they met with the MTV reps as published in the Victoria Advocate on October 13, 2007? I’m not so sure that it does or it doesn’t. But if it does, I would think you should feel compelled to file a report on each of them and bring it up when they are up for re-election. Were they representing all of the students of VISD? How does meeting with MTV represent the 3rd grader at O’Conner elementary? But I’m sure that was “different”.And how do you know that Ms Keeling has not represented other organizations when she felt compelled. I can’t speak for the elementary schools, but I’ve seen Ms Keeling at Howell, Patti Welder and Crain events when she doesn’t even have kids there. She is by far the most visible and approachable council member I have met. Obviously, the report you claim that was filed against Ms Keeling was without merit since no disciplinary action was taken or made public. Anyone can claim anything against anybody. But if someone has been cleared of a false report, you can’t continue to claim their guilt just because you don’t like the answer. If you can’t back it up then you need to preface your public forum statements as saying they are your opinion and not try to pass them on as fact.

I think the biggest issue with having one booster club is who raises the money, how it will be raised, how it will be distributed and what percentage goes to each club. Would having one booster club enable some athletic clubs to get only the things they need, and other clubs to frivously get what they "want"?? Some clubs are well funded by VISD and some are not. Who would decide "wants" -vs- needs?? I definitely don't believe in an organization with an inactive booster club reaping the benefits from a very active booster club, and club expenses are so different. Until I researched it further, my gut opinion is that I think each organization's booster club should be separate, especially since they are run by the parents. Along with that idea, I think that VISD should invest more in the organizations for the students. I think it is wrong that any club has to rely primarily on monies raised through parent organizations... because all students deserve the best...especially when it comes to "competition" sports.

warmore? what's your opinion on 1 booster athletic club?? I am curious.

In short,it was an issue of putting one organization of students in VISD above another. Nothing illegal, just not fair to ALL VISD students. Board members represent all students, not just the ones they have interests in.

Warmore: Your homework is due. You need to share with the rest of the class.

You are correct people do say the wrong things at the wrong times, BUT she is a person that holds a position in this community. She is held more accountable to the tax payers of Victoria. So yeah she needs quit the mud slinging!! She didn't just say one thing wrong. If I you would do some research on victoria advocate you would see she is all over the blogs!!

You know what really gets me is that you only see these ppl come out when its election time. They plea for our votes. I am not saying that Tami has not done her job. I just think its time for change and I believe Dr. Jayne's can and will deliver this to us. I mean just about 6months ago we all were ousting all the board on another forum for bringing a criminal to our district.

Again, I say change.

SMIDGE- At least his commercial isn't attacking his opponent. What makes you an expert on why he is running for office??

Warmore- Point taken. You are correct; I have made assumptions that are my opinion based on conversations I have had with pundits on both sides of this political race. You are also correct that I am not “clever” enough to know the motives of why one runs for this office (God only knows why someone would put themselves through this). I am man enough to admit that I got caught up in this emotional banter. I tend to do that when someone insults my intelligence and assumes that I haven’t done my homework; I’m sure you would agree.

You almost had me up until your last couple of statements. Don’t you understand that statements like: “Ms Keeling has targeted the drill team” and has “committed actions unbecoming of school board member” without giving any specifics is just plain wrong? Am I to do what you say, but not do as you do? You can’t have it both ways. You also assume that I haven’t discussed tough issues with Ms Keeling. I have been impressed with her specifics on issues that are important to me and her experience cannot be overlooked. So if you want to be a little more specific in your accusations then I would like to know what they are. If she has done something so bad to be labeled “unbecoming” and the board swept it under the carpet then we have bigger issues. Obviously, it sounds like “you’re in the know”. If this is something that I’m not aware of, then I would be glad to call Ms. Keeling and come back and post her responses. I would rather you ask these questions through her blog and hear it straight from her because I have a business to run. Or better yet, since you haven’t fully followed up on the results of the report that was filed, why don’t you finish your homework and report back. Thanks for setting me straight.

