we'll see how this birth certificate issue turns out after he's been there for two terms!

Obama is still the president today!

One thing that really upsets me is the people who are bashing this man as a high school teacher. For too long I have had to listen to the "lemmings" in the democratic party teaching my children. I, for one, am very happy that there is a teacher who questions things that he sees as questionable. I don't really have too much of an opinion on the whole birth certificate thing, I just wish that it would be settled. If it does come out that Obama is a fraud, which I belive that he is, birth certificate or not, then I hope that the powers that be do something about it.

My group? Not a member of any group or party. I do find it interesting though and will continue to follow the arguments.

The dismissals have all been due to standing, not that they've shown evidence to the contrary. I don't have a crystal ball but would think eventually the documents will come out and one way or another, settle the arguments.

Question joeyd

Two federal courts have dismissed the suits and the Supreme Court refused to hear the “birthers” citizen challenge…..How will your group resolve the issue? I doubt you have any house members or senators ready to submit any legislation to the democratic majority.

The announcements could have very well been auto-generated by recent birth documents filed in courts, hospitals etc..

At the time and perhaps still ongoing, any member of the family, including grandparents, could request a COLB in Hawaii regardless of where the baby was born. Case in point: his sister, born in Indonesia, reportedly has a hawaiian COLB.

Johnny, the birth announcements were from the newspapers in 1961. Why on earth would they forge them back in 1961? He was already a US citizen. So, they fly a newborn baby halfway around the world and forge a birth announcement....just so he could be a "native" born US citizen? Why would they care?

Just like to keep the honest...Honest.:-)

Mike the asse, pull your head out of your own, re-read where I say:

"not that I am a believer here, I remain skeptical of this foreigner claim, but yet try to remain objective"

I REMAIN SKEPTICAL OF THIS FOREIGNER CLAIM

You take the cake brother, typical politico, to wrapped up in his own cause to think critically towards it.

PEOPLE, its not NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, its NATIVE-BORN CITIZEN

Today 11:17 am JohnnyHville said
""Rush Limbaugh (real GOP leader)"? Please, you are delusional if you truly believe that. That is no different than claiming Obama was born in Kenya"

So which is it? Now he is siding with the "birthers" ..That might be the definition of Independent but I think it is old fashion flip flopping.

Archibonkers2,

He could have been born on the white house lawn.

If his father wasn't a US citizen at the time, he is not natural born per our Constitution and therefore, not eligible to serve.

it will never happen in this case! all the rhetoric is Republican lies and speculation! you can tell who listens to Rush Limboob by the comments that are made!

Archie, the winners of political offices can be disqualified retroactively and removed from office. Has happened plenty of time before, just not to a President.

Roger and others, newspapers do not fact check personal announcements. If I wanted to perpetrate a fraud of securing my child US citizenship (not that I am a believer here, I remain skeptical of this foreigner claim, but yet try to remain objective), the first thing I would do is post a birth announcement with the details as I want them to be.

you can wonder about where he was born all you want! but the fact is that he is the President of the USA! He is our president!

Sorry, should read (hit post instead of preview):

The qualification to be President of the United States is NOT citizenship, but:

Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States.

The qualification to be President of the United States is NOT citizenship, but:

Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States citizenship through natural birth on US soil.

Malaise,

>>Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens >>of the United States at birth:"

You've given the definition of citizen, not natural born citizen.

NBC requires BOTH parents to be US citizens.

you all must have a very boring life if you're still talking about Barack Obama's birth certificate! the election is over! Obama won and you have to live with it!

Another comment:

Recently my wife was applying for a US Passport. The application required her birth certificate for authentication of her US citizenship. She was not born in Victoria but Houston. So we paid the fee and the received not the "long form" certificate, but the Texas version of the Certification of Live Birth. The Feds were perfectly happy with that and now wife is the proud holder of a US passport.

Perhaps Obama doesn't "end" the lawsuits by releasing his long "form birth" certificate because what he has released is plenty good enough. Seems it was for the Feds.

