Obviously you are not up to date on female contraceptives. There are monthly shots, patches, some kind of vaginal ring & there was norplant, dunno if it's still around, some groups were screaming about "genocide". I seriously doubt the majority of abortions being performed are on people who were using reliable birth control.

ok, the reasons you stated for the pill are things tht can be corrected with research and development. why not come up with a pill in which you'd only have to take once every month, sounds like a great idea doesnt it? why not perfect the performance of some of the current pill we already have so tht they can bypass the other meds tht cancel out their effects? as for men who dont wanna use a condom, i have an idea, why not come up with a pill for men? something tht will lower the sperm count of the body. take it as much as needed, such as for sex with random partners, take it if you and your spouse arent ready for kids just yet but still need wear out the springs of your mattress. and when you are ready for kids, stop taking it, like about month in advance and start the baby making process. thts a great idea, reduces both abortions and unwanted pregnancies in one fell swoop. see these are things that we can correct, we just have to look at the possibilities.

How do people screw up taking the pill? They forget to take it regularly for starters. There are also other medications such as antibiotics that render the pill ineffective, they are told but some ignore the warnings. Condoms, I guess the egos out there thinking size matters & they don't stay put, I guess age may matter, etc. Why take chances though, if a person will choose abortion if their b/c fails, then just snip snip & be done. No more worries.

you're not answering my question, vbb. you say tht people "screw up" the pill and the use of condoms. how do they screw it up? explain tht one to me, and whats more, why pay for an expensive procedure to prevent the chance of unwanted pregancies, when we already have affordable methods available to us, such as the pill and condom?

The problem with the pill, condoms etc is the human factor. People screw it up. Why not just have your tubes tied if you don't want kids? If you would have an abortion or several, why not save all the grief & just have yourself neutered instead of killing your baby? Sheez, I'd pay for that.

ok i have a huge question for the pro lifers, we have a solution for abortion, its called birth control. there have been some comments on the other thread including tht it doesnt work, causes harm to the woman, ect. well tht may be true and all, but tht only means that we need to try and improve the formula and make it work a little bit better. i guess what my is here, wht is wrng with birth control? and if there is something wrong with it, then why not make it better?

A fetus younger than 9 months can survive on its own as long as it's not murdered on the way out. I watched the video of my grandbaby in the womb sucking her thumb, hiccupping, sticking out her tongue, responding to music & talking. How can you say thats not a person?

I thought you had mentioned dialysis a while ago.

Sterilization is a good idea, beats the hell out of birth control via abortion.

Why would anyone want their tax dollars supporting this choice?

ok 3 things:legion: we're not sterializing anyone, we're just expanding safe sex practices and options. anti abortion activists dont want abortion, but a woman shouldnt be forced to have a baby she shouldnt want. solution: more research on the pill, making a better condom, providing emergency contraception for rape victims, so they wont have to have their rapist's child. there are medical alternatives to abortion, but the religious right are just going to have to step back and let the research begin. it may compromise their little morals, but the it has to be done.
vbb: you've got me wondering, when did i ever say anything about dyalisysis?
vbb: in response to, "The killing of an innocent baby makes you shrug your shoulders, huh? Whatever, as long as it pisses off the church? Your a stand up guy." no i dont condone the killing of children, if i saw someone killing a child, id kill them. however, when it's inside of a womb, its not alive. it can't think, breath, see, hear, or smell. it depends solely on the mother. if the mother dies, then the child dies. its as simple as that. until the nine months are up, tht child is apart of the mother. and as such, it should be within her sole descretion to do as she pleases. now i will concede, that most woman probably wont choose abortion, especially when they're about to pop. but if the process is just beginning, and she isnt financially and emotionally ready to care for it, she shouldnt be forced to have it. this is what birth control is for, this is why research should be devoting into safe sex practices.on a side note: it's fun to piss off the church, you should try it sometime.

Expand to what?

Sterilise everyone that is deemed not worthy of reproducing?

