Exresident.

You must not be reading. The keyword was "orginally". As far as my bias, it is a reaction of the bias and ingornace of others. That is honest.

States' rights were use as a tool for supression. You don't have to believeme, just read the statements and speeches by our history makers.

Exresident.

It seems every time when a person disagrees or question the status quo, he or she is accuse of have an agenda or being a revisionist. Why is that? Can you please tell me.

I guess I won't get an answer anytime soon.

WannaBeRancher.
It seems to me that you are either forgetting or want people to forget their history. Yes you want more learning about the Constitution and states’rights. Ok fine. The U.S. Constitution originally had the 3/5 rule, where non-whites are counted as 3/5’s of white person. Slavery, land grants, and civil rights for minorities were suppressed under the banner of states’ rights.

It seem to me that you want put the wool over people’s eyes because the truth hurts.

Since education began in our country, we have spent our time and resources teaching a history void of reality.
Why not replace it with the truth? The DeLeons and other families lived here long before the land grants. The De Leons were once the richest family in Texas. Their sons fought for independence. But they were essentially run off their lands.

We have been lied to in school. That is why we must undo it. Each person must ask himself: Why does this prospect cause me fear?

I’m sure you’re hard at work here.

:)

exresident
"I would rather work toward abolishing the State Board of Education"
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I’m sure your hard at work here.

roberttx

i'd be interested to find out how the some of the local anglo families came to own so much land around the Victoria area.
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RT
Our public schools will not be allowed to teach this. The Texas Revolution was about the redistribution of wealth and that wealth was land, Mexican land. Goliad, Refugio and Victoria are prime examples. Has anyone ever wandered what happened to the Mexican owners of these land grants? Has anyone heard of General Rusk’s decree ordering Mexican off their land and the enforcement of his edict by his liberating army? Yes he did, and he did that here in Victoria County right after the battle of San Jacinto while the Texian Army was stationed at Spring Creek. The Texian army removed Mexican citizens from their homes at gun point. Today, we call this socialism.

The Germans and others should have their place in history. However, Spanish history began hundreds of years earlier. German history began in the waning days of The Republic, the 1840s. Any ethnic group is free to organize and lobby the State Board of Education. However, this takes work. Ask Benny. The lazy prefer to belly ache and press a few keys on a keyboard.

There is much to learn. However, reading this thread explains why Texas remains at the bottom of nation’s educational barrel will do so for at least another generation.

GOP-

Just because I only mentioned a couple of streets doesn't mean that those are the only ones in town. And why, if some Anglo did something worth being recognized for, shouldn't he/she have a steet or a day or even a month named after them too? Or is that just reserved for Hispanics, Latinos, African Americans or any nationality other than Anglo?

LULAC is correct. Texan History is generalized when in reference to Spanish History. We need to be teaching the nitty gritty. We deserve to have our rich culture cultivated and conserved, ugly as it may be. Bury Me At Wounded Knee is a cruel historic story but non the less, it is our history. I am sure there are still alot of those whom would rather not have the truth be told and then there are those whom simply have an opinion.

KennethSchustereit
The school and church out in Myersville taught their lessons in German for a long long while. The school did eventually convert to teaching lessons in English, but the church continued in German for sometime after. The church’s historical library in that community has kept accounts of all the families that had settled in the area. It is very enriching to read up on it.

It is up to the families to continue culture, history, native language, etc…. It is not the job of our public school system.

Everyone reread JackDeuce and dkc and ajr…….. They make a good case.

I feel that there already is enough Hispansic history being taught unless the schools in Texas are teaching much. In Idaho we learned plenty of Hispanic history that I got sick of it. There's plenty of other history that needs to be taught not just your Hispanic.

JackDeuce

I agree with your statement.

There is not enough time in the day to put every bit of American history into one hour a day in school.
Parents, if you want your kids to learn about their own culture, set up a time for them to do it at home. Nothing is stopping them from learning what they want to learn...at home.
Don't try to clog up theri minds with too much history. They NEED to be learning the tools they will need to make a living one day.

exresident

I agree.... Every Texas German I know are to busy working hard, tending to their families, and minding their own affairs to become so desperate a needy in wanting some sort of recognition to form collations to fight battles that are unwinnable. Yeah..... I would like to see how far we could go with starting an organization called The Victoria council of the League of United German American Citizens?

Just so everyone is aware….”Kampf der Macht” is the will to power. It is the main driving force in man to succeed in achievement, ambition, and striving to reach the highest possible position in life. It is of strong will and work and character that births that of kampf der macht. I know all of my family today and dating back generations ago have possessed it.

There could be a wealth of Texas German history to be learned through our schools, but family and other resources available to me deliver the history I crave.

Lulac could use their organization to provide such resources and not put this on our public schools. They are a private organization and can give their hispanic history lessons privately.

My family is of German descent and settled in the Myersville area back in the mid 1800’s. That community is largely made up of Germans how settled the area and kept it as their home. Many of them fled their mother land to America in hopes of a better opportunity for them and their families.

German immigrant who succeeded in reaching Texas and establishing himself as a successful farmer, merchant, or mechanic, one other German died along the way, a sacrifice to the success of that mammoth migration effort.

