Illegal Immigration is the problem. The key word is illegal. Breaking the laws of the United States. No one, who wants to come to this country has the right to break the law. I don't care about "being poor, wanting a better life, doing jobs no Citizens will do", it doesn't cut it anymore. Mexico is a rich country who happens to be more crooked than a dog's hind leg. Now if they would like to become the 51st State, fine, then we can go in and clean it up. Now killing of people on their own ranches seems to be the norm and yet our Government refuses to protect our borders. It's time for the National Guard to patrol the border and time to know who is coming into our country. This isn't being "racist or a bigot" it just common sense!
xring, I wonder, America is so much in a mess, we might end up like Mexico. Just look at our financial situation. If we were to ever end up in such a horrible need and our people would become even more desperate than they are now. Would we still be proud of being American. You damn right we would!
Thanks Joe, that's a good point - I can relate.X
Xring,Latino I actually was able to attend the Fatal Funnel Forum. Mrs. Hernandez explained that by 3rd generation most families only speak English, do claim to be American, and the first generation here are the flag carriers.
Yes some Mexican people that come to America still carry the flag of Mexico. They are a very proud people. But like some do... some don't, because they are ashamed. You have to understand that many Americans look down on Mexicans, and they feel this. So when they return to their old home to visit family they are honored and looked up to, respected. This is love for the people there, not the government. Also in Mexico most families stay in the same home for generations, unlike the nomadic American. There definitely is love for the land that has been passed down from generation to generation. You know, that place where you grew up! But more than that. This is the room mom gave birth to me in, and Grandma bore mom, and her grandmother bore her and so on. It's not a Dedication to another country, maybe more of just trying to hold onto the only thing you have left that reminds one of home.
There's nothing wrong with being proud of where you come from, there's nothing wrong with being proud of your culture. That is what makes America so interesting, The different cultures, accents, and colors.
If I left America today, I would not forget that I am American. And every time I saw an American flag I would know where I came from. Everyone should know their heritage, and where they came from.
Joe – in your last post you described a very horrible scenario, which leads me to ask a question that you may be able to shed some light for me. In actuality, I really am sincere in asking this question. I have never understood the Hispanic culture of undying loyalty to a country (Mexico) that can’t provide jobs to their people, can’t provide protection to the citizens, and operates in a highly corrupt form of government.
The Mexicans are truly “dying” to get into this country, willing to risk life and limb to find a better way of life (and I don’t blame them, I would too). When the immigrants came to America from the European countries, they had disdain for the country they left and would openly proclaim that (insert European country here) sucked. Why is it that the Mexican culture patronizes and honors a country that has never been able to do anything for them except make them want to leave? I’m just curious. Thanks.
Okay say you are at home, you step outside with your family, a van pulls up. Your family is attacked, ambushed, you fight with all your might. You wake on the ground to find yourself and wife bloodied, your 11 year old daughter is taken. You go to your local authorities to report the incident. You are then beaten and threatened not to talk to anyone about what has happened, they are working on the case. The federal police man then escorts you home to find that your home has now been rampaged and the little you work so hard to get is gone. The police man tells you, you should be thankful you have one less mouth to feed. And you should spend more time with your 8yr old before the same becomes of him. He then smiles, tells you sleep well, and leaves. All night you think, worry, feel guilt, think, feel helpless, cry, think. You know just 100 miles away, or less there is a land that you heard of, where you can go and your family will be safer. You will be able to keep them away from these evil men who are just waiting for your children to hit puberty before they enslave them for years then kill them. You know someone who knows someone who can get you and your family there, they tell you of other people who’ve gone there and the land there is like being in a different world. You don’t have to worry about your children starving or becoming sex slaves. All you have to do, is work hard. Now, he tells you there are dangers, but if you make it, your family will be free. Should you take the risk? Should you risk your lives, for the chance that the rest of your children not becoming sex slaves? But if you go you may die. If you stay, your son will die, but before that, he will be brutally raped, he will be brutally beat and then after years of torture and wanting to die, he will be brutally killed. So, you wake up the next morning and decide to take the risk and flee to the promised land.
According to the greedy people on this site you deserve to die. Your children deserve to become sex slaves because you were born there, your child was born there. These people say they are Christian, they say they are not racial, they say you are a coward because you chose to take the risk of fleeing this evil country you were born in. You are worthless, your children are worthless because they are Mexicans. But they are not racist. You should have applied to come into “their” country and wait the five years for your visa, even though your next child would have disappeared by then. It’s not their problem, it’s yours! And any penny spent on the safety of your family holds no constitute. You broke the law, by coming here, you deserve to die. Though they are afraid to help, they are afraid to spend pennies, YOU ARE THE COWARD!
