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Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves, talking such trash.
Do you remember when UHV was a 4 school room college branch of UH Central? This University - the ONLY one within driving distance for 12 counties - has educated thousands of students each year (check the enrollment) and has grown tremendously in the last 20 years through dedication to the students and growing the university.
The new freshman class is not even attending yet and y'all gripe about a lack of student bodies and forget all the $$ spent inside Victoria and generated by UHV.
How can you be so short-sighted and non-supportive of this institution? Not to mention ungrateful. Remember when there was no local university for local students?
Apparently you do not remember or don't care about the availability of an excellent institution of higher education being available for students - especially those who cannot afford to live in high priced dorms and apartments at over-priced universities.
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Hotels on the Houston Hwy??? Seriously??? If I were a parent I wouldn't allow my kid to go away to college & live in a crack den (pretty much what those hotels are), I would be exploring other options.
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Why, oh why are a group of local people pushing and even threatening the UH system to do something that UH itself says they do not have to do yet?
Wouldn't it be funny if the UH system released a statement....
Due to undue pressure concerning the UHV expansion, the UHV Victoria campus will not accept any student applications for the 2011 year.
All current UHV students in Victoria are encouraged to transfer to our Sugar Land or Cinco Ranch campus.
Do you actually think that the UH board of regents is not looking at long term plans for UHV?
The UH board of regents spent $9 million dollars to buy the property and renovate the old Holiday Inn for housing. Do you think that investment was short term?
Do you actually believe the UH system would tackle downward expansion without a long term plan?
"if they didn't get what they want, then they should regroup and try again. "
I think that about says it all.
Poor people, didn't get the answer they wanted, so try again.
That reminds me of kids, kid: "I want"parent: "No"" I want" "No""I want" "No" For infinity, over and over again.
Get it through your heads, the Crossroad Commission on Education or the City of Victoria is NOT the captain of this ship, the University of Houston is. YOU CANNOT FORCE THEM TO DO ANYTHING THEY DO NOT WANT TO DO.
The UH board of regents decided over a year ago that they do not have to build any new structures until 2012, at the earliest.
The Buehler family? Who mentioned them on this thread?
I know they own the land, and yes they are good people,but a free road paid for by local taxpayers and a new University paid for by every taxpayer in the state of Texas sure would increase the value of their land.
i think they are looking at long term goals for UHV. real long term goals, not 5 - 10 years, more like 20-50 years.
if they didn't get what they want, then they should regroup and try again. i understand what they are saying about time limits, and if what they say is true, it could push back any plans quite a bit.
how is spreading out costs over the long term a bad thing?
i don't think buhler is looking to line his pockets, and if you do then i don't think you actually know the man.
I thought the main focus of this group was to figure out how to keep kids from dropping out of VISD & to help get their ranking back up out of the gutter. I guess when you put the usual group of people in charge of any "think tank" they are going to resort to their usual behavior.
Legion357 Just wait a minute
Morrison is a leader in education in Texas. After all it was her house bill now state legislation that allows universities to up thier tutition without any oversite.
Before anyone asks, yes I support UHV s downward expansion.
That being said, I do believe, that I trust Mr. Wilson s judgment concerning the expansion more than a local commission.
The UH system is in the business of higher education, does any member of the Crossroads Commission on Education have any experience providing higher education? Other than a state representative, who only votes yea or nah for funding ?
The hubris of this commission, the members actually think that they run the show.
Excuse me "parting ways with the UH System. "
Again, what leverage is there to back that statement up?
Also ... "If there's not good planning and an institution gets in a situation where they come to the legislature for an emergency appropriation, there may not be funds," Morrison said.
So Mrs. Morrison expect the projected state budget shortfall of 15 to 18 billion dollars in the next biennial budget cycle to just disappear and that funds for a UHV expansion will be available?
To what? A different university system? Mr. Jacobs claims contact has been made.
So the hand picked Crossroads Commission on Education sends a little threat to the UH board of regents.
UH better build a new campus now or we will.... uhhh... yeah we will.
You will do what exactly? Invite a different University system to build when UH won't?
What leverage does the statement "cut ties with UHV" actually carry?
All that that does is alienate a committed University system, and IMO, make any other University system think, "Whoa, a group of people in this little town pressured UH to get their way?, Do we really want to commit to them and give into every demand they make?"
longgone, if you believe the things you say, then do agree that those are valid reasons to change UHV?
you don't live here anymore do you?
At last the UH system has shown some leadership regarding UHV. Everyone knows, or at least should know, that the vast majority of UHV students are in Sugarland or other locations and not in Victoria. Only around 500 students actually attend classes at UHV, and most of its classes are online. If UHV wishes to attract more students who they claim have no access to higher education, they will need to teach developmental classes, which is the purview of community colleges. UHV will never attract academically competent students because it has such low academic standards, and it will never be a destination university because Victoria is not a desirable destination. People who have lived here forever seem to love it, whereas professionals who move here to work can't wait to get out. Savvy students either attend college elsewhere or go to VC to get an excellent two years of academically solid courses and transfer out of town. Place bound students go from VC to UHV and graduate with degrees in subjects for which their are no jobs, except for teaching. Unfortunately, Victoria schools are filled with UHV graduates, which accepts D's from VC as valid coursework, and no one ever heard of anyone failing a course at UHV. The community leaders pushing this nonsensical waste of money want to be associated with a "real university" because they think it will turn a sow's ear into a silk purse. UHV is all hype and PR.
maybe Jacobs can tell us what universities have look to come to Victoria
A&M and Tech.
Good now who did they talk to and why was it kept secret
We, are all familiar with rumors lets get to the facts
""I told the board of regents that other university systems have contacted local businessmen about locating a campus in Victoria," Jacobs said"
Ok which other university systems contacted what businessmen and why has this been kept silent
What's the big secret
So the commission is going to regroup on Tuesday morning to see if they can figure another way to push their project through?
Instead of that, why don't you guys try to tackle the VISD situation? Lord knows, that alone could keep you all busy for some time just trying to figure out how to effectively manage all the new schools and the actual education of the kids in them.
Starting at the top, making a destination university in Victoria, seems very premature. If you don't get a handle on the problems in the lower grades, all the expansion in the world is going to be moot.
I would suggest this commission either get honest and change the name to the "University of Houston Victoria Expansion Project to Benefit Local Land Owners and Others' Egos" OR actually address the entire problem, as they claim is their mission.
Do you find it interesting that after just a very few meetings, the Commission was able to present a report to the UH Regents? Makes me think the first meeting wasn't the first meeting.
Plus, what do we do with Jaguar Hall? Patrick T. Barnes
Yepper, Polasek wants to build a street before a campus even exists. Talk about putting the cart before the horse, that's what this town council is all about.
It is a wasted effort to expand UHV more than necessary until significant improvement.
It will always be hard to attract anything with "spend a penny to save a dollar mentality" leadership.
Is it me or do I see stupidity in this statement. "I can understand how any other system would be interested in this university, because it's very successful, and not only successful, but academically it is rated very high. It is strategically located to attract and educate the population we need to attract. That is all, of course, the stated goal of Closing the Gaps".
AGAIN what about JOB CREATION ??? What about HB3015 that help increase tutition rates?
Sounds like the Chairman is a reasonable and responsible leader for UH. Unlike the local "leaders" who can't wait to whizz away OUR money to build anything that benefits their own (and their buddys) pockets.
Victoria's demand is not strong enough to mandate this wasteful spending of local and state tax dollars. Prove otherwise. Enrollment? Low. Local demand for better educated workforce? Four year program already available (plus a myrid of other state funded schools).