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Editor, the Advocate:

First, I wanted to extend my congratulations and well wishes to Dan Easton and Stephen McHaney on their advancement to executives of the Victoria Advocate.

I am writing about Victoria College's violence against men and women.

In the play "The Vagina Monologues," which has been banned at decent schools, a young girl is raped by an older woman after she got her drunk. The girl describes the rape as a good rape. Brutal sexual violence is praised while good "normal" male-female sexual relations are negatively portrayed. The play equates men with the enemy and pure love with violence. The play has a strong lesbian bias.

Family value organizations have denounced it as "a piece replete with sexual encounters, lust, graphic descriptions of masturbation and lesbian behavior," urging students and parents to protest. Following the protests, performances were cancelled at 16 Catholic colleges.

So the question to Dr. Tom Butler, VC president, is: Why do you allow such garbage into our little local college? There are thousands of other very good plays to choose from. You have a grave responsibility to shepherd our young people. I refer you to Proverbs 12:15 and 16:2 & Deuteronomy 30:19 - "If you want to lift yourself up, lift up someone else." - Booker T. Washington.

William Paul Tasin, Victoria



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  • I consider Tasin as part of the problem in society. I had my problem with him when he attacked the American Cancer Society.

    February 17, 2011 at 6 a.m.
  • I would go to the play but would keep my eyes closed. Is that a sin?

    February 14, 2011 at 1:43 p.m.
  • "This is what the Lord says: 'About midnight I will go throughout Egypt. Every firstborn son in Egypt will die, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sits on the throne, to the firstborn son of the slave girl, who is at her hand mill, and all the firstborn of the cattle as well. There will be loud wailing throughout Egypt—worse than there has ever been or ever will be again.' ”

    — Exodus 11:4–

    It's Yahweh or the highway, baby.

    February 14, 2011 at 12:07 a.m.
  • Don't Tasin me bro!

    February 13, 2011 at 11:27 a.m.
  • Tasin's sign was out of context. You go to a college to see a play and you have to walk by Tasin who stands at the front door? Can we have a group of people who stand in front of Tasin with a big white sheet so that decent people who enter, a college not an abortion clinic, won't have to see the bloody baby with the guts spilled out?

    February 13, 2011 at 11:15 a.m.
  • Question for anyone--

    Why is it just either Wm. Paul Tasin alone, or Wm. Paul Tasin and Sam Valdiva?

    The rest of you only come out once a year, in a group? Not convicted enough to stand alone like Wm. Paul Tasin? I have to give him credit for being consistent in his convictions.

    The rest of you? When it's convenient, perhaps?

    Just wondering.

    February 13, 2011 at 10:58 a.m.
  • I feel like Tasin harasses women. Everywhere women might be - Tasin will show up with his signs? I told him last night at the college that "no one here will be having abortions tonight, even though many women are gathered..." and he responded with something like, "women get pregnant" and he started talking about all the evils of planned parenthood.

    I was at a play put on by a college. I was not entering an abortion clinic. I am pretty sure that the women in attendance were level headed enough to make good decisions.

    I've stood on street corners with signs that read "choose life" in the hopes that people would choose life. I do not remember signs like Tasin's when I was active in the pro-life movement. The extremism (tactics) has turned me off. His bloody signs at a play are out of place and rude.

    You think I sympathize with the pro-life movement now? Not if Tasin is at the helm harassing women. I'm proud to step away from that movement, even though at one time I actively participated.

    February 13, 2011 at 10:38 a.m.
  • @EA, Yes, I will ask him what he says and how he says it. And I will ask him to amend his literature if this is the case. The difference I am trying to show is that many people use the term "Smoking causes cancer." I think it is understood that not every smoker gets cancer and not every lung cancer patient smoked. In a sense, it is the carcinogen that is linked with cancer. So the common language used is "Smoking causes cancer." If I speak with a medical doctor on the issue, he would correct me and rightly so because smoking doesn't cause it, it is correlated with it. But the general public uses the word "cause."