The killing of an innocent baby makes you shrug your shoulders, huh? Whatever, as long as it pisses off the church? Your a stand up guy.

Back to dialysis in old people, which I believe is near & dear to you.....when Obama passes his comprhensive health care reform & people are excluded from certain procedures due to cost vs benefit & you find your family member on the losing side of that arguement, think about how you are crowing now about how our tax dollars are being wasted on something that only the minority of the population are for. Tax dollars that could desperately be used towards life sustaining treatments.

Does anyone seriously think abortion is going to be hugely popular in Mexico, whose population is like 99.9% Catholic? There is a reason abortions aren't available in Mexico & it doesn't have much to do with us withholding tax dollars from them. Again, HUGE waste of our tax dollars.

well look, i honestly dont care about abortion, I feel that there much more important things to worry about. i expressed tht in an earlier post, i side with choice, bc i feel that a woman should have a right to with her body as she pleases as long as it falls within the basic boundaries of the law, example: no drug use. but i also feel that we should be devoting more research into safer sex, ways to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, we already have the condom and birth control, lets expand.

rg201508,

Party on if you think it is such a good thing.

Comrades unite, yeah right.

Hmmmm...maybe the needed tax funds for the abortions will come from the funding of dialysis for those on disability.

Anyone that is so happy that our tax dollars will be used to kill babies in foreign countries that they post an in your face comment has deep mental problems.

you can get mad all you want about it, but this remains the same:

pro choice: 1

pro life(aka the church which i hate with a passion): zip

now if we could just devote some of those dollars into research and development for protected sex and ways to reduce pregnancies, we'll be in business.

This mans priorities are beyond screwed up.

Rg, can't wait to laugh in your face when he goes after something that hits close to your home. Don't worry, it will happen.

well pro life supporters, it looks like your worse fears have been realized. simply follow the link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/a...

all i can say is bawahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!! IN YOUR FACE!!!

Thank you wolfin for posting that clarification. I thought I remember that rumor being debunked but wasn't 100% positive. Now to add insult to injury....BigJs comment needs to be deleted as it was stating not merely unsubstantiated information, but false, untrue, debunked information as fact. BigJ you need to get your facts straight & quit posting lies. It shows your true colors, just bashing whitey again while you try to disguise it as showing us a racists.

Where did I refuse to admit the inappropriate of a crowd? Don’t assume too much, VBB. What about the crowd at the Sarah Palin rally when they were yelling “kill him kill him“.?

The "killhim kill him" incident never happened. http://www.timesleader.com/news/break...

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck...
http://mediamatters.org/columns/20090...
or if you want a more reliable(?) source
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/us/...

It seems to me that this inauguration was a bargain compared to Bush's inauguration in 2005.
2005 inauguration had 400,000 attendees and cost according to NY Times around 157 million dollars. (about $392 per person)
2009 inauguration had 2,000,000 attendees and cost 170 million. (around $85 per person)

Mike,
I'm not trying to start an argument and I'm not a math major but your numbers don't add up. 45-mil plus 49-mil plus 700K (make it an even mil) and you get 95-mil. Should I be using new math? According to the Today Show, (NBC-ultra left wing reference here) 45-mil from private donations, 100-mil from taxpayers. Seems like they could have stopped at 45-mil. That's about what Bush spent. If they were consistent they would have spent 33-mil, same as Clintons, they're doing everything else just like the Clintons.

I saw all the trash & discarded American flags left behind after the revelers took leave, on the news today. It was a disgusting eyesore. You would think the "environmentally sensitive" crowd would have thought about how to better discard their waste.

Not at all

$150-170 million -- Estimated cost of entire inauguration activities, from the parades and galas to the port-a-potties and streamers.

$45 million (or more) -- Budget of Presidential Inaugural Committee. The committee is a bipartisan team created in November to organize the inaugural festivities.

All of this money comes from private donations. The committee does not accept money from corporations or lobbyists and individual donors cannot give more than $50,000. (In past inaugurations, contributions could run as high as $250,000.)