I made this comment on the poll asking whether I believed Obama was born in Hawaii:

"Whatever you think about Mr Obama's policies, this whole birth certificate hoo-haw is just stupid--and desparately hysterical and over blown.

If Obama was a white guy from Kansas, this issue would have NEVER come up.

It's time to leave the conspiracies behind and start thinking soberly about Obama and his administration. If you oppose him, oppose him for legitimate reasons--not hokey stuff about "He's not really an American!" Or, "He was born in Kenya not Honolulu, Hawaii.""

I stand by this statement.

I was never on board for the all Clinton conspiracy garbage, I'm NOT on board for 9/11 Truth swill. This "Birther" stuff is just as pointless and just as big of a waste of time.

Instead of worrying about Obama's birth certificate why not look at our own lives and see what needs to happen for us to become holy and righteous indviduals in the mold of Jesus Christ? God is not going to judge us on our reaction to Obama's American bona fides or lack thereof. He is going to each of us on whether or not we surrendered our lives to His Son Jesus Christ.

This is an issue, a huge issue that will never go away until it is clearly answered, was Obama actually born in Kenya or in the United States?

Let's see:

Obama produced a certificate from his state of birth that was verified by the courts,

Factcheck reviewed the controversy and determined he had been born in Hawaii,

the local Hawaiian newspapers announced his birth back in 1961,

AND HIS MOTHER IS A US CITIZEN who grew up in the US, meeting the requirement of "natural born citizen" under Title 8.

None of his Primary or General Election competition disproved his citizenship when they had every reason to try.

If God himself parted the clouds and in a booming voice told you he was a US citizen, you'd still call it a fraud. Let's face it: there is nothing that will satisfy you, even if there was a "birth certificate" produced that met your standards. Face it: you've been led on a wild goose chase.

Both of Honolulu's major newspapers published the birth announcment in 1961. Apparently, they were in on the "cover up" because they knew he'd be running for President 47 years later.

At the time Obama was allegedly born, he acquired British citizenship from his father, and if he was not born on US soil, his mother was not yet old enough (<18) to automatically pass along her citizenship to him -- meaning that Obama would have had to become naturalized to be a US citizen

Regardless of where he was born, Obama had British citizenship at birth, and was therefore, not a natural-born citizen, whether or not he also had US citizenship.

A dual citizen is also not a natural-born citizen.

The requirements for being a natural-born citizen are born on US soil to two US citizens.

That's the Law.

So, any way you slice it, Obama is illegally serving as President.

Birth certificate and constitution.
Doesn't matter, the constitution went out the window when obama came in.

No, he never produced a valid birth certificate....Someone prove it for me instead of just writing mindless chatter.

If obama was born in Hawaii, he is a citizen, so where is the Birth Certificate....it's that simple.

Funny, the democrats were arguing about McCain not being a natural born citizen until the finally figured out that their own may not be qualified, then they clammed up.....that's funny.

Peter, you are not wrong: we have been in a constitutional crisis ever since we allowed an ineligible candidate to become President.

The truly misguided individuals are those who want us to believe that Obama actually posted a genuine copy of his Certification of Live Birth on the Internet.

He never did.

Obama's Certification of Live Birth DOES NOT EXIST.

Hawaii never issued it. Not now. Not ever.

It is a fabrication. A forgery. A lie and a ruse, and unquestionably, the greatest document fraud ever committed in American history.

Now, before anyone mentions Factcheck, they need to know that Factcheck aided and abetted the Obama Campaign in perpetrating this document fraud.

Whether they be pawns or major players in this game of deceit, Factcheck hands are plenty dirty, and it's no secret that they have been totally in-the-tank for Obama since 2007.

Nobody shills for him better, although there are other shills for Obama, who also pretend to be nonpartisan -- a blatant lie, of course. All of these so-called "fact checking" sites like Politifact and Snopes are nothing more than mouthpieces for the Left.

