@ jason
"...finishing a real high school education".
LOL, HE WOULDN'T HAVE GOT THAT AT WEST ANYWAY, DUH!!!!!!!

@ jasonb,
NO WHERE IN MY COMMENT DID I MENTION IT WAS ANY THING TO DO WITH THE DRESS CODE THAT CAUSED HIS CONFLICTS OUT THERE. NOT WISE TO JUMP TO CONCLUSION.

I'm sure Zonky Deals can come up with a better discount!!!!

www.LLBeanBusiness.comUp to 20% Volume Discounts on Personalized Uniforms & More. This was a sponsored link on this article. LOL too funny

NO JEANS ALLOWED!!!! That is what will happen people and that is sad!!

If this is such a big deal, make them wear uniforms and be done with all this already. Talk about focusing on things that do not matter... Another fine example Victoria sets. It will never end lol...

Dress code, gay rights, abortion, church and state. And another bank (store) opens.

Yeah, if we did it your way it would be ok to wear frayed jeans, then it would be ok to wear jeans with small holes, then jeans with huge tears, then shorts, then gang garb, then tattoos, then, then then...

Have any of you ever attempted to manage 1500 kids who think a little differently, with no rules? Oh, I forgot, each one of those kids have a parent or two whose feelings you have to consider as well.
Each of whom will slowly push the rules a little at a time unless the rules are enforced?
At what point would you be comfortable stopping any of this? There are more kids going to these schools than just the Valedictorian and Salutatorian. Kids from every walk of life. Do any of you have a stopping point?

Or would you rather just say, "Show up however you want and we'll try to teach you"?

Anyone??? Anyone???

When these kids get to college, they can wear their pajamas to school if they want to. So what does it matter what they wear as long as they are not disrupting their class or disrespecting their teachers. That is what the administrators should worry about.

Correct me if i am wrong.. But is ms crick the principal that was at Howell middle school when her and Juan Gonzales underhandedly moved the best principal at Howell Middle School out .. Principal Marooney ! Then she was given a chance at Hopkins Elementary and i have no reason why!!.. Now she at a High School.. Living proof keep messing up as a principal in a small school and you surely will get a promotion in the Big Schools, Unbelievable... Perfect example; Nancy McCord then was asst principal at Howell --- My daughter was being bullied at Howell Middle School and she knew of it, but didn't take any action until i as a parent realize something was going on and asked her about it and then she owned up to having both children in office and the other girl was picking, calling names, harassing, etc too my daughter. My daughter suffered some extreme problems behind this.. and guess where Nancy McCord is Asst Superintendent.. Well I'll Be Darn! Now how again is this system working and why is the Private School getting more admission's ... VISD get with the program seriously..

While I agree with the "rude" part, I find it absolutely "necessary".

I didn't point out any one student nor any staff member. The good people know who they are. They shouldn't worry. The "thugs" on the other hand are all to aware of who I am referring to.

The Administration that allows it, well I probably have a few "rude" comments for them as well.

Don't be sad vet43, where it was directed it wasn't cruel, it was the truth. If I saw the same thing at St Joe or West, I would have told the truth as well even if it sounded cruel, rude or unnecessarry to some of you.

a wild snorlax appears

"House of thugs" commit was rude and unnecessary.

Jasonb, If you believe that Victoria East High School is a "house of thugs" is a true statement you have insulted every student, teacher, parent and staff member of the school. That is just wrong. I find it sad when presumed adults attack our youth with cruel comments.

Don't be confused vet43, I said it and meant it. The good thing about it is that it's true. No matter how hard anyone wants to argue or pretend it isn't the exact way I described they are simply fooling themselves.

Jiggle Jiggle!!!

Sometimes the "dress code" at work will be more laid back. ;)

My oldest did not want to "walk" for his high school graduation, either. I made him do it for me. He was already in college and thought it was silly. Because we homeschooled him, he had the opportunity to attend a nation-wide graduation ceremony held at Disney World, but his college classes conflicted with the date.

We don't have a dress code here at home, and my children still obey rules for dress when they need to. They did just fine for formal nights on our vacation. We play "dress code" for proms, sports banquets, sporting events, and jobs. My son is a lifeguard, so he wears a bathing suit to work. ;)

Ya gotta love the ole "I said that but I didn't mean it that way" logic.

vet43,
So you jiggle some bait out there and I'm supposed to take it, right?