The Presidential Inaugural Committee is responsible for Tuesday's inaugural parade, the 10 official inaugural balls and Sunday's concert at the Lincoln Memorial. The committee also paid the Smithsonian $700,000 to stay open longer during the activities.

$49 million -- Total cost of inauguration to the federal government (according to the Office of Management and Budget.) This includes a $15 million appropriation to the District of Columbia to help pay for the inauguration expenses and to pay for Secret Service during the inaugural ceremony and military personnel for

I am shocked at the number of post that are totally off subject.
In my opinion the inaugration just represent once again what is wrong with this country, to much of others people money is being spent for the pleasure/partying of a select few.
$120 million is more money than the entire city budgets of many cities the Victoria Advocate covers. This money could have been better spent. But I guess many people believe only the rich paid for it. Right

I was under the impression that the title of FBP (first black president) belonged to Clinton.

I think some credit towards his "white" culture is due. He probabaly will do a great job as president, but he really isn't the first "black" president.

Metaphorically speaking

"LOl.... Riverboat I know what you mean,wives keeps us humble." There ya go Mike.

Hictoria said
"That is because you let them Mike. ;)"

I let whom,why, and when?

That is because you let them Mike. ;)

Obama will be remembered only for being the first president with a different skin color. Other than that, he is just like all the rest of them. He has no "special powers"; he eats, sleeps, and poops just like the rest of us. He will amount to less than the previous presidents IMO. He will never be like a Reagan. He is nothing but a puppet on a string.

LOl.... Riverboat I know what you mean,wives keeps us humble.

I hope the president keeps getting input from the opposition party and continues to dine with George Will,David Brooks and other conservative columnists because I am sure we want positive results,no matter where it comes from....Did I just write that?....Have a good one.

Mike, thank you for the compliment. I might consider myself fairly intelligent, but my wife reminds me from time to time that I'm lacking a few cogs in the machinery.

Anyway, you can be sure I'm not so naive as to think that nominees don't have preconceived notions. If they didn't, they'd be nothing but empty suits. I just wish both parties would quit acting otherwise.

Hello Riverboat
You have taken my quotes out of context.

I mentioned the polls numbers attributed to Bush/Cheney to explain the sigh of relief that administration is gone….Historically the numbers for congress have always been low because people like their congressman but they do not like congress….Having said that the democratic congress deserves the low ratings but since 2006 it is apparent to me that the people trust them more with this economy….As you well know Bush/Cheney are rated individually and the poll for congress is on 535 members…I know the right is clinging to those numbers but Republicans are included even thou they are not the majority.

I take your point on fraternities and organizations in the spirit it was given. That inclusion goes both ways. I reiterate that the intentions of Hispanic or African Chamber of Commerce were not set up as a tool for racial divide. I would be willing to say the same thing about the other organizations I mentioned.

As for the Supreme Court justices; I hope any judge will uphold the Constitution when it comes to all issues.

Riverboat, we are the opposite side of the political spectrum and I think you are an intelligent man but despite our differences you know a Republican president will nominate a conservative and a Democrat a liberal. The court is 5-4 now with Justice Anthony Kennedy holding the swing vote. I hope you do not fall for the idea that the judges come in without a preconceived ideology.

Justice Stevens and Ginsberg will probably retire in the next four years and it should not be a surprise as to what type of judge President Obama will nominate…I have mentioned it several times the 2008 elections was about the Supreme Court justices.

Gay-marriage and other social issues are not the only things on the agenda because it is also about equal pay for women, abolisihing tortue, restoring civil liberities, and retaining workers rights.

Mike - "According to the latest Gallup Poll and NBC/Wall Street Bush left office with 22% approval and Cheney @ 13% so the 1.8 million who waved goodbye was probably having a sigh of relief along with an appropriate song."
Fair enough. When do we get to taunt Congress with the same tune? Its ratings are even lower than Bush's, according to a 2008 Gallup poll. I don't need to remind you that that Congress has a Democratic majority, do I?
More Mike - "The African-American and the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce is no different than the Elks Club,Optimist, or Knights of Columbus of old...It's all networking.