Each district has a policy committee to review policies. These policies are put before the board members twice-in a first and second reading before they are sent to TASB to become a policy in the district. Policies are written to take the guesswork out of the action of district employees and/ or boardmembers. It is the rule book. Charlie Jaynes has always followed the rules and will continue to do so. The ethics in the situation should have been discussed in the Policy Committee meeting, then again when it was placed on the board agenda for the first and second reading. When a policy is added to local school district policy, it has been viewed and reviewed multiple times so that a layperson/a teacher, a parent.... does not have to guess upon a course of action to take. When boardmembers begin to discount their own policies in the interest of "ethics" I can assure you that parents, students, and teachers will follow suit and apply the "ethics" clause to their situation as well. If board members did not like the policy, they should have sent it back to the policy committee for review. There is no silver lining here. Policy is black and white....no guessing, no ethics...just the law in VISD. All Board Members and member candidates need to be well-versed in their policy.

Offthereservation----Check out the post from Mrs Keeling about 11:30 last night. Seems like she believes that!!

Pecuniary Interest -TEA
Attorney General's Opinion No. JM-424, dated February 6, 1986, concerns conflict of interest by certain local public officials, including school board members. This opinion rules that Article 988b, VTCS (superseded by Chapter 171), permits transactions with school trustees that were formerly prohibited by the common law.
The opinion states that a school district can do business with an entity in which a board member has a substantial interest, if the board member has appropriately filed an affidavit with the board disclosing such interest, and if the board member abstains from voting on actions pertaining to the interest. The definition of substantial interest is a part of the Code, and includes a nepotism clause. Chapter 171 of the defines a person as having a substantial interest in a business entity if: (1) the person owns 10 percent or more of the voting stock or shares of the business entity or owns either 10 percent or more or $15,000 or more of the fair market value of the business entity; or (2) funds received by the person from the business entity exceed 10 percent of the person's gross income for the previous year.
Conflict of interest statutes also apply to individuals designated as school district investment officers of the district. The Public Funds Investment Act contains requirements relating to the disclosure of financial interests (of investment officers) in entities providing and/or other financial services to the district. For example, a disclosure in the format prescribed by the Texas Ethics Commission is required to be filed by an investment officer when the investment officer's money market account is managed by an entity that sells securities to the district.

more info for thought...

I don't understand you all...Jaynes CAN'T vote on salary and benefits issues unless he wants to change the way the board currently does things. Seems to me that's an ethical call that he'd have to make. As a taxpayer, I'm glad the board holds itself to a higher standard. Does he want to change this?

victorianbybirth said And it wasn't all that long ago when everybody was wanting all the incumbents thrown off the School Board, now they are doing a fabulous job? Whats changed in the past month or so?

That's what I am talking about!

I hope Mrs. Keeling will respond with a answer.(not a lot of empty words) I am not from Victoria, but the people of Victoria need answers not assumptions. Don't bring others down to make your self look better. Good Luck to Dr. Jaynes

Keeling admits misleading the public in a cleverly worded statement. I hope the general public can see through these tactics. Will you be removing your commercials from the air because it is not true that Dr. Jaynes cannot vote on VISD's compensation package? Are you familiar with "Election Fraud"? I really don't think "MISIMPRESSION" is the appropriate word to use.

Mrs. Keeling--- are you assuming that Dr. Jaynes would vote on salaries and benefits for family members?? Do you know that for a FACT???

I can clarify the ability of my opponent, Dr. Jaynes, to – if elected – vote on matters involving salaries and benefits for district employees on account of the fact that his wife and son-in-law are employees of the district.

Since I have been on the board (and for longer than that), it has been the practice of members of the VISD board who have relatives working for the district to abstain from voting on salaries or benefits for the class of employees to which the board member’s relative belongs. This practice has been observed faithfully during my time on the board by Dr. De Los Santos, whose husband is a district employee.

State law does not require abstention in those circumstances. However, a board member in this position must decide whether or not he or she is comfortable voting on public funds that will end up in their joint checking account.

Personally, I am proud that the VISD board has chosen to adhere to a higher ethical standard than the minimum requirements of state law, and I applaud Dr. De Los Santos and others who have seen the value of making sure that their actions are above any question of impropriety in this regard. I think our practice is the correct and ethical path to take, and in my opinion it should continue to be observed.

Tami Keeling

It's time for CHANGE!!

TomTom-Even with special called meetings there must be an agenda that is public record. Board members cannot hire members of their family-following the nepotism policy-consanguity and affinity guidelines--their are degrees or relatives that are too far down the kinship line to count. If their family member is already working in the district when they are elected, then that is legal. If they have a member of their family they want to hire, but the nepotism policy prohibits, then trustee must abstain from voting on that issue of hiring. Tami is wrong about the fact that a board member cannot vote on compensation packages for a family member; as long as the member is part of the total compensation package, the trustee does not have to abstain. Call TASB legal, speak to any attorney and they will clarify the policy for you.