Good luck with your fishing (trolling) trip.

hey rebecca maybe he found out he was going to have to work for a living, pay his insurance,pay rent do want somebody told him to do maybe he wanted to go to the libary and look up a work like responsibility or go in the cartoon section and find the little chick that running aroung yelling the SKY IS FALLING

"I expect the highest standards from VISD employees". "House of thugs". "While I am not apologizing for my statement, let me clairify".

It seems very clear. Victoria East High School is below this person's high standards.

im pretty sure the have a graduation ceremony for ged students

Oh I don't know... Maybe he might want to walk across the stage with the rest of his graduating class? Maybe just because he wants to enjoy finishing a real high school education? Maybe he changed his mind and discovered that the West Principal wasn't so bad after all.

Just because someone posts something on a web site doesn't make it a rock solid decision that will never ever change.

Use your imagination Rebecca, it's not hard.

Jason, why would someone who has passed a high school equivalency exam WANT to go to high school?

saw216,
If you change your mind and decide to have your son return, please make sure you both read the student handbook, and dress code. This willl help you and make your child look nice at school.

Have a great weekend.

West undercover officers are not covered!

WEST HIGH SCHOOL IS A JOKE! AND SO IS CRICK AND HER RULES! EVEN THOUGH IT WAS AGAINST EVERY THING I BELIEVE IN, MY SON QUIT AND GOT A GED! AND WE ARE DONE WITH THE BULL.... THAT GOES ON OUT THERE. THANK GOD.

While I am not apologizing for my statement, let me clarify it a bit.

I'm sure that not every student at East is a thug. I'm certain there are wonderful students there. I have heard teachers there state that "every" student was professional, kind, and well mannered.

I haven't been there this year, but last year, I saw things that didn't quite fall into the professional, kind, and well mannered category.

I know this thread isn't about East, but there are a handful of East folks commenting how West has issues and they don't. I beg to differ with them. East just doesn't police the students like West. Anyone that states otherwise is fooling themselves.

Seriously, are you trying to argue that point???

For the most part, I've gotten a good chuckle out of these posts, until I read "jasonbourne's" comment of East being "a house of thugs." That was uncalled for, rude, and I personally take offense to it. My son is a very proud East Titan, in all Pre-Ap classes, is most certainly NOT A THUG, and he follows the rules. No, he doesn't care for the dress code, esp. that his shirt has to be tucked in at all times, but he knows he must follow the dress code. He untucks his shirt as he leaves the building after the last bell. I have told him that if I get a phone call for any dress code violations, he will be in some serious hot water at home. Rules are rules...like them or not. I have a dress code at my job, too.

College is so much more fun. Hang in there!

ok changing the subject a little--- handing out the students packets of worksheets to work on without explaining what its about is not teaching---- a teacher once told my son find the answers in the book-wow that was great--it was like saying --go figure it out----teaching is explaining and teaching by guiding the student what is being taught so the student can learn and understand subject matter---we moved from that district my son and daughter had all 90's in their classes--now that learning

keep handing out saturday detention until these princesses and princes figure out the EVERYONE must follow the rules in place

Jeans with a frayed area :: the real gateway drug.

Way to go VISD for not letting this interfere with actual issues and for not reinforcing this behavior by giving these parents attention at the school board meeting. Instead of being thankful that the administrators were lenient last year, they feel like they need to nail them to the wall this year. No kids are not above the rules. What percentage of the kids were in compliance with the standardized dress rules? Should a few parents be dictating the rules? I wonder what happens when these parents don't agree with the next rule that is inconvenient to them? Perhaps they would like to tell the principal and assistants how the traffic flow should be directed, what to serve for lunch, and what school hours are acceptable. I hope West won't allow these parents to continue to be disruptive and try to dictate the rules as they see fit.

The thing is, if you let one thing slide, it opens the door for everyone else trying it too, with much worse offenses. It's either all one way, or don't enforce it at all, because you cannot let one do something that is against the rules, and not let another.
All it takes to fix those pants is a cute little patch of some kind. You still have the pants, and didn't waste any money on them. No big deal, at least not to the extent this article makes it out to be. Unless, patches aren't allowed either?

