sickofit you say that you hope people see the type of campaign, and people that are associated with Tammi Keeling. I can see nothing but good downright persons who want a fair and honest candidate who will serve for all students! Your wish is already coming true because the word is spreading. I am beginning to see that as I talk to neighbors, co workers and friends and family. More voters are beginning to realize who is a better candidate. The majority of people that I talk to say that they either support Keeling or have changed their mind about voting for jaynes and will now vote for Keeling. As I have said before I made a grave mistake choosing to vote for jaynes. Thank God that we are given a second opportunity to make the right vote and Vote for Tami!

We've closed this thread and deleted several posts because of personal attacks and off-topic comments. Please remember a school board race is supposed to be about education issues.

Rainwater - what a low life you are! Son-in-law is a great person with a great family. I hope people see the type of campaign, and people that are associated with Tammi Keeling. Please vote for Charlie Jaynes. We do not want people like rainwater and the many other backers of Tammi having an influence over what happens to our children.

I sure hope that soo many other voters change their mind as I did. I really believe that it will happen. I know that Tami will win!

counselor, I absolutely agree...so many questions, darned if he does, darned if he doesn't.

So much conflict of interest I think it's best we leave Tammy Keeling exactly where she is...she's done a great job in the past 3 years, just check what she's actually done rather than bashing her playing tennis (if that's the best they can do...)

Ok, let me get this straight Keeling supporters. First he can’t vote because his wife is a teacher. Now he’s going to vote and sway some sort of preferential treatment to the dance and drill team. How would he ever be able to do that? Can he and Bernie really yield that much power building their wives grandiose auditoriums? Somehow allocating millions to the dance and drill team? Listen to what you are all professing. He wants a better school district. It hasn’t been happening.

ok, I have been reading these comment for weeks. I am going to confess that a month ago I wouldnt have seen things the way I do now. In the election on May 10th I voted for jaynes. I voted for him because I felt that he was a nice family man and I know of several moms who are patients of dr. Jaynes. I will admit that I made a huge mistake and should have voted for Tami Keeling. I wasnt aware of how qualified and experienced Mrs. Keeling is. I certainly did not know about his wife and about his conflict of interest with the drill team. I am so glad that I will have a second chance at this election and make a better voting decision. I will definately vote for Mrs. Keeling on June 14. I am so sure that so many other victorians might have made a mistake as I did by voting for the doctor. It pays to be informed. And it was a mistake that could have won it for her!  Tami,  You now have an extra vote!

apples and darlins: I have personally talked to two drill team mothers who do not support Dr. Jaynes but would NEVER in their wildest dreams dare say so because they know their children would be crucified by their director. These children have invested a lot of time into dancing and this would be disastrous for them. So yes I do believe exactly that and I know what I'm talking about. To any rational adult, this would seem insane, but as it did to me, but unfortunately, that does not make it any less true.

I agree we should move on, but I will continue to respond to attacks by people claiming that I hate the drill team, it's starting to bug me eventhough I understand that people make such unfounded accusations only when they have no relevant argument to make.

Apples, I've really tried to bring up some real issues about this election, but no one seems to respond to that with any real argument.

To imply that parents of drill team members are afraid of what will happen to their daughters if they don't support Dr. Jaynes is ludicrious. A voting booth is a private place and they can choose whomever they please.

I am neither for Dr. Jaynes nor Mrs. Keeling. I do not reside in their district. So do not think I am personally attacking anyone....

I know Dr. Jaynes on a professional level, as a well-respected OB/GYN. I know he puts his patients care on a very high level. As far as his wife or son-in-law, I have no beef with them. I believe DJ is an excellent dance instructor who has given VISD a winning Dance team. I don't care what they call themselves, to me they are winners! I believe that her record as an educator speaks for itself.

As for Mrs. Keeling, I have a great deal of respect for her as a woman, as a parent, and as a member of the School Board. Mrs. Keeling was the only member of that Board who personally called me when I had emailed them in regards to the Dr. Maples fiasco. She was very candid and open and had no problem answering questions if she was legally and ethically able to. Not only did we discuss Dr. Maples, but we addressed a few more of my concerns: The lack of consistency in applying the school district rules on conduct, dress code, etc...; the violence at school; the drugs on the campus..... As a parent with children at MHS, she was empathetic and concerned as well!

If I had to vote, I'm not sure which candidate I would choose. But I do know this: bringing up "ugliness" on both sides isn't right. Mr. Cross's record should be off limits as that is NOT a reflection on Dr. Jaynes. Neither is his wife's position as an educator. Mrs. Keeling never claimed to have raised perfect children nor be a perfect person herself. Anything her son has done isn't a reflection on how capable she is of representing the children and parents of VISD.