"Next people will want to ban fraternities in the name of unity."
You bring up an issue I'd like to address. The existence of numerous clubs and fraternities and organizations was noted by Tocqueville which are protected by the First Amendment as peaceable assembleys. More to the point, they are free to choose who gets to be a member. That is, they discriminated who gets to belong. No problem, right? After all, does the NAACP really want someone among their ranks who is an avowed white racist?
So far, so good. Until it comes to the Boy Scouts of America. In Dale v BSA, the Scouts won by a SINGLE vote - 5-4 - to retain the right to disallow avowed homosexuals from being members or leaders within the Scouts. I'd disturbed that the vote wasn't unanimous, but a win is a win. Now, if we're to maintain any semblance of Constitutional rights, we must just pray that Obama will choose Supreme Court candidates who will uphold the Constitution, not amend it by fiat.

BigJ, as I no longer reside in the crossroads area, I cannot answer your questions. I did not vote for Cornyn, I voted for the Libertarian. As far as Rick Perry is concerned, I guess the Dems did not run a valid candidate. I did not vote that election, if I remember correctly.
Yes there has been disagreements & unrest since the 60's, greater good was the key phrase though. The unrest in the 60's was for greater good, codepink, moveon.org, et all NOT for greater good but personal agendas. There is also a huge difference between unrest & outright hostility & mockery.
You are anti-war, yet Hilarry voted for it twice as did Biden & you support both of them. Both sides of your mouth BigJ.

Not to the extreme codepink, moveon.org, MSM & others took it. They made a mockery of our President to suit their own personal agendas, it had nothing to do with our collective greater good.

>>opened the door of open hostility & disrespect of the office of the President of the USA<<

I believe that door has been opened many times over many years, by both parties

I wish, I hope, one poster that calls itself trueomniscience sees that video. Yes, I use the term "itself" for a reason.

Awesome link catholic girl.
You nailed it VBB.

catholicgirl,

cool video. obama should see it. maybe he'll think twice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2CaBR...

What you partisan Dems need to understand is y'all are the ones who opened the door of open hostility & disrespect of the office of the President of the USA. All the protests & grandstanding every chance you got, Code Pink, moveon.org, random celebrities, Cindy Sheehan, etc. Now you must live with any & all actions made in that fashion towards Obama. Open disrespect was started by your people, so what is good for the goose, is just as good for the gander. I know, I for one, am not going to sit back and allow this man to force his views & beliefs upon me if they are a direct contradiction of our countries Constitution & my own personal beliefs. Too bad, so sad if you don't like it. Nobody died & made your person king or God. I hope he is worthy of all the hype, but I'm not going to blindly believe it.

Just a little housekeeping for something written below. “Obama the Magic Negro” was started from an article in the LA Times. March 19th 2007 by David Ehrenstein.

I have no idea what BigJ is trying to convey here. I'll try and find out.
BigJ,
Are you of the mind-set that certain groups, i.e. Black/Hispanic CoC et al, are not segregationist? I think I already read that you support affirmative action, which is the ultimate racist policy that should make every so-called minority want to throw up.

Obviously it's working, though not a mean feat by any stretch of the imagination.

I was treading lightly, attempting to avoid the delete squad & that was the only way I could come up with to rephrase that cliche. Use it in good health! : )

BWAHAHAHA,

A few post toasties floating in a questionable liquid?
Did you make that up? I'm warning you now, I may use it sometime.

If you would read, I stated that I know many black Catholics as well as a huge population of Hispanic Catholics. Therefore, there isn't segregation via religion. The priest at my church was African for goodness sake! Because you fail to acknowledge that my statement is correct you instead call me a liar & stupid.

