We're going to lock this thread because it's out of control. When discussing the school board election, please stick to issues related to the school district. Do not spread rumors and innuendo.

Poor little bighorn taxpayer. What would you have us use our tax money on? I am a taxpayer and there is nothing I would rather spend money on than educating our children.

I have a newsflash for you EDUCATION COSTS MONEY!

THere is the issue of old overcrowded buildings and the small pesky detail of paying teachers. How would you suggest we do this?

You probably don't have any children in VISD, but guess what: that's what taxes are for in this country, schools, roads, etc.

Think of it this way: the better your schools are, the less likely you are to get robbed by some poor loser who went to an overcrowded school where no one cared.

Let's please stick to the issues...I don't care about adultery, I just want someone who is going to do a good job on the school board.

For the Love of God now we will bring adultery into this. gezzz you really need to get
a life. I have heard it all.

After the last bond issue, I'm all for sending all the board members home. Then maybe a REAL board would set Bob the Builder on his way.

Why is that no one, and I mean no one cares about the poor taxpayer who is getting hosed. And you haven't seen anything until all those bonds start maturing.

Will Victoria grow fast enough to pay off it's debt. Bet not. Will you taxes grow and grow? Will buildings educate your children? Will Bob the Builder stay long enough to see all his plans carried through? How about all the payments made of his buildings? How many will carry current board members names on them?

He has screened his patients who live in the voting district for votes when they go in to see him as their doctor. That is the most unethical and unprofessional behavior I've ever experienced from an MD.
 
 I would like to know names! I know Dr. Jayne's and he would never ever do such
 a thing.

I see, that's wonderful for Dr Jaynes and his family, I always have liked him...I see you're unable to dispute any of the below facts I listed about his behavior during this campaign. You wouldn't be able to because I've witnessed both of these first hand and know exactly what I'm talking about.

Great family aside, I do feel Tammy Keeling is the most competent candidate for this position and would do the better job in advocating for ALL of our children.

Sounds like you know about what his whole life consists of...Family member?

bellyboob, I did check out the website, looks like Dr. Jaynes is an accomplished ob/gyn. I don't think anyone ever contested that fact. I, for one, always knew that. That's why I've been even more surprised with the way he has behaved during this campaign.

By the way, checking out his references: just wondering why Mr. Blanchard has a "Vote for Tammy Keeling" sign in his front yard?

Maybe, just maybe, he is like a lot of us who think Dr. Jaynes is a capable ob/gyn, but think Tammy Keeling makes a better candidate for the schoolboard seat.

I have a hard time in singing the praises of Bob Moore.... yes, he initiated the $159 million bond.... but he also hired Dr. Mark Maples, aka convicted felon.... as principal of MHS, and fired a perfectly acceptable principal.... Then tried to make the citizens of Victoria believe that all was well.....

texasmom, thanks for finally arguing actual issues we can discuss.

I believe the words Dr. Jaynes used were that he supports a "change in administration" Last time I checked, the superintendent is the administration.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the timing of his run is at least suspect to anyone with any common sense. Moore tell his wife no - Jaynes suddenly decides he has a duty to the community to be on the school board - the school board makes decisions about Moore's employment with VISD. Got it?
The fact that Keeling supporters support Mr. Moore and respectfully refer to him as our Superintendent Bob Moore and Jaynes supporters disrespect him by referring to him by the name of a cartoon, also speaks volumes of who supports Mr. Moore.

For the one hundredth time: no one is against the Drill Team. They are a group of hard working great young ladies and everyone respects that. The problem comes in when Dr Jaynes and his wife use their power over these girls and parents to have them campaigning for him.

So: the Drill Team ties in with Jaynes motives and puts in question his ethics in this election. That's it! No one hates them, they are just like any other school club where kids work really hard for what they love.

icandoitall do you know for a fact that Dr. Charlie Jayne's, does not support Bob
the Builder. You must have over heard a conversation or maybe you know facts
that we don't know.Please, tell us when Dr. Jayne's said he did not support Bob
the Builder. Why is the Drill Team such a big issue they win championships they
work hard for something they love doing.and no i have no children on the squad. I
just get tired of hearing that Dr. Jayne's, is running because of the drill team. Has
it ever accrued that maybe he is running for the best interest of the district. I
believe thats why Tammi is running isn't it? I just hate reading all the negative
things about Dr. Jayne's. Have a nice day.

AMEN to that sista!!!
*** but you see this area..they are so closed minded and another word for that is ..NARROW MINDED like the roads around this area..they need to get out more. AUUUGH!!!