Let's continue to stick to FACTS only! And for crying out loud.... keep the Dance and Drill team out of this...... It's old news! Let's move on!

darlins, I did not say anything about voting, my exact words were "SUPPORT". I addressed this in response to soninlaws accusation that I don't like the drill team, which could not be further from the truth.

The bottom line is: I support Tammy Keeling because she will not deliver only for "US", she will advocate for ALL OF OUR CHILDREN. This is not mudslinging, it is an opinion that I am allowed to have as a voting taxpayer of our community.

If you're familiar with politics, you know that if one special interest group supports you, it is because you will deliver for "THEM" once you have been elected. I don't understand why bringing up this issue strikes such a nerve with people who support Dr. Jaynes. I believe it is a legitimate concern for peple who are not part of the "US" Dr. Jaynes wants to deliver for.

I want a candidate who will deliver for "ALL" as I believe Tammy Keeling will, not only the elite "US". After all, we ALL have to live in this community and it is in our best interest for "ALL" children to have the best education afforded to them. The more uneducated children we have in our community, the more we will all have to look over our shoulder in fear of being robbed, murdered or whatever else uneducated children grow up to do.

I will continue to post on these threads because I have become very irate that every time an actual issue is brought up, people get on here crying about how you must hate Dr. Jaynes, his family, the drill team. I don't see any relevant arguments being posted.

As far as stating unsubstantiated information as fact goes: Tammy Keeling DID attend school board meetings years before her run for the position she now holds. Check your facts.

I figure this thread will soon be locked due to all the unsubstantiated fact, rumor and innuendo.... (SIGH) All of you, with just a few exceptions, need to be ashamed of yourselves for all of this "trashing of the other candidate".... Keeling supporters and Jaynes supporters alike have done nothing but point fingers, name call, mudsling and speculate.... I'll be glad when this election is over and we can then concentrate on what's most important: giving our children the best  education as is possible!
Icandoitall - do you HONESTLY believe that if the parents of members of the drill team DON'T vote for Dr. Jaynes, those kids will be punished.... And HOW would ANY one find out who voted for who???? The ballots are cast in a confidential manner. There is NO way to see who voted for whom. Give me a break!!!!Let's stick to the facts! Let's stop the mudslinging!

Insanity once again you got it wrong! Tami Keeling has been involved well before she got on the school board with PTOs, on discipline committes, etc. She attended board meetings for years before she was elected to District 5, go check the record yourself! The board with the help of the superintendent identifies problems and then appoints committees to look at issues. A report is brought to the board so questions can be asked and action can be taken.
I don't know about you but I WOULD NOT like a board member on a committee directing what happened.
And by the way has Dr. Jaynes ever served on a discipline committee since he is so concerned about his 4 GRANDCHILDREN. I have not heard him mention the other children in district 5 or how about all the children in our community!
It feels elitist, refering to the audiance at a recent banquet as "YOU PEOPLE", and please it feels like US is those that can bank roll his campaign - doctors, lawyers and others, the drill team. The drill team is an elite organiztion yes those girls work hard but you have to have money or borrow it to belong. Does the booster club give scholarships for girls who CANNOT afford uniforms, trips, etc?
Dr. Jaynes has not mentioned the budget as his son-in-law alluded to, which makes me wonder what kind of steward he will be with our money. Considering that he asked for extended voting hours during the early election. Extended hours on Saturday and Sunday costs us money so his friends can go vote! I guess they are way too busy during regular hours to go vote like the rest of us. Hey Dr. Jaynes why are you spending our tax dollars like there is NO tommorrow. I think you got some really bad advise from your paid campign manager!! Yep throw those dollars away that could be used to implement programs on DISCIPLINE for ALL our children!!!!!
My goodness Dr. Jaynes why don't you just come out an answer these questions, I think the public wants to know from YOU!

Bob the Builder is living up to his nickname...shaming the community into voting a bond issue that will be paid on the backs of our children and grandchildren and all for naught.

It is a fact that some of the best educational experiences were received in former days in one room school houses with teachers that actually taught....and were allowed to teach. That is not the case in this day and age.

Ms. Keeling has more than showed her nether parts in this campaign and her friends or relatives who have suddenly appeared to post and post and post again have made even more clear who my vote will be for.

Charlie Jaynes is the ONLY man for the job....the only one that will hold those accountable who need to be held accountable and perhaps give some organization and effective leadership to the board.

soninlaw, I see why you are upset, I don't think a candidate's family should be brought into an election because it has nothing to do with the issues. YOur father in law's supporters were doing the same thing when they call Ms. Keeling names and talk about her son. I guess you missed those posts, of course.

you can take it personal when people don't support your father in law for this particular position, but it's not a good idea, it will really get to you eventually.

I don't appreciate you attacking me personally by saying I don't like the drill team...I know many of the wonderful young ladies and their parents and if you look back at my posts, I have never, not once said anything negative about them.