You never admitted it was inappropriate, I was making a point. You are quick to judge others supposed condonement of behaviors as there true color, so I am painting you with your own brush. Did I ever say I agreed or approved of those peoples comments? I don't actually know if I believe it actually happened, it could have been good editing. I wasn't there so I don't honestly know. I am aware of Obama supporters making hateful remarks about McCain as well, I just don't feel the need to keep dredging it up. If you can'tunderstand that, then it's not my fault.

Considering you still haven't admitted it was disrespectful & inappropriate, I will take your silence on the matter to mean you have no issues with the crowds behavior.

I know many black Catholics & most Hispanics are Catholic, don't understand the point about the K of C. You people are grasping at straws to justify certain people keeping themselves segregated when it suits their purpose.

Mike, I sense quite a bit of sour grapes & a few post toasties floating in a questionable liquid, from the victors.

No, Mike. I fully expected the Dems to beat the weak candidate, Bush on your third time around.

May I add, you Dems and your press' overly dramatic contrived Great Depression of 2008 is shameful. 1980 comes to mind as much worse.

Bighorn
Did you have a big sour grape sandwich for supper?

Screw 'em! They showed contempt, hatred, and total disregard for Bush from the moment he took office. Piss poor winners and even crappier losers.

We "right wing extremists" show a helluva lot more respect for law and legal office holders than the least of the shitbirds on the left.

They have their day. Give it to them. As for producitve Americans, we are expecting the worse, hoping for the best.

I'm starting to think Obama may be more intelligent than his campaign rhetoric illustrated. Look at his backing down from earlier promises on Day One. Or would that be called "clueless"? Or lying?

Comrades,
Settle down and respect our new leader.

Mimi
I made the Knights of Columbus reference to make my point that racial divide was not the intent of the Hispanic or African-American Chamber of Commerce.It was just a bad idea that never panned out..Disbanning them will not make one iota
...It has been said that America is more segregated on Sunday morning with its white ,black, and Hispanic churces...Not cynical just a matter of habit and convenience..
Then again that is just my opinion but what do I know ,I am just part of that collective stupidly that voted for Obama...lol

Interesting topic with lots of interesting thoughts... Here are a few of my own:
Michelle Obama - When she stated she'd never in her adult life been proud of her country, maybe she had her reasons for feeling that way. She didn't say she hated the country, just that she'd never been proud of the nation that enslaved her ancestors, then discriminated against them, and treated them like a plague...

Knights of Columbus -- as far as I know, the K of C is a Catholic Fraternity... Haven't googled it yet, but maybe someone on this forum would know.

Obama - 1/2 black, 1/2 white - Not TOO many generations ago, even if one was 1/4 African American, it was enough to consider them BLACK, regardless of their skin tone... and therefore prohibit them from sitting in the white folks section of the bus/theatre/courthouse, etc... Therefore, it's reasonable to assume that Mr. Obama states his race/nationality as African-American. Because the last time I looked, there was no box to check that said "Bi-racial".

And for what it's worth, Mrs. Obama DOES remind me of Mrs. Kennedy. It is her proud and regal bearing that does so. And there were people who misunderstood Jackie's shyness and contributed it to snobbery.....

I liked the picture of The President and 1st Lady dancing on the Seal of the POTUS!

The crowds display towards President Bush & VP Cheney was disrespectful & inappropriate, of course you will NEVER admit that. Bad winners is way worse than sore losers & the combo of the two is disgusting.

He didn't say it made him a bad president. It does show he is flawed.

I'm confused about why we are all supposed to embrace Obama & stand behind him 100% when the Dems criticized Bush from day one & for 8 long years. Obama is going to have to earn my loyalty & respect.

I am skeptical about his economic ideas/tax plans. I'm not sure I am going to like the sacrifice he has in mind for me & my family. The Middle East, energy & how he is handling the Guantanamo detainees has me concerned as well. His first action as President wasn't anything that benefitted us Americans but the accused foreign terrorist detainees. It was akin to a slap in the face. If this is a snapshot of things to come, I'm not a fan.