Irritated--if your boss changed your dress code tomorrow and required you to wear a green uniform--would you continue to wear your regular clothes because you had already bought them or would you follow the dress code? Following a dress code is a part of education, its learning how to function in the real world. And just as you do, your child can wear anything she wants outside of school.

Wanted....
Grown ups willing to tell their children that they are not their best friends they are their PARENTS. And they have to follow rules all their lives.

"And all this time I was "frayed" I would flunk English, Math, Chemistry and all that dumb stuff I will never need."

Exciting....1st week and 50 comments on the dress code. Looking forward when the proper hygiene comes into play...
Looks like another great year for VISD.

myvu,
Do you dream this stuff up or is this an example of the fantasy world you live in?
Go crawl back under your rock!

I hope I'm not going to offend anyone by saying this but...

I have a funny feeling that VISD students will be required to wear khaki pants and a single color polo type shirt at each campus by next year. If EVERYONE made their children dress appropriately to begin with, the district probably would not have ever put this particular dress code in place. Unfortunately there are many parents that don't so much as glance at what their kids are walking out the door in so the district has taken it upon themselves to set the standard and allow the administrators at each campus to interpret it as they see fit. I always remind my kids that the rules are the rules regardless if they like them. The farther they push with something like this the harder the administration is going to try to enforce it. It is turning into a big whizzing contest!

If a child was sent home because of the area of pants being shown in the picture, then Mrs.Crick needs to be sent packing.

Wasn't Mrs Crick the best principal when hired for West? The whole time the schools were being built, all that was ever remarked was that West was getting ALL the BEST teachers and coaches. Don't believe me, just ask the unhappy parents now that were the ones preaching this a year ago. And don't even argue this, because YOU know it is true!

I love the photo! Wear what the school tells you to wear, get the best education you can, go out and make a life for yourself. Quit wasting our time.

I'm pretty sure visd had the same complaints in the late 80's when torn and shredded clothing were all the rage.

the more things change, the more the stay the same.

After my kids came home and told me what all was going on with the whole jean issue, I got out the 2011-12 Student Dress Standards For Secondary Students. While reading it I had to chuckle. Here is how it reads.

"Pants, shorts, skorts, skirts, or capri pants for females and pants or shorts for males are allowed. These items must be solid black, khaki or navy blue in color. Jean may also be WORN. SHADES of any blue, black or khaki jeans are allowed. Embellishments allowed on back pockets only, as long as they are no deemed a distraction by administrators.

Mrs. Crick please define the word WORN. Does that mean they can be distressed? They can be SHADES of any blue...does that mean at one time or can they appear worn? LOl For those of you that suggested duct tape, Mrs Crick is considering that an embellishment...no lie.

As a side note, last year Mrs. Crick hires her daughter on campus for a position as a teacher in which she was not a certified teacher or had any teaching experience. I have seen her on the campus last year in the same jeans she is sending these kids home for. My daughter had her last year and as an active dad I was shocked at her "teen like" dress on campus.

Mr. Barnes, you hit the nail on the head. If V.I.S.D. decides to control the color of the solid shirts and style of the short/skirts/pants, then they have to provide uniforms (via voucher) to all free lunch students. This is just there way around it.

As for Mrs. Crick, if you have been around her for anytime at all, then you know this all about control. I have a family that has worked for her when she was at the elementary and middle school level. Now we have very good friends at both campuses. Even wit the teachers she is known for screaming and slamming this to get her point across. Her school was rated unacceptable and know students, parents and teacher.........you will now pay.

I am also told that even though there is nothing in policy that defines what kind of belt, she is now sending them home for any belt that includes rhinestones or colors. If you don't have another belt then welcome to ISS.

May I add that the West campus has name tags (East does not), and the name tags are a great thing to have. But, she has decided that if you forget yours and don't have a $1 for temp one, head on over to ISS. My kids are both top 5% and if they forgot there name tag once, which did happen to one of them one time, straight to ISS and this goes on your permanent record.
You guys think this is about her tying to have standards or that as parents we are just rocking the boat, you guys really need to have to observe this woman. It is unreal what a hot head she is.