She is basing a large portion of her commercials and her radio ads on information that is not true. I don't know Tami Keeling, but am very proficient in my knowledge regarding school board matters.

whatareu4--Thanks for supporting the drill team and other organizations in VISD!
It seems that "you" understand board politics, but one person is still one person. He/she must be joined by three others who have the same beliefs. 4 is the magic number for an issue... good or bad, we must live with the majority decision.

I am confused by your "personal bias" comment. I am, and have been speaking in defense of Charlie Jaynes so that readers can know the truth. I admire the public for asking questions, however, I don't admire the public or you, for that matter, when you make accusations that have no basis or semblance to the truth. There are many conclusions one can reach when presented with facts, even "fishy" ones, but guessing about another's motives and claiming to know their intentions are wrong. And when you think that you are clever enough to guess another's motives, why is it that the worst case scenario is the ones that is touted off like truth? Charlie Jaynes has been open and honest with his platform. He did not include the drill team, so the drill team is not an issue in this campaign.

Could it be that you need to distance yourself from your "situation and put away your personal biases"? If you really are seeking the truth, you will discover that Ms. Keeling has targeted the drill team. I won't go so far as to say she has spent her year harassing the drill team, but she has committed actions that are unbecoming of a school board member. Ask her and let her speak the truth to you. And for the record, her actions were reported. I do not know the outcome, but if you ask Tami, I'm sure she'll tell you. She has committed several actions that are questionable, including her campaign tactics.

Just trying to set the record straight!!!

Warmore- Don’t insult my intelligence; certainly I know how a school board “works”. I also know how politics works? A 4-3 vote today can quickly change to a 3-4 vote tomorrow. That’s what one board member can do! If you could distance yourself from the situation and put away all personal biases and review the sequence of events that took place prior to the campaign and all the players involved, can you honestly say that it doesn’t look fishy and how dare the public not ask questions? I have personally supported the drill team to the tune of about $5,000 in the last five years, so please don’t question my community involvement or knowledge of the benefits of programs such as theirs. Obviously, I would not do so unless I cared about their program and their parents. As I have done with football, basketball, cheerleaders etc. What I don’t like is the accusation that Ms. Keeling has somehow has singled out and harassed and trashed them when there is no evidence of such.Sickofit- if you aren’t speaking of the drill team then who where you speaking of when you posted (05/02/08 12:18) “Mrs. Keeling has spent her year harassing 70 students, in a successful program. She has tried to destroy this program and the student's self esteem. She should have been working on the students that dropped out, not the students that will graduate with honors!” I don’t know anymore than what I hear or read– you are the one that said she was harassing them. Who is it…. the band? ….the football team? Who? That’s the point. People can’t come out here and make accusations, leave it open ended and move on. If you knew of a problem with Ms Keeling harassing someone, why wasn’t it reported up through administration? If it was, what was the outcome? For the record, Ms Keeling was never appointed.  She was elected in 2005.

Whatareu4 - I'm sorry, but I did not mention drill team. Do you know something, or are you saying that Keeling did harass them? VISD needs to improve, and the past members have not done this. I do not think that Mrs. Keeling was elected to her post, she was appointed. Mrs. De Los Santos has a family member that is employed by VISD and she seem to vote on almost all issues. If what you are saying about voting on issues is true, I would think having children in the schools or being PTO president would also keep you from voting. Please don't put information out there that I did not say. I want a better education for all students, that is the issue!!

Why is it so hard to believe that Dr. Jaynes has opted to run for VISD’s school board for the love of all kids? What do you think one board member can do for the drill team or any other organization or issue? Do you have any concept of how a school board works? VISD has a seven member board and it takes 4 board members to pass a motion.

The drill team has no issues with Mr. Moore. The drill team has issues with anyone organization or person that does not support them and continuously trashes the organization and those involved. Try trashing other student organizations in VISD like football, basketball, cheerleaders, National Honor Society, Band or the Math club and see what happens. These are students at Memorial High School who deserve to be respected. Remember in VISD, all students count!

The drill team and it’s parents support Mr. Moore. Regarding the MTV issue: Parents on the drill team were very unhappy with the “WAY” the decision was reached. The MTV process began in October and filming was almost complete when almost four months later the process was halted. It’s not “what decision was reached”, it’s “How the decision was reached” that parent’s questioned. A lot of time and energy was wasted by all involved.