Alvarez: "I" am sorry that "I" use "I" when "I" express "my" opinion. That's it! Mystery solved! Tammy Keeling is the only person in the world who uses "I" when speaking of herself, so "I" must be her. You're hilarious...

I agree consolidation was a complete mess, I thought it was a bad, bad idea from the beginning. But it happened, and now we need to fix it.

I think Superintendent Bob Moore is doing exactly that and Dr Jaynes not only doesn't support him, but he also has a personal vendetta against him because of his wise decision to stop the possible disaster of MTV filming our young students and making a reality show out of it. You ever watch a reality show on MTV?

The fact that DJ would allow her students to be exposed to the risk of being made like fools or much worse on national televison shows she is more interested in herself and her 5 minutes of fame then those girls.

But that's just "MY" opinion. I"m not attacking anyone, just expressing my opinion, last time I checked, you could still do that in this country.

Put this on the calendar: I agreed with Ragman on May 20, in the wee hours of the day. He said, "Consolidation was the worst debacle ever thrust up on the families and children of Victoria."

And that, in a nutshell, is why I would never support the current members who feverishly campaigned on the anti-consolidation platform, then proceeded to do absolutely NOTHING after they became elected.

Yea, like grammar education.

Facts pertaining to VISD Trustee Klimist and Dr. Jaynes:

1.) Dr. Jaynes and his family are close personal friends of the Klimists.
2.) Ms. Klimist assists Ms. Jaynes annually with choreography of the drill team dances.
3.) Trustee Klimist encouraged Dr. Jaynes to run for the VISD Board.

Facts pertaining to VISD Board Meeting:

During Thursday night’s VISD Board meeting, Trustee Klimist became enraged during the “reorganization of the board” portion of the meeting. Klimist threw a “temper tantrum” and in open session berated Trustees Keeling and Trustee Walden and virtual split the VISD Board with his comments.

Klimist flew off the handle after Trustee Svetlik nominated Trustee Walden for the president’s position on the board. Klimist and Trustee Smith both objected to the process because District 5 was in a possible run-off election at that time. Smith was so upset that she abstained during the voting. During this “little tirade,” Klimist professed his own desire to be board president and aligned himself with Dr. Jaynes.

I would agree with Superdad and whatareu4, elections in VISD District 5 are not about student discipline and grandkids. This race is about being a board president, splitting the VISD Board, and establishing a “victoriadore board.”

Citizens of District 5, please get out and vote during the next election. Our students and schools are too important. Thanks

Consolidation was the worst debacle ever thrust up on the families and children of Victoria.  The realtors who pushed it, and then profited from it, should be ashamed.  But I am sure they are not.  I am glad my child got out of there after the first year of Memorial. The other 3 at least graduated from VHS. The school board is always under fire and under supported.  That's life in VISD.

Hey, I agree that building new schools won't solve the problems we have. An over abundance of rhetoric won't either. Nor does pitting peoople against other people. We need another strong leader that will voice his opinion and make decisions based on the good of all and not out of hate. Keeling needs to quit attacking families and kids just because the kids decided to dance on a team.

I never said that you were on the board during consolidation. Good tactic to try to throw people off. What I said was that you did everything you could to throw a monkey wrench in the Bond Election because you have always been in favor of one huge high school. Remember, you had Joe Wyatt and the others at the meetings with you. And in reference to Charlie Jaynes, I believe he is absolutely willing to work with the current administration. No one else on the board has run mullti million dollar businesses. That is another of your tactics. By the way, you swiched to "I" when talking about fixing the schools. Another OOPS.
And with one last punch, you hurt the kids one more time.

ok, jessie alvarez, then i guess its fair to say that you are AKA vdore and Helen!! Ha. Ha. dumb coverup!

Now we finally get to the actual issues. Thanks, southtexas! Mr Alvarez, please, there is counseling available for the delusional paranoia...

Tammy Keeling WAS NOT a board member when consolidation was voted on. We can beat that dead horse some more, but I prefer to move on to the future.

Thanks to our Superintendent Bob Moore, our community rallied behind our children and passed a $159 bond to build new schools and compensate our teachers better. To have a quality school system smaller schools and well compensated teachers are extremely beneficial.
Thank you southtexas for pointing out the fact that Dr. Jaynes DOES NOT support our Superintendent Bob Moore in his great work to improve our school system. Ms. Keeling on the other hand does, as does most of our community as witnessed by the overwhelming majority who voted for the bond.