I HAD to show this article to my oldest. He originally supported the VISD dress code because he thought it was created to stop "the kids from wearing their pants at their ankles." I showed him the picture of the girl wearing jeans, a tucked in polo, and belt.

We decided that the VISD dress code is not about making sure that students do not wear distracting clothing. It's about control.

When rules are created with no logic or common sense, there's something more learned than "compliance." You teach children to NOT respect authority, because you modeled that authority is not logical.

I think that legalism is disgusting. For my younger ones, I'll use this article to show the difference between "spirit of the law" and "letter of the law." I'll ask them why a small fray on a pair of jeans would be "distracting" or what they think the logic behind the rule against them is...

I support the parents who speak out and complain about nonsensical rules! You are showing your children that authority can be logical and you are demonstrating your disagreement in a peaceful way.

It is sad. The situation needs to be resolved, and be the same throughout the system. I would not be happy if my child were turned away from school because of their clothing, but, I also would be a little disappointed in myself for stretching the dress code. Have the parents gone to the principal? Just wondering since it appears a lynch mob against her has formed.

only in VISD. This is actually very sad. although I must applaud the West HS administrators for sticking to a very strict set of codes and policies. At the end of the day West HS will not have very many problems. Sounds like West administrators won't bend and sure don't mess around. It's a sign of a good cohesive set of school leaders, which in turn makes for a very nice, peaceful school environment.

irritated-sorry, you did compliment East, as you should. They have no part in this issue. This all boils down to a difference in what each school principle deems acceptable. I personally have not met either principal nor do I know which one is right or wrong. All I do know is that when my child went to get school clothes, I did tell her not to bring home any clothes with holes, frays, distresses, whatever you want to call it. Regardless of how individuals want to twist it, the rules seemed simple enough for me, and I am an East side THUG parent!

WOW... MyVu... Your view sucks! - it's more than middle upper class complaining! I didn't slam East...don't be rude. I'm sure each school has their fair share of issues. I complimented East on how they handle this... TRUST ME... if East hammered y'all like we're getting it, you'd speak up too. If you say ya'll wouldn't, you're lying!
My child works for her money to buy these things...I had her work her butt off this summer to buy clothes she can't wear for a rather Stupid reason (much like your comment about west- stupid).
Also, this isn't meant to slam eachother, it's meant to fix issue- offer help / positive of get off here.

Why even bring East into this. Oh wait, I know, West sides drill team embarrassment last year, and lets not forget that disappointing football season!

Dear TxEx- while I understand & appreciate what you're saying, I want to be clear. These are very very small distress marks! I wear them myself, without problems & I have for years, while holding down a job that pays very very well! This isn't a "job"... It's school! I went to school, graduating all A's, college degree, excellent job... All without someone policing my clothing! The clothes are not going to make miraculous grade/conduct
changes?! Your good grade kids will still do good, your troubled kids will still cause trouble. Buttoning a polo & wearing jeans with nothing on them will not change what's important... What's on the INSIDE!
As for preparing them for "real world", I've done that... Not by her
clothing but by her ability to be a good
person. My child is honest, kind, responsible,
organized, dependable & more. She is ready
for the real world because of the person she chooses to be, not by her clothing.
The frays/ holes/distress in their jeans
doesn't depict the person inside
the clothing! We didn't complain about dress
code, polos, shoes...until they made this
crazy change... Without proper notice! These
ARE NOT HOLES... NO WHERE NEAR
SKIN SHOWING!!! if any of you posting
HAVE NOT SEEN WITH YOUR OWN EYES
WHAT THEY'RE CALLING KIDS OUT ON.... STOP POSTING... it's a waste!
I'm proud of our East sister school! They handle their business in a fair & consistent manner. They show unity & support throughout. I wish we could do the same. Unity & support are so important! Dealing with these crazy issues leaves us divided & unable to move forward in the direction in which we should be going!
But, Most of all, timely notice of these changes in a manor in which EVERYONE could be made aware without question, would have been VERY HELPFUL! We, as did many others, bought following last years rules.

jasonbourne- your house of thugs comment is sorry. Hope one of those 'thugs' don't catch you out somewhere and teach you some manners. I would assume you fall into the category I remarked about in my last comment.