I like how any non ecstatic comment about Obama makes the person petty & nit picky, but the Dems can bash away all day & it's okay.

Hes is half white and half black. Deal with that. He is not a full blood African American.

His father was from Kenya (located on the continent known to us as Africa).
His mother was American (born in Kansas)
Barack Obama is TRULY African American.

And if you want to pick nits -- the oath of office has been given more than 44 times.Some presidents served more than one term.

I think Obama's inauguration went OK. He stumbled a bit but made it through. The poem sucked. I think Obama is a two faced person. He is just like the rest of the politicians. He has ties to untrustworthy people and is married to someone who is a racist IMO. His wife makes me want to puke with her ridiculous atire. I do not believe he can &quot;change&quot; anything. Well, I take that back... He will leave you with just that... pocket &quot;change&quot;.

oops! that was said rather badly wasn't it - you are right it is a religion

The fact that Grover Cleveland served two non-consecutive terms makes Obama a bad president...Gonna be a long 4 years with nitpicking like that.

Muslim blood? It's a religion....lol

Some notes from inauguration speech: 1) He said 44 people have taken the oath of president - WRONG - the oath has been given 44 times, but 44 different people did not take it. 2) He was very specific about being raised by his WHITE GRANDMOTHER, now he is only black? 3) Race became an issue when HE made it one and now all we hear is our first African American president - so he is African American now? I though he had anglo and muslim blood also. Thse are just a few observations about this new person that does everything but walk on water (of course he may do that too and I just have not heard about it).

Mike, the booing & the song were disrespectful & inappropriate. It goes to character & shows Dems as bad winners, we already knew they were sore losers, see the last 8 yrs.

The Elks club doesn't only consist of one race of people as the Hispanic Chamber & the African American Chamber. The Chamber of Commerce doesn't only consist of white people, all CoC should integrate & act as one for the benefit of the city they are representing.

The African-American and the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce is no different than the Elks Club,Optimist, or Knights of Columbus of old...It's all networking.

Next people will want to ban fraternities in the name of unity.

Those are the arguments of 2008.

According to the latest Gallup Poll and NBC/Wall Street Bush left office with 22% approval and Cheney @ 13% so the 1.8 million who waved goodbye was probably&nbsp; having a sigh of relief along with an appropriate song.
While it is true Obama has not yet earned anything;George W. Bush earned that 22% approval.

Oilman and BigJ

I was told Victoria's Hispanic Chamber of Commerce and the Victoria Chamber of Commerce merged into one Chamber and I was told the goal was to also merge the African American Chamber, so Victoria could have a unified Chamber, and they would represent all of Victoria, not just certain ethnic groups. Have either of you heard of this AND how do you feel about it (being merged).

Dohbama said
“Mike should not be surprised”
Surprised is a felling or expression or astonishment felt by an individual, so how can it be questioned? I do not hold any claims of any special knowledge of conservatism or liberalism for that matter…I have said ideology is not instant creditability as some people think it is. I did not know you were the selected spokesman for conservatives since you said “It was not our intention to blast the president of the United States simply because he was not our choice.”

I was born and raised in Victoria, I worked in the community and I have looked at the exit polling results and my feelings came from my perception…Nothing else.

BTW Just for your information Gore won the popular votes by 600,000 votes…Not that it matters but you did say “The majority of the voting public voted for Bush both times he ran for POTUS.”

I think that President Obama fully intends to do his best to fulfill his campaign promises. Unfortunately, he will be met with resistance from evey side; Dems and Reps. Not everyone is going to like what he proposes.

But over all, I am very optimistic. I am hoping he will do a great job.

I did not vote for him, but he is now the 44th President of the US, and therefore I will support him.

I can't help but compare Obama's Presidency with that of JFK's... why? Maybe it's the fact that Obama is so young.

I cannot see Mr. Obama strictly in the terms of "a black president".... yes, it's momumental that he is the first President of mixed race, but he is a man just like all men.