I guess Dr. Jaynes' plan would be that we keep our children in those ancient overcrowded schools and build a grandiose new auditorium, correct? Because we don't want to throw money at a problem, what would he suggest we throw? Make up, sparkles, and dance costumes? I would love to fix the problems of VISD for free, but unfortunately, that is not realistic. As a taxpayer, I would rather my money go to improving our children's education and compensating our teachers well then anything else he may have in mind.

THis is exactly why I support Ms. Keeling and look forward to seeing her on the school board for another term.

A tape. The tape won't say what I saw. This is a PRIME Example of just how far Keeling will go to cause hurt and chaos. I would like to know. Did you or Ray Walden write the motion for Lou Svetlik to read? He sure didn't. A buddy of yours told me that the school board is only a stepping stone for you. The real reason you spend so much time in Austin is that you want Jeannie Morrison's position. Now that is scary. All of those extra classes still did not teach you how to read a policy manual or understand board ethics.

Well Ms. Rainwater since you don't have a dog in this fight and you don't have a vote....your opinion is not needed or desired. I don't know about Mr. Alvarez's charges but the sudden explosion of posters who register in a short period of time, appears at the least suspicious.

I am sick and tired of the School Board. The consolidation cost this school district and the taxpayers a bundle....not to say the children. Any idiot knows that bigger is never better when it comes to teaching kids in school....but someone wanted a better football team and consolidation was bound to occur.

Now we get a new Superintendent and before we even know his name he is spending money that will be placed on the backs of our children and grandchildren for big and fancy new schools. Of coure the bond issue passed because people feel guilty if they don't vote for anything that is for the "children". That is a crock of course but is a fact. You can throw dollar bills at kids all day and they won't get a better education.

I am voting for Dr. Jaynes because I know he is going to do what is best for the children and for the taxpayers. I have kept up in detail with what is going on with the schoolboard and Ms. Kelling is not impressive, nor innovative, nor modern in her thinking....it is the same old stuff......

People, if you care anything about your money and your kid's education....vote for Charlie Jaynes.

Alvarez: I was trying to avoid this, but since you insist on claiming that everyone who supports Ms Keeling on this thread is actually….Ms Keeling, I guess I’m forced to go on record as saying …. I am not Tammy Keeling. If I were I would have a lot of explaining to do to my wife and kids (not to mention my urologist). I’m just an informed voter of district 5 that followed the events as they unfolded. I’ve talked with both candidates because they visited my neighborhood. I attended and carefully listened to the answers at the LOWV forum, looking to ensure that the candidates didn’t just pander to a captive audience. I’ve tried to sort rumor from truth. I’ve heavily weighed the experience factor and looked for specific answers to specific questions. I’m sorry, but Dr Jaynes did not fully explain his position on the issues I feel are important and conversely, Ms Keeling has. It may not be the answer I wanted but she was honest and had facts to support her statements. When I went to the polls and voted yes for the bond, it was because I know what good schools will do for our kids and our economy. I think the current board is moving in the right direction and I have entrusted them to make the right decisions. You are right; Mr. Klimist is a proven leader, but showed poor judgment in reacting as he did. Politics is politics, whether you’re in the schoolhouse or the Whitehouse. When you know the vote will not go in your favor, you hold back for another day. Disrespecting other board members, especially senior serving members, is not in your best interest or those of your constituents.

Mr ALvarez, I have been nothing but respectful in my comments to you, but you are really beginning to offend me.

I am not Tammy Keeling and I don't appreciate you attributing my thoughts and ideas to her. It's not fair...I've worked really hard to inform myself on these issues... and if I wasn't afraid of Dr. Jaynes fanatic followers I would actually tell you my name because I have based my arguments ONLY and I repeat ONLY on facts and what I believe is best for our children's schools. THree of my children attend VISD schools and I feel like just casting my vote is not enough.

Seriously, there is help for delusional paranoia.

Hey folks did you happen to notice that all the allias's that Keeling writes under all happened to be logged on and created within the same twenty minutes? Hmmm. And do you realize that she says "we" referring to the board. OOPS. Caught you again!

Klimist never made a motion for himself to be president. That is just a lie. Big Surprise. The motion was to wait on reorganization and Keeling and Walden went nuts to stop it. Klimist's comment was that he felt that Walden was not competent for the position. I can see why, especially with the dirty dealings of this meeting. How embarrasing for Laura Smith to be treated like that by Walden!

look forward to it

I'm sorry, I never wrote "can't we all get along" you must have me confused with someone else. Unlike you, I would rather spend my time discussing actual issues than saying things like "get your foot out of your mouth" Wow what an argument...

bellyboob, and the other Jaynes supporters on this page, just out of curiosity, I've not once seen you post anything about actual VISD policy or issues facing our school board? It's kind of like arguing with a 4 year old...you would really help out your campaign more if you actually said something about an actual ISSUE. Or maybe not?

