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lets suppose that waywordwind owned a internet cafe. His customers paid him for internet connect time or how ever that works. Is he responsible for what I do while I'm online?????Does my engaging in online gambling from his business make him a criminal???? Was the gambling done on 8-liners or by computer.
If by computer I feel a lot of money spent on investigation was wasted as only the person on the computer actively gambling is criminal the owners only provided a internet connection. what someone does with it would be hard to monitor and not anything the owner can be charged with unless involved in that activity themselves.
Eight-liners are another animal all together. in fact casino gambling should be legalized to keep the up to 8 billion dollars a year spent by texans in texas instead of lake CHARLES AND OTHER LEGAL GAMBLING STATES. sorry cap lock on by mistake.
IMO state won't legalize because it wants a monopoly on gambling (LOTTO,SCRATCH-OFFS) what hypocrits
Familyman...the law that was broken is the one that says, "Thou shalt not have fun unless the state approves of the action and also gets a percentage of the take."
Since so many legislators are lawyers, it should be no surprise that the state doesn't want ANY money changing hands without some of it sticking to the fingers of the government.
To Pat_Murf...............learn to spell or use a spell checker on your blogs. Your blogs will be taken more seriously if they are spelled right. No offence intended. Just want to make you a better blogger. Does anyone know what gambling laws were broken at the internet cafe`? How were they gambling?
This all appears to be a part of the Golden Rule. Those that have the gun makes the rule.
"A tremendous amount of manpower hours and VPD resources were expended during this lengthy "undercover" investigation."
Sounds like a LOT of tax dollars expended on this "investigation."
The big complaint seems to be that the eight-liners are taking money that the bingo people say would otherwise have gone to charity. I'd say the people playing the machines have voted with their dollars and decided which they'd rather play. Thank you, state of Texas, for choosing for your citizens and deciding for them what they should play. Goodness knows we can't let people decide for themselves like free people. Another example of the nanny state at work.
Dec 2, 2009 VA...A local bingo association called on authorities to investigate illegal eight-liner gambling parlors, which they said have cost its charities more than $1 million."During the past three years, members of local charities have met with the Victoria Police Department and the district attorney numerous times about illegal eight-liner gambling," David Heinlein, Palace Bingo manager, said in a statement. Dec.12,2009..."A tremendous amount of manpower hours and VPD resources were expended during this lengthy "undercover" investigation". Our officers were repeatedly paid cash.I have heard this before, but the consequences have been: take the money, fine, close place, lose license..I have never heard the action taken on an establishment to this extreme. Were these individuals more involved in criminal activity than what is being said? I cannot believe this extreme for just paying out in cash.Every other time LCB or an "undercover person" made an observation of people being paid in cash and the establishment was busted. Why has there been "..."A tremendous amount of manpower hours and VPD resources were expended during this lengthy "undercover" investigation" on this Internet Cafe?
Oxymoron...You're right. As long as these Bravo Sierra laws are on the books, Charlie Sierra enforcement types like the Attorney General will continue to enforce them and ruin the lives of people who have done nothing but have a little fun that happens to be illegal. Why were these laws passed in the first place? The patrons of the Internet Cafe just want to have fun. Didja ever hear of different strokes for different folks? Lottery and bingo are legal, but hardly interesting. Just buy a lotto tickert and wait for the drawing. Bingo is as boring as watching paint dry. But, under the law, THEY'RE okay. But let someone play another game of chance, and the state sends its jackbooted thugs to put people in jail.
You know as well as I that there is virtually no hope of getting the legislature to repeal these laws. Once enacted it's as if they were carved in stone. They will remain as long as the christian right conservative republicans control the legislature. Change ain't gonna happen regardless of how hard people lobby for repeal. The conservatives aren't happy by simply not playing the games and not patronizing the places where the games are played. They're only happy when they can tell other people how they can spend their disposable income and what they can and cannot do for enterainment. It's as if they never heard of the concept of mind your own business.
I rest my case.
bleep. why do u attacke me. i was told americans were toleracnt. i am only saying village guvernment is corrupt in my opinion, along with bsplotter justtxslayer, feffry williums, and others. all the proof has been written in thise blogs. only mater time now before we ghet case together to go. daa will clean house. email me if you wanrt to join us.
Pat_Murf, that is the dumbest comment I've read on these blogs, and I've read many.
oxlmorun, i just think zerro is rite. all of the leaders are corrupt, this we know cuase bloggers report it here and the advocate does not fite it. these village leaders should not be allowed to to report these treasuns, not fair to the poor underclassmen. they are picking on the working classmen gamblers
Pat_Murf said " these crimes are minor and should be allowed"
What part of crime don't you understand. It does not matter how small it is. A crime is a crime and therefore punishable. If it were allowed it would not be a crime.
If you don't like a law, take action and lobby against it. Don't just disagree and then decide yourself what crimes should be allowed and which ones are not.
I agree with zerro, the genius who turned in these people was probaly a friend of someone in the village pulice or the village guvernment. anyone who knows a village enforcer or leader should not be allowed to report crimes. these crimes are minor and should be allowed. they are punishing thse poor peeples to harshly.
i think zorro you should look into the corruption and report here. you always are rite.it does stinnk!!!!
Onlooker..."So they are doing what they do, investigating this and such vice crimes."
They have to justify their paychecks somehow. This would be a good place for the state to save some money.
The burning question a lot of people want to know is who/what was the genesis for the investigation into illegal gambling at the Internet Cafe? Was it a citizen complaint made to police through regular channels? Or, was it someone politically connected that is involved in legal gambling in Victoria wanting to get rid of the competetion? I don't know the facts in this case, but if somenoe did sic police on this business, shame on them and shame on the police for acting as enforcers for a personal vendetta. Who contacted the AG and got him involved in what seems to be a local issue? Who is throwing their weight around here? Maybe the truth will eventually come out, but for now, there are lots of questions. Something smells really bad about this prosecution.
Archiebonkers2, I don't think that State Attorney General Office Investigators target murders and the such. So they are doing what they do, investigating this and such vice crimes. The local law enforcement investigate "unsolved murders and the such". Educate yourself.
can't the cops target other crimes? what about unsolved murders and such?
How about "Indicted Internet Cafe owners surrender to authorities"?
Glad you fixed it but I think "themselves" sounds better than "selves"
Yes, it souldn't.
Souldn't it read "owners" instead of owner since it is multiple people? If it were just one person wouldn't it be self instead of selves?