Seems like the West troubles from last year are overflowing into this year! Looks like it is the middle-upper class parents who whine when things don't go their way. Way to set an example for your kids!

Perhaps parents should consider this. In preparing your young adult high school students for life on the outside, maybe you should dress your "child" as if they were going to a job, even a job interview.
In the real world there are dress codes for employment at most places, whether it be offices or industrial. There's a reason for it. Look around to see if your "child" would be employable dressed in certain attire or are you content having your "child" continue to stay in your home past 30 years of age complaining there are no jobs out there.
You come into my business looking like you don't care about the job you are after, it will most likely result in the application review process going the exact same way.

There is really no reason to bring East HS into this discussion. Mr. Crockett is handling the issue appropriately and obviously in a manner which pleases the school, parents, and students. To say East is a "house of thugs" is a horrible statement to make about an entire school. The entire East Learning Community is filled with bright, intelligent and wonderful children that should be lifted up and not put down by someone who "thinks" they have seen something and has the "ability" to "judge" someone. Stay on your West Side.....we don't need your kind around here....

Too many of you people take yourselves WAAAY to seriously. Come on folks, we have a classic West - East rivalry here. Have fun with it.

Not my fault East makes it so easy.

And don't go thumping me upside the head with your bible Mcneley. The good Lord has a great sense of humor I'll bet. Look at the "Boots" campaign for instance.

jasonbourne,
You sure are right, I have not followed Fatguy. However, that's just telling some one go to h??? and enjoy your trip!! wink wink LOL

I think it is sad that people take potshots at East High. "house of thugs" really is that needed. Have any of you thought about building one another up in encouragement, focusing on the things that truly matter. We are all created the same, we all may not have the same privileges ($$$) that others have. "house of thugs" well they are just like you and me and your children and the children of everyone else. They may not be equipped with all, but guess what they make the best of what they do have and they are great people. We are not here to judge others, anytime that you take pots shots at others,you are not building up His kingdom you are tearing it down.
My prayer is that; I pray that people will begin to have as much passion for Jesus as they do for their, sports, their shopping, their cooking, their decorating, their electronic devices, their ........creating a life filled with Him is what makes this whole world a better place. The Love He exudes through us in indescribable. It's so amazing. Reach deep inside and breath deeply may His spirit inhabit your soul. Amen
All of these issues are petty in relation to what is really going on.

cafevida,
If you haven't been following fatguy you should have. He has given us some of the best posts regarding East High School. I put his humor up against any I have seen on this site.

Okay the dress code change was made last year in April after administrators came to the board wanting a better determination on the torn or frayed no skin showing policy. If you don't read the advocate or check the VISD website regularly for changes parents and students were not made aware of the rule change until four days before school when they registered. I as a parent expect my child to follow all rules, but make the rule changes and notify everyone in a timely fashion.

First of all and for the record "I do not have children that belong to VISD". Yes rules are rules!!

Second, to you Fatguy "We should be proud to be West side Warriors. Don't lower yourselves to East's standards." You should be ashame of yourself.....Where is the parenting in you? Why are you stooping so low? People like yourself is what causes this crap. I am embarrassed for YOU!!

Third, please read the following definitions:

dis·tressed    (d-strst) KEY
1. Suffering distress: the distressed parents of wayward youths.
2. Damaged or previously used: distressed merchandise.
3. Intentionally marred or faded to convey an antique or used look: distressed furniture; distressed denim.

fray  (fr)
v. frayed, fray·ing, frays
v.tr.
1. To strain; chafe: repeated noises that fray the nerves.
2. To wear away (the edges of fabric, for example) by rubbing.
v.intr.
To become worn away or tattered along the edges.
n.
A frayed or threadbare spot, as on fabric.

So IF you start putting all these kids in ISS whom are the teachers suppose to teach to and at the same time why are taxpayers having to spend $$ for kids just to sit in ISS and do not a darn thing? Send them home, do community service, juevenille detention or maybe even prison!!

Bottom line if VISD is going to be so me·tic·u·lous about the "fray" or "distressed" jeans, please simply state No Jeans Allowed!!!

and for West High School...