If you are old enough to remember, lots of people were upset that Jack Kennedy was elected, because he was the first "Catholic" president....

Let's give him a chance.

I was also inspired at the poise and grace with which both Laura Bush and Michelle Obama conducted themselves over recent days.... How I wish there were more young ladies in this world who acted as such!

I think you can drop hispanic off that list.

My point is we will never be "one people" if we have all these groups or programs for one race or another.

Agreed on the AA point that is was not only for minorities.
I still can't see that whites benifited more from It.
As to the question of who is the minority in Victoria???

BigJ,Who do you think the minority is in Victoria??? Besides maybe you are older than I am but in my working career I have not seen any &quot;minority&quot; not get a job or not get the promotion because of race. Maybe the other way around.If you can tell me how the white population benifited from AA please inform me.

Well, on the question of the inauguration itself, everything went hunky-dory. Clear blue skies, but - Whoo-doggies! - cold as a brass toilet seat!

Lots of dignitaries were moved in and about like a well-oiled machine. The big moment came with the oath of office which Chief Justice Roberts stumbled over. Did someone lose a copy of the thing? You need not doubt this will be fodder for wacky bloggers for months.

The Queen of Soul was NOT in her best form. Was Patti LaBelle unavailable?

I've come to the conclusion that the job of inaugural poet had fallen into disuetude since Kennedy until Clinton revived it is because none of the poets have composed anything worthwhile since Robert Frost. I've read better poems in greeting cards and those overpriced sentimental books at Hallmark that kids buy for their parents on special occasions.

The speech itself had many fine moments, but I alerted to some items that caused dyspepsia.

All in all, a fine pageant, and, as I reminded myself, a fine testament to a country that regularly undergoes regime change without bloody uprisings.

Here is your answer: No, and I am not knocking thier validity.
Another question, if we are all equal and one people why have race seperated anything.
If I decided to use a large sum of money to start a White college fund I would be crucified, would I not?

WOW!! what a concept......that will never happen.

Hey Oilman,
By George I think you've got it!

Hey gotataketoo you posted:

Words just words.........???????
....help us work for that day when black will not be asked to give back, when brown can stick around, when yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, man, and when white will embrace what is right."

Does this mean if we are ALL equal we can do away with the Black and hispanic chamber of commerece. What about the United negro college fund? Shouldn't ALL kids have EQUAL rights to all monies available for education? How about employment quotas?

All joking aside I am happy that we, the USofA as a whole, has finally put at a small bit of racism behind us. I wish the first black president were a conservative. That would have been a double whammy.

Thats what I was talking about!

Oh, there's gonna be change and all we'll have left is change.

Poor tormented, tortured Dems....their delicate sensibilities were offended & they whined, then they turn around and act like the jackasses they truely are.

I have hope that I will get some change, but I won't hold my breath.

I believe LBB may have been the song director on that chorus.
Did the Clintons leave office?

They're bAAAaaaAAck!

Change! Hope and Change!

I spent my day in a locked unit in the hopes to escape the spectacle. Unfortunately, I didn't escape all of it. I did miss the part when Bush spoke & all the Dems boo'd & sung "hey hey hey good bye", Reps weren't so uncouth as to do that when Clinton left office. Of course we are mature, responsible, tax paying citizens.

What are you waiting for?

LBB,&nbsp;
Apology accepted. Think of it no further. ;-
You wouldn't be yanking my chain because you acted as if you were in elementary school, &nbsp;would you?

I claim no one. I am an independent conservative. Why are conservatives right wing nut jobs. What are liberals, in your opinion?

BigJ,
I can't be sure if you're making fun of my screen name or just using your "special" keyboard.

the Sh1t to hit the fan when the Dems realize they can't handle the job at hand?

Did you see Obama after his initial meeting with Bush. Poor SOB looked like he aged ten years. Any wonder why his campaign rhetoric began to change about that time? He learned the truth, and it scared him to death! lol

Welcome to the worse job in the world, Barrack. Do your best for us, and we promise the media will give you a two year free pas....

vbb,
Don't cry. I'm sitting back and waiting. Ask me what I'm waiting for.