All the VISD board agendas are posted on their website. If an item is not on the agenda, legally, it cannot be discussed. Take a look at the agendas and see how many times “THE DRILL TEAM” has been an item. The answer to that is “ZERO” times. VISD and the Board of Trustees have more important issues besides the drill team, and really, its time that people began to let Dr. Charlie Jaynes run his campaign on his own platform.

I disagree with the statement that Bob Moore is doing a good job.... Wasn't it Bob Moore who fired a perfectly wonderful HS principal so he could bring in Maples who turned out to be a criminal??? Mr. Moore cannot be bothered to return phone calls or emails from parents who have legitimate concerns and complaints.... he just passes those on to his underlings....

I don't know if Dr. Jaynes is running to secure his wife's future employment. It would seem to me that if the School Board wanted her gone, it would have to be a vote and more than one person would have to vote against her or for her....

Rainwater, I'm beginning to wonder if you are not a poster who used to go by the name of Mingoflamingo or something... seems you've got a real issue with Ms Jaynes. But to address something you brought up in an earlier post: There IS a seperate court for truancy... it's called (drum roll) TRUANCY COURT! As far as the dropout rate, it's a disgrace... but you know what? No one at VISD cares how many students drop out. And I DEFY ANY MEMBER OF THE SCHOOL BOARD OR ANYONE FROM BOB MOORE'S OFFICE TO CONTACT ME AND PROVE ME WRONG! Kids under the age of 17 can get a court order from the JP's office to legally withdraw from school. Any one caring too hear the information can contact me offsite.....

I will say this: When Maplegate first began, I emailed each and everyone of the school board members with my concerns and comments. Out of them all 2 members, Ray Walden and Lou Svetlik responded via email, and Tami Keeling telephoned me and spoke to me for over an hour! She listened and gave me HONEST answers! She has children in VISD and understood me at a parent.... So she won points with me!

Dr. Jaynes is a wonderful OB/GYN.... But my concern with him isn't even about DJ.... it's the time....He will be a physcian first and foremost.... I really do not feel as he understands the committment and I do know that he'd never jeopardize a patient for the School Board Meetings....

I agree of the Klimist factor. Is his term almost up?!?

dont forget the DBGSD emails too. I HOPE THEY HAVE A PERMIT TO PARADE DOWN NAVARRO.

Mr. Moore - stand strong baby!

Offthereservation: you are correct; this is about the drill team. My point was the drill team nation say that it’s not, but can’t make any valid arguments unless they feel they have to mention the drill team and defend DJ from the “attacks” of Ms. Keeling. Give me a break….what would Ms Keeling have to gain by bringing down the drill team? There’s a much larger issue at stake here. Ms Keeling does ask tough questions and doesn’t succumb to the pressures that may/may not be evident from Mr. Klimist. From recent discussions with drill team parents, it has become apparent to me that most of their issues lie with Mr. Moore and not as much with Ms. Keeling. Are you nuts? This is the best superintendent we’ve had in ions and you want to give him grief because of petty issues concerning the drill team. This man has done more for Victoria schools than anyone in recent memory. Maybe I’m slow, but it’s all beginning to make sense now. Let’s add it up:
• Superintendent axes MTV (rightly so)
• DJ and Co. are po’d. Despite the obviously correct decision, drill team moms and members write letters to the editor and publicly pound the superintendent
• One school board member’s spouse does the choreography for the drill team
• There’s a race for school board seat and the drill team instructor’s husband decides to run.
• Droves of drill team nation canvas the city of Victoria with signs and fliers
• If elected, there would be two members on the board with axes to grind (If momma ain’t happy, ain’t nobody happy). Don’t forget the superintendent reports to the school board.
And this isn’t about special interests? Just a message to Bob Moore; you are doing a fine job. We understand the problems you inherited didn’t happen overnight and it will take time to solve. Just keep moving in the right direction. Good luck Ms. Keeling.

I think this is about more than the drill team, but the drill team figures prominently in it. Mr. Klimist's wife, Laura, is the drill team's choreographer. I think Klimist recruited Jaynes to run against Keeling, who's not afraid to stand up to him when she thinks it's appropriate. That's gotta be what Jaynes means when he talks about "stopping the bickering." I guess Jaynes would just say yes to whatever it is that Klimist wants to do. That would stop the bickering, I guess.