I agree apples. I think this format can really be used in a positive way to address some of the important issues surrounding this election. It is a place where people can get real answers from the candidates, not just have to rely on a soundbite from a commercial or a catch phrase from a billboard.

I have really tried to base my decision on the issues and I'm convinced that if we just address the issues, Tammy Keeling will remain on the school board. I personally know both candidates and based my decision on the fact that I agree with what Ms. Keeling has advocated for in her first term. I must admit that I've lost a lot of respect for Dr Jaynes due to his campaigning methods such as screening his patients for votes and using his wife's power over young girls and their parents to have them campaign for him. Any way you spin it, that is just wrong. If you read my previous comments, though, you will find I've based my decision mainly on the issues facing our school system at this time.

I am disturbed by the personal attacks and feel like if we just address the issues, the right candidate will win.

I cannot vote in this election as it is outside of my district. However, I do know several school board members and Dr. Jaynes on a personal level. I am not going to say which candidate I support only that they both have the best interest of our students at heart. A person would have to in order to be willing to go through all of this to serve on a board where they get no compensation, just negative comments from bloggers. Trash talking the candidate you do not support makes your candidate and their respective campaign look bad. Focus on the issues, not personal attacks.

Bellyboob, don't flatter yourself. There is nothing classy about a Navarro parade and annoying door to door drill team girls..a doctor begging patients to vote...not to mention Bernie's crazy loss of control at a school board meeting...How professional is that??

Mr Alvarez, not that I want to help anyone who supports Charlie Jaynes, but being delusional and paranoid won't help your candidate. Just ignore the voices in your head telling you we are all Ms. Keeling.

If you are interested in Ms. Keeling's views, she has a wonderful blog on this website where she has articulated her positions and views very well, unlike her opponent who has not given any specific plan on how he plans to improve our school system. Oh yea, he did say he would walk the halls of our schools...that's what you want school board members doing, walking the halls of your schools. hahaha Maybe while he is visiting his wife. ANd what is he going to do when he sees something he doesn't like? Maybe discipline the students? Fire teachers? Maybe fire the Superintendent...That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

Anyway, if you have questions to ask of Ms. Keeling (releveant ones,not rants about how much you love Mr Klimist and Mr Jaynes) just post them on her blog, I'm sure she will be happy to answer. She is really good at that you know, addressing actual issues about our schools. That's why she has my support.

jessie, give it up. The facts are facts and you are outnumbered by Tami supporters!

You must have been out to lunch, but wait, I was there, I saw it. And of course you were there because you are Tami Keeling. And of course you have this take on it because you have to attack anyone that shows support for Charlie Jaynes. Bernie Klimist is a proven leader and deserves our support and thanks. You are barking up the wrong tree. Those of us that were there saw the dirty politics and yes mam, you were part of it.

Alvarez: First of all, Mr. Klimist nominated himself for president with no one seconding, so maybe it is “obvious” that the board has no confidence in him, rather than Ms Keeling. Secondly, the motion to select Mr. Walden as president was made by Mr. Svetlik and seconded by Mr. Murphy. Instead of respecting Mr. Murphy and the rest of the board, Klimist went on a prolonged tirade that was actually an embarrassment….(if I can’t be pitcher, I’m going to take my ball and go home). To say that there was no discussion of this matter is misleading. There was plenty of discussion, most of which coming from Klimist and Smith. Mr. Murphy correctly pointed out that he was not going to deny a sitting board member the right to vote. As a taxpayer in District 5, I appreciate the representation. Klimist & Co. were in for a no win argument, but couldn’t let it go. Sometimes you have to know when to keep you pie hole closed. You don’t need to speculate about future hard feelings, Mr Klimist has insured that there will be, regardless of the outcome of this election. Do you feel that all of the board members should be neutral during an election or just the president? What’s the difference in publicly stating your position or donating to another’s campaign, whether it is in-kind or monetarily? The only difference I see is that one is willing to go on the record and defend it while the other hides behind the scenes thinking no one is the wiser.

lol fatboy. I would post your question to her blog...I'm not sure how much of this she has time to read. Just a suggestion...I'm kinda curious myself.

sorry Jessie I am not Tammi either. lol.

Tammi if you have time can you please update us ALL on the bldg. progress....(blog ok w/ me)

jessie, hate to break it to you but I am not Tami either. But I am a true Tami supporter! I am a retired father of four children. I have lived here in victoria for over 25 yrs and have seen and heard alot. All my kids went to schools in VISD. Get informed as we did and vote for the right person!