All day I just wanted to cry.

Oh yeah, and BigJ agreed with you. Be afraid- be very afraid. Bwahahaha
Actually, you and BigJ can now put to rest all your fake fear and sleep well tonight.

LBB,

You are funny. The majority of the voting public voted for Bush both times he ran for POTUS. In case you are not aware, he was not running in this past election.
I said nothing to attack you. I just call'em as I see'em. You seem to be the person with the problem. I didn't call you names but you certainly pulled a third grade move with the doh-doh comment. Keep it up. I'm enjoying watching you make a complete a** of yourself. Typical liberal. BTW, what flavor is the kool-aid today?

LBB,
You don't seem very happy or optimistic. More vendictive that anything.

Words just words.........???????
....help us work for that day when black will not be asked to give back, when brown can stick around, when yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, man, and when white will embrace what is right."

I voted for Obama and I am revelling in today's festivities and the monumental history made today. I have also been very critical of the Bush administration over the last eight years.

That said, I would like to give credit to George W. Bush for spearheading a gracious and cooperative transition of power. I am ashamed to say that Bill Clinton and the outgoing democratic administration did not act with the same grace and dignity when they left office.

My hat is off to outgoing President Bush.

Mike should not be surprised if he knows conservatives as well as he claims. It is not our intention to blast the President of the United States simply because he was not our choice. That would be very liberal of us. Mike and I have gone at it on his blog and we will probably do so again because of principle. But to the victor go the spoils and today is a day all Americans can celebrate the fact that, at minimum, a small bit of racism died and day so many have fought for and some have even died for has become reality. I did find interesting the changed tone of Mr. Obama's rhetoric regarding the war on terror and worldview of those that seek to harm or destroy our country and way of life. I do think the intelligence briefings have opened his eyes to the degree of danger there is to America. I hope he is able to convince others of this threat.
To the person that referred to the "historical" nature of the day. Please, it is either "an historic (when pronounced ‘istoric)" or a historic". It is not your fault. I have heard several prominent newscasters and pundits make the same painful error today.

So the great mind reader, Swami Donkee, has returned!

What do I think about the Obama Fest? Expecting the worse, hoping for the best.

Well ladies and gents, I for one am proud. I am proud that I got to witness what i consider to be the most historical passing of the tourch yet, and the official crowning of a new era. Not only did I see the passing of a the tourch between between Former President Bush and President Obama, I saw the passing of the tourch between the old generation and the young generation. I saw lines blurred,and barriers broken. I saw and heard the flesh and blood version of Dr.King's dream, and I believe we will see this dream becoming more and more of a reality as time goes on. This trully is a historical time in our lives, and we should enjoy it as much as we can, for not all were able to witness it themselves. I say this you with the deepest honesty I can muster, I am neither democrat nor republican, I am an American. We no longer shouldn't look at ourselves as either democrat or republican, but as a people. For democrats and republicans do not control this nation, we do, and we have spoken. Senator Mccain no doubt would have made a fine president even in his old age, however it's proven that he is not what need at this very moment, and I wish him no ill. As a young American, I will support my president, until their is a clear, sound, and blatantly obvious reason not too.

These posts are often misconstrued....But after awhile everyone knows what the poster is thinking..For example I knew what Bighorn was complaining about in another thread because he does not like redundancy.....I did not really know what you meant but I will accept your explanation...I know only 35% of the voters voted for Obama in this county because it is an old established conservative town,so perhaps my comment was taken as left-handed compliment but I was genuinely surprised.

Lol...maryann
Today sarcasm and labels cannot penetrate a smile from ear to ear....You are right' now if everything goes south only one party to blame.

Have a good one.

Sounds like an olive branch to me. I'd take it while the honeymoon is still on.

Plenty of time for verbal wrestling tomorrow, not? ;-}

I should care because?

All positive reactions..I am surprised.