You guys need to stay on point. If this race isn't about the drill team, then stop bringing it up. If you want to know Ms Keeling’s position, ask her through the blog she has set up on the Advocate web page, instead of relying on someone else's interpretation of her views.
Sickofit mentions below that Ms Keeling spent all year "harassing" 70 members of the drill team. But it's easy to throw out accusations behind a made up user name and not back it up with any facts. Don't you understand that comments like that only expose the real reasons for Dr Jaynes deciding to run for office and the public suspicion surrounding his motives? Stick to the facts...Ask the tough questions...get informed.
I would like to know how many school board meetings Dr Jaynes attended. What has he done to prepare himself to serve on the board? Does simply being a taxpayer, a businessman and a grandfather make him qualified? No disrespect to Dr Jaynes, but Ms. Keeling is far more qualified for this position...period. She is experienced, fiscally responsible and answers questions with specific facts to support her position. Most importantly, this race is far more important than the trivial threads mentioned below. This race is about ALL students of VISD and the residual financial impact on our city. Stick to the facts; but more importantly vote for the most qualified candidate. I think the choice is obvious.

Everyone loves it when the drill team here sweeps the honors and wins first all the time. People want their kids on a winning team, but then don't want the discipline that comes with making and forming a winning team. Football, drill team, any sports......if you want it you gotta earn it and that means some tough and unyielding discipline.

Why is choreography a question to be asked when you are discussing electing someone for the school board? I hope this is not how you decide who you are going to vote for. Dr. Jaynes is a great, caring man that is worried about education, not choreography. And by the way, the drill team members do their own choreography. It is a wonderful skill they learn from being on a successful dance team. They have people help to fine tune, but these smart, talented, and gifted students do the majority of the work.

Actually Rainwater, medical billing is not as easy as one would think. It does take a lot of work to run a successful medical practice these days. Don't discount the mans business sense. If you don't like him due to his family & percieved conflicts of interest I can understand that, but to bash him based on his successful business I don't understand. I would like to have a smart, successful, business-minded person on my school board.

Rainwater, I don't see what Dr. Jaynes' patients have to do with anything. The girls in the Juvenile Detention Center were pregnant when they were placed there, he did not impregnate them himself. Do you think they should not have prenatal care or just not by him? When one is a physician one must put aside ones own morals & beliefs in order to abide by the Hypocratic Oath. If all physicians only cared for those that fit into their own belief system then there would be quite a few people who could not recieve medical care. I don't understand why you are blaming Dr. Jaynes for the teen pregnancy problem.

And it wasn't all that long ago when everybody was wanting all the incumbents thrown off the School Board, now they are doing a fabulous job? Whats changed in the past month or so? And why would you want anyone on the school board who chooses to place their own children in private school? They have nothing at stake so why should they really care. Thats just my opinion though, what do I know?

You're grasping at straws. They both supported her when she first became principal. It wasn't until later that almost everyone turned sour on her, particularly those who were most favorable to appointing her, going so far as to circulate a petition in her favor.

I don't have a problem with the parents helping with sets, costumes, etc. My question was regarding the choreography which she herself gives credit to someone else for. When Porche took over at VHS she tried to rein in teachers who had been doing whatever they pretty much wanted to for years. The two who were reassigned were two who didn't want to see things changed.

This constitutes thread drift, but sometimes you just gotta go with the flow.

According to Scarlett, Porche "backed her teachers 100%, if they were doing what they were supposed to be doing."

Izzatso? Two members of the Campus Improvement Committee were shipped off to Stroman and Mitchell when they dared to report what the majority of teachers believed concerning her. Is that because they weren't doing their job, or because they were doing it too well?

Incidentally, D.J. gets a lot of outside help because, apparently, a lot of people want to contribute to the drill team, including a LOT of moms and dads. Or did you think D.J. was going to sew all those costumes and build the sets all by herself?

Back to the topic at hand, the reason a lot of signs are put up outside of his district is because a lot of people are known to drive outside his voting district. You don't have a problem with freedom of speech, do you? If you don't want to support Dr. Jaynes, you can at least support the Bill of Rights.