If you have a Janitor, Administrator, Teacher, Coach or any employee that is wearing inappropriate clothing you better get off your butt and make sure it doesn't happen again.

I couldn't tell a cami from camo, but if it is improper FIX THAT CRAP!!!

I expect the highest of standards from VISD employees!!!

first week of school and west hs parents are already exceeding last year's complaining

please follow the dress code rules to avoid this whole situation

To "Kash"- the teachers may be adults but they should set example!! My sister went to Meet the Warriors & apparently the cheer coach was sporting a cami!!! I personally don't find that "acceptable"! It's inappropriate! Small Frey on jeans -VS- teacher on field with a silky/sexy style cami... You tell me which is MORE DISTRACTING?!
As for $80 jeans... Our business to buy. PERIOD...These kids can express themselves in a classy way. During school or after. Although It's not a " fashion show" there are MANY kids who enjoy fashion while still focusing on school & grades!!!!!
They strive to look nice. It can't be helped that some kids, as well as adults, don't put effort into themselves. $80 clothes or $8 clothes (I wear both)... You should not be looked down upon for your effort or desire. My child, with frey jeans, is A/B honor roll,
college bound & dresses the way she does bc she enjoys it! I buy them because I can.

This is an absolute example of what is wrong with our school system. What was wrong with the "no skin' policy. Nope....not good enough to keep it simple, the administration has to get crazy. I went to high school in a place where most kids didn't have any jeans that were NOT frayed....and it was not by choice...it was because three or four of their older siblings had worn them before they got to the student. Come on VISD.....let's worry about the kids reading and writing and not their worn jeans!

I agree with sethn. Duct tape can even come in handy if the car mirror or bumper falls off on the way to school. Duct tape is available in stylish prints and colors. It might be more classy, in south Texas, to use the camo-print duct tape on vehicles, while reserving the leopard-print tape for clothing.

a sign of the times...parents, once again, supporting their children in bucking the "authority" of the school system. parents, be parents at home, & put trust in the administration (surrogate parents at school) that your tax dollars support.
stop trying to be your child's "best friend" & put NO back in the parental vocabulary.

1. This has NOTHING AT ALL to do with "skirting by the rules" or cost of jeans or getting our way! It has to do with principals. I am a very active parent (for the arrogant parent who mentioned above). My child has rules, and follows them, but they are realistic!!! Freys on jeans ARE NOT A DISTRACTION!
2. The "rule change notification" was given by handbook, 2 weeks before school, well we were done shopping by then. Tags gone & clothes washed. Also, apparently by newspaper which is crazy?!?! Not everyone gets paper. I asked around & out of 30 people I asked 7 get newspaper! Great way to announce something important.
3. How nice that East runs their school & program the way it should, not like a Prision. It's case by case. I bet you a years paycheck 99% is inaccurate on "rule following"!! It was the 2nd day! Give it a while & you'll see more! Oh, by the way, thanks for wasting my tax dollar on the "acceptable school attire film"!
4.Since our high schools have been & still are ranked ACEDIMICALLY UNACCEPTABLE how about you all focus on that... WAIT...I'm guessing the frey jeans are the cause?! They are not HOLES, no skin showing... They are cute & trendy jeans with slight frey. The parents standing up against these rules are not trying to "buck the system" or get special privileges... They're tired of the crap! Get it together, focus on what matters! Work on school spirit, unity, grades and maybe one day we'll be "Acceptable"?! Wonder if admin & others embarrassed by our rating?! Maybe they should have "special meeting" on that issue. Throw in our school division & un-equality and you've got yourself a years worth of better problems to worry about!!!

Put a piece of duct tape over the "fray" - then it will be acceptable. Just put a roll in your purse. it might come in handy for other things too...

Rules are rules. We should be proud to be West side Warriors. Don't lower yourselves to East's standards.

Hey here is an idea parents - FOLLOW THE RULES AND QUIT MAKING EXCUSES FOR YOUR KID! Great job madame principal - keep it up.

Most jobs require some type of dress code so why is it so hard for these people to get it. These kids can express themselves and dress anyway they want to after school. School is for education not a fashion show--not to show off your $80 jeans. Just because they sell it doesn't mean it's appropriate to wear. I think after a couple of weeks, they should stop the waste of time in allowing kids to change clothes and just give automatic ISS for infractions.
As for the teacher's dress code, they are adults. I doubt they have teachers walking around in frayed jeans hanging to their knees with shirts so low we can read their bra size.