Sorry Jessie, I'm not Tammy. I am a concerned parent of 3 children in VISD who feels like our school district is at a crossroads. I feel like Tammy advocates for all of our children, teachers, and for building a strong school system. I feel like she has been supportive of our Superintendent who has brought on some wonderful changes and I'm excited about the next few years with her on the schoolboard. Do not make any mistake: Tammy Keeling will be reelected because our great community has been made aware of the issues and where which candidate stands. I know Dr. Jaynes personally and have lost all respect for him due to the way he has campaigned. Screening his patients for votes is totally unethical and unprofessional. Using the power his wife has over the drill team members and their parents to have them campaigning for him is also unethical. Most importantly, concerning the issues, I think Dr. Jaynes' purpose for running for this seat is to ensure more power for Bernie Klimist so that they can "deliver" the greatest percentage of the $159 million to their wives' Dance and Drill TEam. Just ask him how important he thinks building a new auditorium where they would be performing is to him. Tammy believes the money we all voted for should be used for our schools, teachers, and students first, and the new auditorium should be built only if there is enough money. I am also concerned about the personal vendetta against our Superintendent because he wisely stopped the filming of the MTV reality show DJ Jaynes wanted her drill team to be on. I do not want them creating a hostile environment for Mr. Moore while all of these great things are happening for our school district.
So see, Jessie, just because I've taken the time to really inform myself about the issues of this election and am truly concerned about the quality of our school system AS A WHOLE, does not mean I'm Tammy Keeling hiding behind a screen name. I am a tax paying parent who feels like it is our right to decide who will be on our children's schoolboard and to express my opinion. I respect yours, but I happen to disagree.
To all of Ms. Keeling's supporters: please keep talking about the REAL issues. Dr. Jaynes may have the support of people who he does business with and who his wife has control over, but Ms. Keeling has the support of the community and, most importantly, parents of children in VISD. Oh and by the way, doesn't Bernie Klimist send his children to private school? Why is he on our board? When is he up for reelection, we need to get him off the board.

Keeling, you need to consider that since Bernie Klimist does not have kids in VISD that he has no agenda. Is it possible for you to consider the fact that he might be just trying to help our kids and the community? Probably not. His wife volunteers tons of time for kids all over Victoria. There is no way he would go through this for a drill team. And, I don't have a posse. I guess I need to get one if you keep this up.

Unless the challenger gets enough votes to defeat the incumbent, the incumbent still holds the schoolboard seat and there is no reason why a vote which was scheduled to be held should be postponed. The only reason Mr Klimist wanted it postponed is because he thought there may be a chance Jaynes would be able to vote for him after another election. If the shoe was on the other foot the sudden burst of ethics you think Mr Klimist was experiencing would not exist. So please don't insult my intelligence by attributing ethics to Klimist based on what happened at the meeting. When is he up for reelection anyway? I plan on campaigning for anyone who runs against him. It's time we took our schoolboard back and made sure those on it are interested in doing what's best for our kids not their own agendas.

jessie, is that the best post possible?? All you did was repeat your previous post. Just like I figured...I guess the truth hurts!

Jessie obviously you don't see the clear picture of politics and what is happening..I know of the rat that you say you smell.. and it is a big one.. Big Bernie. and if you feel that walden is questioning and stalling then maybe he has good reasons to..maybe the rat smell is getting to him!

Ethics should be utmost in the minds of School Board Members. Why did Ray Walden feel compelled to push for a vote for re-election when we don't know who will win? Why did Walden, without taking a breath, call on his good friend Lou Svetlik, immediately, to make the motion for Walden?? Walden gave no other board member a chance to discuss anything. Svetlik was so nervous his hands were shaking so badly he could hardly hold the piece of paper or speak. I don't trust Ray Walden. Walden should never have written the letter to the editor for Keeling when it is obvious that the board does not support her. The president should remain neutral. If Jaynes wins this will create hard feelings on the board. Laura Smith, Estelle DeLos Santos and Klimist were right to insist that they wait. It appeared that Walden tried to force it through because he was scared he would not be elected after the board election. Klimist had a right to be upset. Someone stood up The whole thing smells like a rat. When Klimist was President we got the bond passed, a new superintendent and teachers got a 30% raise. Things moved. With Walden everything has stalled and being questioned. Lets not forget that Walden and Svetlik were the same two who fought for deconsolidation and then did nothing. I believe Walden and Svetlik are ineffective and don't know how to make change.