Welcome to America.Land of the free. Free only to those whom descend from imigrants themselves.Free for the descendants of slave owners, free for the descendants of the ones who stole this land from your ascendants, raped your ascendants, killed your ascendants and forced your ascendants to flee to the miserable country you are trapped in today. Again I say:Welcome to America!Where it’s not wrong to care more about money than human (Mexican) life and safety.Where only American lives are valued.
Maybe we shouldn’t expect more from these people, besides look at whom they descend from, that’s the same blood. I guess some things truly can’t change. After so many years have passed, they still share the same greed absorbed, hate filled heart of their ancestors. Whom had no remorse for human life if they share not the same nationality.
Loveourmilitary - you are correct - T.Michael is a good guy. I know him personally and he truly does have the county's best interest at heart.
As far as being a politician - ehh - he doesn't need the headache. He does it because he loves law enforcement. There are always people that are armchair critics on forums that have no personal life. He takes it in stride.X
joe..don't be so cruel. That's been his trademark for years. And personally I think our Sheriff is a decent human being and does a fine job. Any one in an elected office has to be a poitician to some degree or they wouldn't have the job. I don't question one bit whether he's being sincere or not. He's a decent man. You must have a bone to pick with him...
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reyrey..LOVE your comment and thank you
Oh, please let it be true since it was in the paper IT IS FINALLY OVER....can we really believe that?
Fatal Funnel Finale......it says here in the headline, but I'll believe it when I see it. Of course, it could be kept "alive" on this forum with comments and blogs ad nauseum.
I am not a big fan of the AG running this series for it seems that most of the people here have a hate towards immigrants. Some type of discussion has to happen although most people have their minds already made up. Sheriff O'Connor made a salient point, if an illegal alien is arrested, they must informed ICE; however their job is not to actively look for them. This issue comes down to two items, racism or economics. One group is seeing their majority disappearing and feel threatened and the other group feel that illegal aliens are taking their jobs. Now some of you will say that is about the law or use that principle and I will say if you feel that strong about illegal aliens, then don’t buy anything that you might feel that it might be tainted by their hands, i.e. fruits, vegetables. If you feel that they are taking your jobs, by all means, become construction workers, day laborers and so forth. Supply and demand, find the jobs and get them. Now, if you do not get hired, do not blame the immigrants for they are just trying to work, blame the person that hired them. And for those that argue that is then crime, well, statistics show that the crimes they commit, is committed against fellow immigrants. I am not saying that there no crimes committed against people outside their group but the vast majority are towards their own and is not endemic. A caveat here though, immigrants are victims of crimes against them by people from other groups and they do not report these crimes because there is a fear that they will ask them for their "papers".
FIRST , I DONT GET HOW A MURDER IN VICTORIA HAS TO DO WITH IMMIGRATION WHEN THOSE PPL WHERE AMERICANS.... VICTORIANBYBIRTH THOSE PPL THAT COMMITED MURDER WHERE BORN AND RAISED IN VICTORIA , TEXAS. THEREFORE, THEY WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS .. DO UR HOMEWORK PLZ.. AND DONT TALK WHT U SUPPOSEDLY KNOW SPEAK WHT U DO KNOW ...
jtj, you judge us by our white skin, so that makes you a racist...in your own words.
Macarena Hernandez is a brilliant, strong, powerful speaker. UHV is blessed in having someone like her. Hernandez's public appearance at the Leo J. Welder Center was not only outstanding, but brought alot of truth.It was an honor to hear her speak.
Not conforming does not make you a racist .Being tired of people judging you by your skin color does not make you a racist,speaking up against those that will try to hold a group of people down does not make you a racist. Blaming all of ones problems on a group of people that makesyou racist.Because i will not keep my mouth shut about something i see as wrong is my RIGHT ,and my duty as afather,son ,or brother.And the term "whitey"has never been said by me.vbb this goes to show once again you only see what you want.
Now, hide & watch as all my comments are deleted while others stay put.
Even you BigJ never call anyone whitey.
I'm sorry jtj, I thought you were Mexican. My point is the members of the Mexican Mafia & others tend to be chock full of illegals, people tend to overlook that fact.
BigJ, most of the others you are referring to never ever refer to other ethnicities with racial slurs as jtj does. He is full of hatred towards those not like him.
VBB people generally comment on a story on the same page as the story.In regards to the murder case i thought they were all legal,has that changed?It has always been "one of yours" in the presidential seat ,so...here we are!
Ummm..no was referencing the recent murder here in Victoria.
victorianbybirth, you are so classy with your great knowledge of alcohol linked with suicide. One word for you love, THERAPY!
"It touches people's lives." Like a broken beer bottle to the throat.