Here is my two bits and take them for what they are worth....Charles Jaynes is running for the school board for selfish reasons. It is my opinion that he wants to make sure that his wife, DJ, has a job when the schools de-consolidate. The other is to continue the useless fight about the Victoriadores name when and if she continues working at the high school level. I also think that he is running so that if she wants to voice her opinion, she has the means because everybody else on the board is tiring of hearing her cry about everything that doesn't involve the name Victoriadores. GET THE MESSAGE DJ...we don't care about a name for a drill team. If you are an educator at all, focus on what is important...the education of our children. If you are considering voting for Charles Jaynes, I urge you to rethink your position. If you are not, GOOD! And as far as the signs around town...it is ridiculous. I had thought at one time candidates could only put signs within the district they are running. If so, please pass that memo to ole Charley so he can get some of the graffiti cleaned up around this town. I am tired of seeing them and I am probably not the only one in this town that feels this way. The only other comment I would like to throw out there, is he made a comment about wanting to make sure that his grandchildren have the same education opps as he did. I am sure that if he were elected, he would make sure that his grandchildren are taken care of promptly over the needs of other children in the district. To me, with his wife being the drill team instructor and his comments about his grandkids, I see a conflict of interest. These are my comments and take them for what they are worth...

Thanks Riverboat I was sitting here thinking the same. rainwater get a life!

Sorry, I have to chime in to defend Melissa Porche. I had the honor of working as a teacher with her as my principal. She backed her teachers 100%, if they were doing what they were supposed to be doing. You support Janyes because he will stand up for what he believes is right, well Mrs. Porche did the same thing and people just couldn't handle it. In my opinion, if she had been a man and came in to turn that campus around the way she tried to nothing would have been said. She is one tough cookie who expected teachers to do their job. Speaking of which, I have to ask, if DJ is so good at her job, why does someone else do all her choreography ? What does DJ really do other than be at the school and collect her paycheck?

Why did you bring up Porche??
Do you really want to remind everyone that DJ was fired by this principal... Finally someone stood up to her! Where is Porche now !????!! Maybe we should get her on the school board !!!!!!!!!!!

Are you new to the district, Rainwater, or are you just ignorant of everything that has happened before consolidation? If Dr. Jaynes had wanted to protect his wife, he would have run for the school board during the Porche regime.

Allow me to recommend a book called "Eats, Shoots and Leaves" by Lynne Truss. She has many salient observations concerning the proper use of the apostrophe.

Anyone who thinks that Charlie Jaynes is running for the schoolboard for any reason other than to improve our schools, and do something about reforming the present armpit of education they have become DOES NOT KNOW CHARLIE JAYNES.
I have known the man since he arrived in this town and no one can ever say that he is afraid to stand up for what he believes, that he has ever done anything that is not honorable and above board, nor that he does not have common sense.
That last one is the kicker for me. We need someone on the board who has some common sense.....who hopefully will realize that you can stand and throw dollar bills at kids all day long and they will not get educated, that redistricting to make a better football team is heinous, that addressing the issue of pregnant children in our schools can no longer be avoided, and that we are wasting education dollars at a rate that is more than astounding. (Now those talking points are my own and I do not know where Dr. Jaynes stands on any of them.  However, my bet is he will use his common sense on these issues an many more)
Dr. Jaynes is indeed a busy man, with a busy medical practice. But I can personally guarantee that if Charlie Jaynes says he is going to do something he is going to do it right and first class and devote whatever time is needed to make sure that is so.

What has Mrs. Keeling done that is so great? You are right, we have lost hundreds of our students that will not graduate. Mrs. Keeling has spent her year harassing 70 students, in a successful program. She has tried to destroy this program and the student's self esteem. She should have been working on the students that dropped out, not the students that will graduate with honors!

Can you blame any of the school board members? Who in their right mind would send their children to the Junior High Schools or High Schools in this town? Gangs, drugs, violence, truancy, and total chaos is not anything any sain individual would want their children to be a part of. VISD is in a critical state of disrepair and immediate action needs to be taken to unscrew what has happened over the last 20 or so years. Where I'm from, VISD was a laughing stock compared to the neighboring school districts.

We need Charles Jaynes because he doesn't bury his head in the sand. He stands firm, makes sound decisions, and is not afreaid to admit that this school district is in trouble. He knows it, and is one of the first candidates ever, that has publicly stated he is here to make an impact in the schools. He wants to change the direction, and he wants to do it quick. If you want the truth then you need to vote for Charles Jaynes.

I really just have a question. Are there any school board members or candidates who have actually sent their children to VISD schools other than Charlie Jaynes? I am not thrilled with people who make rules and policy for one group of students, yet send their children to a different school where they are governed by different rules. Also, get off of continually complaining about DJ. Charlie Jaynes is running for scholl board and not his wife.