The stark reality is that the man in the White House had a bogus birth certificate created to deceive the American public and members of Congress that he was born in Hawaii; and, also used it to avoid having to show his real, original birth certificate.

It's called creating and proffering a "false identification document" and it is a felony: a clear violation of Hawaiian and Federal Forgery Law.

If there are any "tinfoil hats" to be worn, they are now on the tiny heads of the lying Left who lost their grip on reality a long time ago.

For everyone else who has kept an open mind throughout this mindfreak, and who are only now learning that a Presidential pretender has spent over $1 million dollars of his campaign finances to threaten true US citizens, to stomp on their civil rights, and to deny all Americans and their members of government from ever seeing his real birth certificate.

That fact alone should fail the smell test. Big-time.

Obama is not a natural-born citizen, and may not even be a naturalized citizen. for the sake of our country, the truth about Obama's origins MUST BE DISCOVERED NOW before our country is further defrauded into oblivion.

It's all here for you to see:

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com

He did produce the birth certificate. All complaints brought against the certificate were dismissed. Hawaiian officials have verified the certificate.

Lay off the Fox News Channel for a while.

One thing you 0bamabots never seem to acknowledge is that instead of simply producing the document that would end the controversy, 0 has paid more than a million bucks to attorneys to fight the lawsuits filed seeking the release of the document in question. Who in their right mind would do that? If I have nothing to hide I still might refuse to reveal personal information to the public, but not at such great expense and not when disclosure would benefit me to the extent that it would him.

There is also the damage to our society that should be taken into consideration. If he'd just show us the piece of paper we could all be sure we have a legit president on our hands, thus making threads like this one unnecessary.

sixgun,

Even IF Barack Obama wasn't born within the the US or a US possession, his mother was a citizen and grew up in the United States. So he would fit this criteria:

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

Don't you think Hillary Clinton's or John McCain's campaign would have raised this issue if they had found any discrepancies?

You're kidding yourself if you think there is anything to this hogwash some poor loser dreamed up. Move on already.

@archiebonkers2: "we know he's a US citizen or else he wouldn't be the president!"

Oh, come now. You don't really expect everyone to swallow that non sequitur, do you. Your statement is about as ridiculous as saying, "I know my account has money in it or else I wouldn't still have checks!"

crybaby!

this is not an issue anymore we know he's a US citizen or else he wouldn't be the president! this an old story that has no merit!

Malaise

Can you truly say that b.o. fit into any of your posted guidlines?
that is my whole point...

Oh brother, another lame attempt by extremists. Barack Obama's mother was a US citizen who had lived in the United States.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps of who is a Natural-born citizen. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

Anyone born inside the United States *

Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe

Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year

Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

I am disappointed...my colleague, Mr. Aparecio failed to do his homework (regarding his article "Hoping Obama's Place Of Birth Truly Was In Hawaii"), something I have heard him chide his seniors about every day of the school year. I am also disappointed in all of those who continuously buy into this Internet propoganda mess. Let me clarify some things:

Each state has its own recording system for birth certificates. The hospital form is not neccessarily the only one that is right, so long as it is signed and notarized by the Department of the Vital Records for the state. To prove citizenship, all you need is a state, mother and father's identity, and that is it unless born aborad, in which case, paternal citizenship is needed because of the need to prove jus sangris, or right of blood. So we don't have his hospital location. What if he was born in an ambulance, or at home? Should we really have his exact street address? Not saying this is his situation, but if you want to get into the hyoptheticals, it goes both ways and it is a waste of time when you have a GOVERNMENT agency certifying he was born there.

Why try and pour salt into wounds that may or may not be there? Is this really that big of an issue? Are you willing to accuse a state agency of a felony (hampering a federal investigation) because your guy lost an election? Are you any better than the same people you complained about when Bush was president, or even Regean? Be happy we turned a corner, look at the facts we have on hand, and if you want to be a lawyer, go back to law school and do something about it.

great article!!!!! well stated..... well taken !!!!
Thank you sir....