In 1943, John Schmitz's German-born father told the Federal Bureau of Investigation that he wouldn't fight against the Germans. He was branded a ''dangerous enemy alien'' to the United States and put into an internment camp.

The Alien Family Internment Camp in Crystal City, Texas, was the only camp that housed entire families -- giving them the chance to avoid separation -- in the United States. During the war, nearly 1,000 Germans and about a dozen Italians lived there, along with 2,300 Japanese.

Why shouldn’t we consider bringing this type of history into our Texas class rooms as well? Is the history of my German roots right here in Texas not as important as those of the hipanic. Double stand is what I smell, and it is a foul odor.

Benny, if they put it [hispanic history] ON the books, it will fall off as soon as the book is picked up. The only achievement to which bilingual education can point is turning out graduates who are illiterate in two languages.

LULAC and other groups should focus thier attention on getting children into the classroom.
Visit any VISD Elementary School or ask any Teacher how many times thier class is disrupted by late arriving students and you would be surprised. Teachers have a hard enough time finding time to teach what is already required.
I would bet that if these groups got together and went door to door waking up Parents and getting kids to school on time Teachers would have at least an extra hour to actually teach.
What is that saying? It takes a community.... If my children could learn uninteruped.... Sign me up!!!!

i'd be interested to find out how the some of the local anglo families came to own so much land around the Victoria area.

All the political correctness and social promotions is enough to make up for any lack in Mexican history taught in school...

*Assisting the young to value self-responsibility, ethnic-pride, and education should be where LULAC focuses its time and money."

Yup. But getting the Mexican population all upset about an imaginary problem gets them more donations.

•justobserving
•“Oh come on!!! You have got to be kidding me. Umm DeLeon Plaza??? DeLeon Street??? Navarro Street??? de Zavala Road in San Antonio???

How about all the “De-Mexicanized” streets in Victoria which were renamed after Anglos.

How about La Bahia’s cattle and beef delivered to George Washington by local Spanish-Tejanos during the American Revolution.

How about all those pesky illegal aliens who destroyed La Bahia before they got executed on Palm Sunday.

How about that pesky question dogging Stephen F. Austin. Was he really a homosexual?
(GOP LoveChild thinks SFA was straight)

Anglo Texas began in 1836, the Spanish were exploring this state in 1528.

HOW ABOUT ANOTHER 12 YEARS OF WHITE HISTORY MONTH?
NO THANKS, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK BENNY.

I hope the folks of Victoria County tell LULAC where to go. More importantly, contact the SBOE and let them know your feelings to stop this nonsense. That is what I'm going to do. I'll also tell them I want more teaching of the Constitution and states' rights to be put in the classroms instead of more cultural history!

Today is tomorrow's history. LULAC should focus on how they can save their current generation. It's hard to imagine that such an organization could be so consumed by the pride of their race's early accomplishments that they ignore the many profound problems that occur today. The teen pregnancies, drop-out rates, gang affiliations and drug use are some areas that could use their immediate attention. I'm all for passing on traditions and legacies, but in the future, what will be taught about the events that occured today? You might need to think about that LULAC, because all of these things that you should really be focused on are happening during your watch.

maybe LULAC should be more interested in keeping the kids out of the no future but prison or death gangs that are rampent in their neighborhoods. some kids can't read or write in any language.

Parents are the ones to blame for this because their job of raising their kids is being ignored or pushed off on the schools. It doesn't matter what your race, creed or color is, if you don't stand up and do your job of raising your own kids and making sure they go to school, It won't matter what is taught in the classroom.

Parents need to teach their kids manners and respect, right from wrong, and show by example the rewards of a good work ethic. ( NEW CAR, OWNING A HOME) and The need of having a good education. All these things start at home with the parents.

It seems too many parents let their kids just run wild these days and then say its societies fault when they get into trouble, or worse end up dead. Before they blame anyone they need to look in the mirror and point the finger of blame squarely at themselves.

Once this is done then maybe we can start worrying what needs to be added to the history classes. start making changes in the home first and the rest will take care of its self. With entire classrooms of well behaved kids the teachers would be able to teach more and babysit less covering more of every subject taught instead of wasting time having to repeat the same stuff due to unruly kids or having to teach at the lowest level of student in the class so they can pass the tests hindering all other students in the process.

Oh come on!!! You have got to be kidding me. Umm DeLeon Plaza??? DeLeon Street??? Navarro Street??? de Zavala Road in San Antonio??? What about all the countless streets and buildings in Austin, Houston, EL PASO...I guess these names were just pulled from the air huh? How about the Presidio La Bahia. And what is wrong with taking your kids downtown to "DeLeon Plaza" and letting them READ how Don Martin DeLeon was the founder of Victoria? For that fact, parents should teach their children, it's not all the responsibility of the school. Seems like these days parents don't want to do much with their kids.

I agree with PatientEarth, Texas History is also taught in the 4th grade and there is A LOT of emphasis placed on the Spanish empresarios who settled much of south Texas as well as the many Texicans who fought for Texas independence. I believe it is more that too many of these students are still at the young age that they don't realize the importance of history and the important heritage that is theirs because of those brave pioneering men and women. This is not only a problem with the Hispanic community but with almost all races and creeds.