Bottom line GROW-UP. These kids have always gotten their way. it's time to realize the world does not revolve around you. The article stated you were showed a film. PAY ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and if the jeans still have the price tag on them TAKE THEM BACK and buy the proper clothes.
Hey scropio can you image the chaos of trying to get the same color on the same day they can't even get the right pants LOL

The administration is trying to enforce a pseud-uniform on the students without actually saying it. That way the parents ahve to buy the clothes,not the school! I wonder what would happen if ,say for one month or so,the students could wear ANYTHING they wanted. No restrictions. I think that for a few days some would try to be as outlandish as possible but after the novelty wore off, things wouldn't be that bad. Would be fun to try,though.
Patrick Barnes

Of all the problems with the schools these parents should to dealing with.
Hey parents: do you know what’s going on with the state’s SBOE?

There will always be those kids that try to push the envelope and their parents that will go make a fuss over it. Rules are rules, and if you don't like it, move to another town that does not have a dress code that you detest.

I dont remember a problem in the late 80's when ripped jeans were in fashion. What is allowed at Eat should be allowed at West. IMO

Seems a lot of people don't bother to read the rules regarding proper attire before buying their children clothes. That is not VISD's fault. Read the rules...follow the rules.....simple! Just because clothes are for sale at the local merchants, it does not mean they are acceptable for wear to school.

It also seems a lot of people want to lump in teachers and staff with the students when it comes to dress codes. I will bet however that at home the children don't get the same perks as the adults, so why should they at school?

Lets just get standardized uniforms for all the students and be done with this year after year hassle. So many schools have gone to uniforms and it has been wonderfully successful.

Dress codes are nothing new. Kids have been trying to skirt around them for years. Parents have been monitoring their children's purchases for at least that long - well, at least the parents who are involved in their children's lives. Be the Parent!

Boo hoo hoo, wah,wah, wah! Geez whiners, the rules have been in effect for a year already. FOLLOW THEM!

The school has many rules. The school didn't create the dress code, the school board did. The school I'm sure supported it but they are just trying to enforce it.

The tattoo rule says tattoos must be covered... Should the administrators ignore it if half of a tattoo is exposed?

How about the shaving rule that requires students to be shaved...Would it be ok if they only shaved half their face?

Which one of you want to be the one that determines how far the school lets each rule "slide"? Well that's probably a bad question for this group, because they would be comfortable with no rules.

The guidline has been set, 99% of the parents are able to comply, what is your problem?

This post is aimed at the article not the other posters here. Unless of course the folks are the same.

Ok if they are going to be so at odds with those jeans. Then why dont they just go all out uniform? They already are pretty much with the shirts having to be a certain type and color. Some schools have tan, navy blue, or black khakis or dress pants. Brown or Black belts and shoes. NOTHING but polo type shirts. The girls are the same but they add skirts to the list. No shorts at all of any kind except for PE. Then when it come to winter. Brown or Black jackets or coats. Each day they have a different color of shirt. Like Monday=red Tues=black/browm Weds= white Thurs=green Friday=Blue This is what it is coming to. Get ready parents.

Do teachers and admin. have a dress code?

I think there are other things to consider, first right at 80.00 dollars for jeans!! yes it is wonderful that working for them is right, but the rules are the rules, would you like your rules that you set forward in your home to be broken? well the rules are in place for a purpose sometimes we don't always get the whole picture. School is for learning not how we look. These guidelines are there so that there is a stopping point on how many holes,and skin can be seen! just think about it.

VISD has forgotten the reason kids are in school. That reason is to learn and pass. OH, and the reflection of which is the standardized testing. Uhm... That wasn't so good this year.

The parents have forgotten that THEY are the boss of what is bought to wear to school. Know the rules, parents, and follow the rules... My parents did.

dumb, waste of time.

rules rules rules---and the administrators and some teachers dont look at the way they themselves dress up for what they are supposed to set the example---teach the students and spend less time observing what the students wear----i would let it be as long as the students are making the grade thats what should be their number one concern.