IF you look back you will see my problem is with the way your mother in law has used her power over those girls who work so hard to be on that drill team and please her. I have talked to a couple of drill team mothers who feel like they have no choice but to support Dr. Jaynes, because if they don't, guess what happens to their child who has worked so hard.

I am a concerned parent who has worked hard to inform myself on the issues and has never attacked anyone personally. I feel I have a responsibility to my children who attend VISD to do so.

I'm really sorry you take that personally.

I actually know you also and think you and your wife are pretty nice.

Ryan - I think your letter was great! Charlie Jaynes does not "dislike" or "not support" Bob Moore. I also do not believe that his intentions on the board are to only protect his wife and the dril team. He has four grandsons that are NOT going to be on the drill team, they will play sports, join organizations and hope to go to college one day. He is running for school board to make VISD safer for every student, faculty member, and parent. He is trying to rebuild this school system - Tami was not involved with the school district before she ran in 2005. Charlie has been seated on many boards conserning the school district and will continue doing so in the future. He is a bright man who has raised great children and built an amazing family. Why you all believe he has not had a clean campaign is beyond me. Why you are associating his supporters comments to his direct beliefs is also a concern of mine. If that is the case... then each one of you are stating that TAMI KEELING HATES THE DRILL TEAM AND DJ JAYNES. Give me a break. That would also mean that Tami Keeling is not running her campaign for "every" student. Please stop this nastiness - Dr. Jaynes is not doing this for his wife, and not for the drill team. These people do not need his support - He is doing it for HIS grandchildren and all of their classmates.  If this was all about DJ/ drill team he would personally pay for her to have her own gym and start her own private drill team company. Then MTV could come back and would probably have an even better television show. DJ does not need Charlie for her career. She is supported by more people than you would ever know and could do this all on her own! It's not like VISD financially supports the dance team. Charlie's grandchildren are the light of his life and the wakes up every morning. He is running for THEM or else he would have ran many years ago. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE - stick to the facts and give it up already. While you are wasting your time away please visit www.drcharliejaynes.com - it is a website he designed so each and every one of you can direct your questions, comments and concerns to him personally. He will answer you personally from that website. I am happy to see that he has enough class to not settle with the negativity that surrounds these posts.

First of all, Rainwater- My "record" is from a fight that happened in high school. Since then I have spent eight years in the worlds finest military, graduated from college, and I am raising a wonderful family. So you can dig all you want, Keep up the great work. Icandoitall- your blogs are all full of opinion it is easy to see that you are just another person that does not like the drill team so you focus on that, Have fun. Smidgeon- watch your mouth when your talking about my "bad" kids. If you want to see them look in the paper, my oldest was in there for national junior honor society and all of them for being on the honor roll. Pretty bad arent they.
You can continue to come on this and waste your time trashing other people for your own pleasure, but you continueing to support your candidate in a negative way just helps us out. Keep up the great work. See you at the PARADE!

also, what you seem to suggest that we should replace Ms. Keeling with Jaynes so that he can sit on the board and do the same thing she does? All things equal, I would rather stick with the course we've already voted for, at least I'll know what to expect. I'm excited about the changes I've seen in the recent year or two and although I get impatient, these things cannot be accomplished over night. We didn't get into this mess overnight.

All things are not equal though, considering the conflict of interest Dr. Jaynes has and considering he does not advocate for a change in the discipline model or a more strict dress code. Another reason we want to keep Ms. Keeling on the school board.

insanity, I apologize, I thought this forum was used for expression of individual thoughts and ideas...my mistake. I preference my statements with "I THINK" to indicate this is only MY OPINION and not fact.

I believe the exact words I heard were "change in administration". Last time I checked, the Superintendent was a big chunk of administration. Did you expect Dr. Jaynes to come out and publicly badmouth the Superintendent? Or did you expect him to come out with a public agenda of running to benefit his wife's dance and drill team? How many of those 581 votes do you think he would have?

"I THINK" that is quite naive.

People with common sense can identify conflict of interest when they see it and draw their judgment based on that common sense. It does not take a genius to figure it out, only a concerned parent who informs themselves about what it going on in our schools.

I decided on the candidate I would support based NOT ONLY on what they say, but also on what I know goes on in our schools and what I observed during this campaign. Many people seem to have made their decisions based on their personal feelings about the candidates, for example, you, insanity, seem to have a problem with the fact that Ms. Keeling likes tennis. I, on the other hand am more concerned that the $159 million our community voted for is utilized in a way which will benefit our school system as a whole.

