wildcat33 (anonymous) says...Let's be clear here, the real issue is not code violations, it never was. Code violations were just a means for the city to shut it down when they received a complaint. The complaint was in regards to the content of the tours, but the city can not regulate the tours. You following me here?Someone went on the tour & told someone else about it. That person was deeply offended because the tour claimed that the hospital was a shut down mental hospital and that murders occurred in the basement, neither of which is really true. But cmon, it's a ghost tour, they make stuff up for the entertainment value. It's all in fun, but the offended person has the ear of Mr. Puente. Mr. Puente gets all puffed up & suddenly starts making demands of the property owner, seemingly out of the blue. All this after the chief of police and others personally toured the facility when it was open to tours and they had no problem with it. So, you tell me, is it okay that one woman gets her nose bent out of shape about the content of a ghost tour and Mr. Puente shuts the place down without fully considering the ramifications? Nope, it's not okay. Mr. Puente you owe Yorktown and the hospital owner an apology for your rash actions. Let them have their ghost tours and shoot the little film, before you shoot yourself in the foot again.
The owner of the building is not attacking anyone, he has complied with the city's order to close the building to the general public. He wanted to have people walk through during Western Days, but kept it closed off after his request to the city was denied. Mr. Ross has not made negative comments about the city council and has not challenged their ruling other than stating his case during the city council meeting and requesting guidance. The issue is that the owner does use this building as storage, it's the purpose of why he bought the building. The previous owners also used the building for storage, so there has not been a change in usage of the building. The owner does have a personal interest in paranormal investigations, and has allowed people to come and investigate in his building, but this has been a hobby and is not the "purpose" of the building, it still remains storage. People who have enjoyed this building over the years are the ones claiming foul, and speaking out against the decision. I think it's just a matter of classification, and something the owner and the city need to discuss personally and come to an agreement. The city can't expect him to bring the building up to commercial code if it's not being used as a commercial property.
I don't understand why everyone is getting so upset over the hospital!...Yorktown's administration (mayor, council and etc) are always trying to promote Yorktown so more people will come, what's the difference with the hospital?Whether it be Western Days or the Yorktown Hospital, I thought the objective was to spotlight Yorktown?
storage??? who tours storage??? who invites "personal guest" to tour storage??? who has to have guest sign waivers when they visit thier homes??? who's making excuses now??? you definitely don't want to go to court. if you do, they will order it fixed, or condemed. c'mon, now; call it what it is, get it fixed, and move on. the PA system may be a little overboard but get the rest fixed up and move on. you aren't helping your case by bashing the city or it's officials. the place was looking a lot better this weekend. the sign was gone, grass was cut, and it almost looked like the historic building you painted in the comments. what's done is done so, keep it up and move forward.
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Those making negative remarks need to move along - there is no sense to your reasoning - eyesore - PA system - plumbing??? come on! what is the reason behind these things - Yorktown (AKA Mr Puente) saw the hospital a threat to the town - ha ha ha - they need to send him on his way - any reasonable fool can see this a block in the city favor - they block the income (little income it makes now) due to violations. All the people that have went there (myself three times) have seen no problem with the building. Those trying to close it down need to wake the H@ll up!!! I f you see it as a danger to the public - where the H@ll were you two years ago when it opened?
The owner needs to stand up and face the city (again AKA mr Puente) head on - He can take this to court and easily win based on what the city is saying. Plumbing? roof? If people are signing waivers (and they are according to me!!!) let them enter - what harm is there??? Enter at your own risk! and they do! So what - how does someone entering a building your problem - Get off your high horse and see the reason!!
All I hear are EXCUSES! Excuses to keep it closed - no reason to keep it closed. Excuses are lies! Reasons are something else. I hear no reason to shut it down - it is storage for someone's stuff - If that is the reason to shut it down - lets go to everyone's garage and mini storage and close them down too for plumbing and PA systems? Lame - Lame - Lame.
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Eyesore - every building in Yorktown is almost an eyesore. Drive some of the side streets and some houses are about to fall down - nor problem there?..... lol
Current owner is trying his best to clean it up and maintain it to the people who want to visit it. It has been storage for so long and no one ever said anything about the growth then - why now all of the sudden? Mr. Puente is the only man in town and runs everything I guess - President of Yorktown since he is the only one speaking.
And what is up with the PA system. Really? Does every building in Yorktown that close in size have a PA system? If that is one of the reasons - I really want to go to every CITY building and find those PA systems there - or they can shut those down too.
People who think the place needs to be shut down - need to OPEN their eyes - The place is getting recognized for what it can be - and with the TV crews wanting to get in there - that is more money not for the building to get up to code (roof and plumbing) - but money for the town - people will flock to that town and spend, spend, spend. But I guess they don't want that - (Close the Western days down and get rid of all the billboard signs that are an EYESORE to look at down the road advertising it)
I say ban Yorktown till it wakes up - don't buy anything from there - don't eat there - and don't even drive into town. Let the town die - Mr Puente is trying to do it now - let's help him by speeding up the process.
I say "SAVE THE YORKTOWN HOSPITAL" - I will support it too! I would love to see it reopen fully and make those wanting to shut it down roll theirs eye some more.
If it is just roof and plumbing - lets find some of those professionals and get it done ASAP!!! If anyone knows someone - get the word out!
