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There are so many sides to this issue. The Navy took the land from the original landowners, then instead of returning land to them, it became Goliad County property. Maybe the county commissioners are worried about not getting re elected if they took the money from the Navy this time around because the few vocal folks in Berclair are just that, vocal. The monies will not go to the city of Goliad as one writer stated, this will go into Goliad County coffers. When the Navy was on site before, Goliad got nada out of it, folks rented in Beeville, shopped in Beeville, etc. I am for the Navy using this as we are at war and I so want my military to be the best they can be so we do not lose so many of our men and women due to lack of training.
i just got off the phone with a member of the commissioners court and if you have the time and want to participate they have public meetings the 2nd and 4th monday of the month at 9am.
he also said that they have no deffinent plans to fight the navy as of yet and waste money on something that isnt going to change. we need to go and voice our opinion. so they dont do something we dont want. also go out and vote! make an informed decision and make them know they speak for us not an agenda!!
As if turning down over 2 million wasn't enough the county will try to fight the inevitable. How much will this cost the taxpayers?
@ GoliadChica "You know what we like about Goliad? That is stays small and people mind their own darn business."
Maybe that is why you like Goliad....but maybe not why I do. And it IS my business when its my tax dollars going to get thrown out like trash on a fight that we should have never started!!!!!!
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You know what we like about Goliad? That is stays small and people mind their own darn business.
Why don't some of you try it some time?
If we don't want the Navy in here, they should stay the heck out.
Bigger isn't always better.
Maybe Mr. Kirk's offer of over 2 million to open a distribution center should've been considered. Oh well. Too late now.
Say...what about that uranium mining and the judge requiring more pump testing? Remember the property owners who's water wells were affected? All those wells finally calmed down when they quit drilling. This time, when they get full of iron bacteria again, the reason cannot possibly be attributed to "natural conditions" like last time. This time there's a judge watching.
the Goliad County Commissioner's Court needs to scrutinized for passing up on the 2mil offer from the navy.
i dont see maybe businesses lined up waiting to lay roots in that area.
You know, this is ridiculous. The Navy offers an obscene amount of money for this place, way more than its worth, and they refused it. They played nice for months and the bottom line is, they were always going to get it. Now these incredibly bright elected officials, after having lost quite a bit of money when they didn't take the 2.3 million, are going to waste more money on trying to fight something that they cannot win. What brilliance...I am blinding by it all the way over here!
The misconception about the training aircraft being used is that these will be single engine turboprop aircraft, not jets. There is no jet training out of NAS-CC. Looks like Goliad will now be getting fair market value instead of 2 million. When you have a extremely underutilized facility at your disposal and someone offers to take it off your hands-take it!
Looked at the map and need to ask if the Navy will be doing landings and take-offs from US Hwy 59?
That is a shame that Goliad would not want to take part in training our nations military. I guess the board members are probably...... hotel owners.......They dont want our forces getting any stronger. God forbid our country stay strong......
boomhauer, i went to that a few years ago and im sure it has grown since ive been but it wasnt much more than alot of rednecks watching fast cars go down the runway hoping something blew up. sure the cars were nice...and fast but still. a corvette did actually blow up while we were there and yes my redneck husband thought it was awesome lol.
idk what the problem is. the only thing the airport has been used for in the past few years that i know of are car races and the county certainly isnt making much money off of that. we already have planes flying over head as it is. so why not add a few more. seems like we have bigger issues with theft and vandalism that the county isnt addressing than with the use of an airport that will hopefully bring more businesses and people to town to help boost the economy. the city government needs to wake up and acknowledge the problems it has instead of trying to keep growth and development from happening.
isnt this the airport where the texas mile is held twice a year? where hundreds of the wealthiest people in the world converge to race their exotic cars and spent some big $ in goliad and the surrounding area? and has had numerous tv appearances and given goliad international attention? sounds pretty valuable to the little town.
I guess Goliad doesn't need 2 million to improve the city..I really didn't know you guys were rich over there!! When money is so tight you just want to throw away 2 mil plus bring in new people into your town to spend money and help your small business survive the economic downturn...I cannot believe that this littletown would turn our military and our soldiers away!! Did some of the citizens of Goliad come from San Francisco, where they love to spit in the face of our military? Hey Military would you consider a move to Victoria, we would love to have you here!!!
Support our troops or moan about the NOISE? These brave men and women put their life on the line, but someone is worried about the inconvience. Have you ever been on a dirty military base?
The Navy giveth...The Navy taketh away...Way to show patriotism, Goliad...
These red county hypocrites are no different than welfare queens, they feed of government pork. Goliad County is full of small government, anti-welfare teabaggers types. But, just look through here and see who’s tin cup runneth over. And 2 million is not enough?
We’re at war and these “patriots” don’t want or armed forces training there because of the noise?
Support the troops. Oh, unless they want to pay 2 million to train...lol
Speaking as a former Navy wife, I don't think you see the positive in this for Goliad and small businesses. The military will move in people. People rent houses, people shop and people enroll their children in school and participate in local activities. It will be an economic boost. As far as aircraft, this is a roll over base. Which means it will basically will be a shop to fix and test aircraft. The only time there will be aircraft in the air is for test runs and when they head back to CC. It isn't like they are going to dog fight or try to create a sonic boom over town. Even though it is pretty awesome. They also repspect the times of civilians. It isn't an all the time affair. You will either be at work or school, not sleeping.
Just take the money - you only paid one dollar. We all know that 10-15 years from now they will sell it back to you. Whatever you do dont piss them off - trust me. Tell them you had to look tough for your citizens but really deep down you wanted to get rid of it. Then 10-15 yrs from now they will sell it back to you for $1 instead of turning it into a nuclear waste storage facility. You will not win this - Remember Matagorda Island! Remember Matagardo Island! LOL!
Thank goodness SOMEONE sees the right side of this issue: OutofTowner! This is local government owned property where the MAJORITY of Goliad residents have stated they DON'T want the airpark, but the federal government wants it anyway and will come in and take it using eminent domain. This stinks to High Heaven! I hope this county fights this to the hill as well.
I don't normally agree with the Goliad court but this time I do. We don't want the loud, low flying planes. I see and hear enough military helicopters flying at tree top levels already. We don't need more. I would gladly pay a little more in taxes to keep the military out.Sometimes that money tree y'all are referring to comes with huisache and rosehedge growing under it. We might loose this battle but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try. We will likely loose but let's not just curl up in the corner like a frightened puppy.
GUESS GOLIAD COUNTY DON,T NEED THE $2 MILLION,,THEY MUST HAVE A MONEY TREE SOME WHERE THAT THE GOOD PEOPLE OF GOLIAD DON,T KNOW BOUT,,WHAT MAKES MORE SENSE,,TAKE THE $2 MILLION AN PUT UP WITH THE NOISE OR LOST THE $2 MILLION AN STILL PUT UP WITH THE NOISE AN LOST THAT MONEY TREE TO LAWYERS AN THE COURTS,,
so they've had it since 2000 and im wondering how many offers have walked through the door ?
has the county done anything to improve the property ?
eminent domain- The government wins again. Should have sold it when you had the chance. Goliad just lost $2 million! Now you will have to have a tax to land your plane in Goliad. Gotta make up that $2 million some how!
They should condemn that whole damn town......
You people are going to get creamed - again.I can see already, La Bahia's Naval Air Field Massacre Re-enactment.