"I THINK" Ms. Keeling is the best candidate for the job and that's why I support her.

icandoitall,

When you preference your statements with "I Think" maybe you should keep those comments to yourself. That is your opinion. Unless you ask Dr. Jaynes what the "us" means, you don't know. Dr. Jaynes has stated more times than I can count that his campaign is not about the drill team. I believe him, and 581 people, soon to be a lot more believe him as well.

oldraider,
Can you please inform me as to wne Dr. Jaynes said he did not support Bob Moore. I have never heard him speak those words. He is not responsible for what is written on these blogs.
This is just an interesting thought for me----Mrs. Keeling was not involved in the educational system before her election to the board in 2005. She played tennis. All board members are required by law to attend training. Dr. Jaynes will have training as well when he is elected. Tami is no more qualified than any other board member that sits on VISD's board. Ms. Keeling is not a member of the discipline committee, she just listens and takes actions on their committee reports when presented at the board meetings, just as Dr. Jaynes will and all the other 6 board members will do.
Dr. Jaynes has not said a negative word about Mr. Moore, the current administration, or the school board members, including Tami Keeling. He is running a clean campaign and will continue to do so despite all the attacks he gets from all sides.

flier, I think the "US" he is referring to in the billboard is the Dance and Drill team and his wife...He will definitely deliver for them, but what about the rest of our kids?

That was a fine letter by Mr. Cross....I am sure Mrs. Cross had an easy time writing it.  My question to the forum, is how can a man "deliver" when he does not support Mr. Moore?  How can he really think that he can be the difference when he is busy verbally tearing down what Mr. Moore is trying to build?  Bob Moore is doing the job we hired him for and to say that statement, I would have to say is pretty bold considering the lack of leadership we have had in VISD in the last superintendents.  Dr. Jaynes is in this for his wife, he is in this to be HER voice because as I have previously stated, nobody else wants to listen to DJ.  It gets tiring to hear the same swan song about the glory days of her drill team.  Her current success is not because of the name....either way the Memorial Dance and Drill Team has worked hard on their own merit and not the merit of "victoriadore" lore.
My bottom line is this...BE VOTE NUMBER 582 and let's keep Tami Keeling where she belongs!!

busymom, I couldn't agree more: what we see in our schools today is pretty scary. I was literally afraid to send my son to 9th grade, I couldn't sleep for two nights when the school year started.

That is only one of the reasons I decided to support Tammy Keeling: she sees that what we have in place is not working and wants to change it. The new discipline model with clear consequences, the uniform dress code...

Dr. Jaynes on the other hand wants to enforce the existing rules...because they're working so well, right?

Also, he does not support our Superintendent Bob Moore, Dr. Jaynes supporters constantly bash him and refer to him by degrading names. Ms. Keeling does.

Building the new schools will be a pivotal point in building a better school system. You cannot tell me it's better for our students to be in ancient overcrowded buildings than it is to be in newer smaller schools. This is another reason I support Keeling.

Everyone please get out there and vote!!!! This election is very important not only for our kids futures but for what kind of community we all have to live in.

Dr. Jaynes is a great guy, I would have him deliver my kids because I trust his judgment as an MD, but he is wrong on these issues. Ms. Keeling is a much better informed candidate when it comes to VISD.

Just look at her credentials. Not her professional ones, but the ones pertaining to education and school board work. She has my vote!

Do we need to be delivered??? Are you kidding me??? We have gangs running our schools. School dances (jr high) that look and sound like what I can only describe as soft porn. Teachers that have their hands tied because the behavior is so bad that they cannot even start class with this new 7 period system. All I can say is that I can not wait until the new schools are built, it will take care of the understaffing problem, overcrowded classrooms, each child may have a chance to get a proper education. I thought I was seeing things when I read the post about our perfect school system this morning!!!! By the way, I hope that DJ will not be a puppet master if her hubby does get elected. I have been under his care HE is a really great guy...... but I hope he can stand up to the wifey.....yikes!!!!

rainwater do you have kids in VISD?

You asked a question and I answered it. No!I am not a personal friend of Dr,
Charlie Jayne's, now i have worked close with him while employed by De tar for 9
years. Thats about it. He is a great family man, great person and a awesome
father. He has my vote!

rainwater! Listen Bill Blanchard is for Jayne's, now his wife on the other hand is
for Tammi. Does that help your curiosity.

I cannot figure out what Dr. Jaynes is going to DELIVER? Like "we" need to be delivered out of something? What has Mrs. Keeling done wrong? I cannot figure that out either?

Face it, it feels like he has a huge special interest and it is not teachers, kids, or our community at large.

It is hard to stomach when he addresses a club and refers to the group, as "YOU PEOPLE" is a real PUT DOWN!!!

Clearly we will never agree but I think people need to get there heads out of the sand and look at the facts! Hey the fact this is a political race like it or not and you bet if you run for an office sometimes things happen - like family gets dragged in. Is it right maybe not, but Mrs. Keeling HAS NOT attacked his family or his character, and the rumors the Jaynes camp are spreading are not true.

He does not have a CLEAN campaign like you are making him out to have, get real!!!!!