I for one think the tree growth across the building is very appealing, I think it adds alot of character to the building. Tree growth and grass are not violations and have nothing to do with the current issue at hand. I would point out that the owner has already stated he is having someone cut the grass and make the building look more "presentable" for western days, so your concern with the vegetation around the building is already being addressed. besides the windows that have been purposely made to keep the broken look but fixed as to preserve as much of the original glass as possible, this building's outer appearance is not any worse than other buildings along main street.
@WIRE5050 - First of all, the Yorktown Hospital is not a business...it is a privately owned historical building by Mr. Ross that just so happens to be a old hospital. As MFelts said, it is his private storage "warehouse" that is not open to the public, only the guests Mr. Ross gives permission can enter it's doors. Second, as I stated in my last post, we are in the process of getting a group of supporters to work together and clean up the outside of the hospital and do minor repairs. Who is to say that if we do all of these "upgrades" to fix the violations, that the city will even allow us to open the hospital's doors again? They may just keep adding to the list so that we can never have visitors ever again. All I can say is we are not giving up without a fight! The Hospital is too important to a lot of people and we will not let them shut the doors forever! We have over 379 supporters as of right now and the number keeps growing everyday!
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To the Citizens Of Yorktown,
Do not let them destroy your history. Just ask Victoria Preservation in Victoria, the city destroyed Historic buildings (hospitals,city hall,stores,ect) that they thought had no place in a modern town like Victoria and now they are trying to rebuild Victoria and make it look historic.....Don't let them do this to your town.
Yes tear it down if they cant make it look good and appealing to people then tear it down. Same thing should have happened to the old primary building. Sad that someone burnt it down but it also was an eyesore. When people come to town they notice 2 things very well kept properties and trashy properies. I would have to say the old hospital is very trashy. Yorktown even has a "Keep Yorktown Beautiful Committee." The hospital would never get to be the business of the month in Yorktown. If you want to save the hospital fine but fix it up and cut the grass and trim the tress around the place to make it more appealing.
When towns have home tours especially historic home tours--is each house inspected for code violations or required to have a PA system? Bet they would be pretty put out if you asked to use the bathroom. So how is this different than a home tour?
It surprises me that there is even one person who would comment that this building should be torn down. Yorktown prizes itself on it's history, the official website of the city makes this claim yet there are people in town who would destroy or permanently shut down a building that has touched most of the town's citizens in one way or another over the years? If there is truely a landmark in this city, Yorktown Memorial Hospital is it. People drive great distances just to visit the hospital, no other building has this kind of draw. It is very short-sighted on the cities part to not close this structure down. As for the code violations, people have been touring this location for over 2 years, visitors include the mayor and the police. There has not been any accidents nor has anyone gotten hurt in that time period. Those against this building keep quoting that it's to protect the people, yet Yorktown Memorial has a better safety record than most retail stores.The bottom line is this is private property, it's not a city owned building nor is it an amusement park. The owner is using his right to bring in people with similar interests to view the location, it is not open to the general public. The owner uses this location as storage, you would not expect a storage shed to have a PA system, electricity ... etc ... it's a huge storage "warehouse".
"the code requires a public address system in such a facility."This would be a ruin for the paranormal investigation -- how would you ever know if everything wasn't from someone on the PA. This is an old building, the things that are still intact from when it was built make it interesting. If you go in and renovate everything, it loses its essence of the past. Have all the old buildings in Yorktown that are in use or for rent been inspected?
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@WIRE5050 - I understand the hospital needs to be cleaned up and manicured on the outside. That is not a problem because we have had an overwhelming support group of people willing to help with minor repairs and clean up outside, but to say, "Now lets demolish it and get it out the way." is no way to talk about this historic piece of history. How insensitive can you be to even make a statement like that? Especially the hospital you were born in! Why would you rather demolish the building than preserve it? I guess I will never understand, but your comments aren't going to change my plans for the future of the Yorktown Hospital!
I was born in the Yorktown hospital. I go to Yorktown at least twice a month and pass by the old hospital. I am ashamed of how run down it is. There are high weeds everywhere and old broken down farm equiptment in the parking lot and a plywood sign spray painted tours on it. Thank you City of Yorktown for closing this eyesore down. Now lets demolish it and get it out the way.
What happened to the Mayor and the Council? Is Mr. Puente the representative of the people? Mr. Ross...if you want the council to do anything, you have to put yourself on the agenda so that the council can actually deliberate. Getting on the agenda may be a problem since Mr. Puente is probably the one making up the agenda. Mayor Hernadez can also put the matter on the agenda if he decides he wants to discuss the matter. As for the three people Mr. Puente alluded to that are against the proposal, let them speak for themselves. It appears that Mr. Puente has become the all powerful and the City Council are only figureheads.
"There are no plans to do anything else with the hospital," Puente said. "As far as I am concerned, it's off the table."
Wow, so if someone lets someone else visit a home that was not up to code (probably 60 to 70% of the homes here in Yorktown) then the city can come in and regulate the visitors and purpose of your personal property?
I said it in a comment on the last article, and I will say it again, nothing Mr. Ross does or says, or anyone else, will change or sway the powers that be. Its a shame but there it is. Mr. Puente said so himself.
Were I you, Mr. Ross, I think I would take this is as a violation of my rights as a property owner in this great state and I may have to use my god given skills as an attorney to assist them in seeing the fault in this.
I guess what makes me angrier than anything is that before anyone even spoke at this meeting it is MORE than obvious that Mr. Puente had already made up his mind and there will be no compromise from him or the city.