    Which way is Mr. Tasin using the word? If he is using it in the sense of medical research then he would be wrong. If he is using it in the sense of lay language, I would agree with him all things being equal (meaning assuming the studies are correct). If he is saying it assuming lay language, then you have interpretted him incorrectly. As I have mentioned, tactically, I think developing relationships wins more hearts. Do you blast each person in public forums for saying "Smoking causes cancer?" I ask this in a spirit of charity. It is a good example, because cigarette producers will be showing very graphic images on cig packages soon as well. Will those that find Tasin's methods offensive find the method used to get smokers to quit also offensive?

    Regarding the Susan G. Komen foundation, my understanding is not that the organization supports PP with funding is the only issue, rather it is that SGB's mission is to find a cure and help women (assuming men too, I don't know) who suffer with breast cancer. Here is the dilemna as I understand it: if there is an ABC link, then why does SGK financially support PP who is the number one abortion provider in the nation? It seems contradictory doesn't it? Like I said, this is dependent on a link of abortion and breast cancer. It would seem similar to a lung cancer research organization financially supporting Big Tobacco, a conflict of interest.

    If Northern toilet tissue wants to support an organization, I cannot stop them. But if Northern toilet tissue wants to market bidet's, then if I was a stockholder I would begin to question if this action kinda shoots the paper product line in the foot.

    February 13, 2011 at 10:11 a.m.
  • You, Jared, have obviously never been the recipient of one of his brochures on the subject. There is no 'may' in the equation. It's a definite in Tasin's world. Search his name in the Advocate archives. It's all there.

    What are you going to ask him at mass--if he's lying about the facts? Save yourself the trouble--he'll tell you he's correct. I'm telling you he's not. So there!

    But you could ask him this--does he boycott manufacturers who contribute to the Susan G. Komen for the Cure? If he does, then he needs to quit using Northern toilet tissue. Since 2004, Georgia-Pacific has donated over $600,000 to that cause, and will contribute over $175,000 more in 2010/2011.

    I'm leaving this with: it will indeed be a sad day if, according to the REAL statistics of 1 in 8 women will develop breast cancer, his wife should ever be diagnosed with breast cancer. We would all know then with 100% certainty that she'd had an abortion, wouldn't we?

    February 13, 2011 at 9:35 a.m.
  • @EA, regarding your question of false info: I answered that in my post. I will ask Mr. Tasin if I see him today at Mass. Are you sure he didn't say "Abortion can cause...?"

    Re: cancer link: In a similar fashion, I could say smoking *can* cause lung cancer, for not every smoker gets cancer and not every lung cancer victim was a smoker.

    February 13, 2011 at 9:10 a.m.
  • Breast cancer has more to do with genetics, than abortions. I cannot believe what some people will come up with to scare people into doing things their way.

    February 12, 2011 at 11:36 p.m.
  • I liken Tasin to a gnat......an annoyance, for sure, but easily waved away with a hand; ultimately so small as to be not worth the energy it would take to get a flyswatter.

    February 12, 2011 at 10:59 p.m.
  • Jared,

    There may be 4 studies showing a link between abortions and breast cancers, but there are probably four studies that show a link between hair dye and breast cancer or shaving your legs with a certain brand of shaving cream and breast cancer. No study says it is 100%.

    Not EVERY woman who has an abortion develops breast cancer just as every woman with breast cancer did not have an abortion. Tasin proclaims that there is a connection with 100% certainty, no exceptions! That is where his lie is.

    Do you approve of him purposely promoting false information? I should think not, but as far as I can tell, the only time he's gotten it right (if we are to believe him) is that Nancy Reagan did have an abortion, anb later developed breast cancer. I don't think one comfirmed case makes a conclusive opinion.

    February 12, 2011 at 8:16 p.m.
  • Is Mr. Tasin the man who stands outside St. Mary's church Sunday mornings accosting people as they leave after the worship service or is that someone else? Either way, while he is entitled to his opinions, it isn't right to foist political ideologies on people as they exit a house of worship. Church property is not, I repeat not, the place to advance any sort of political agenda. That's my opinion anyway.

    February 12, 2011 at 11:10 a.m.
  • The first time I saw him with his bloody sign, he handed me literature and I told him that we were pro-life too. But, after he walked in front of us with his sign while we (my then 12? year old daughter) were trying to watch someone speak, I became disgusted with the pro-life movement.

    So... I found out that I am actually pro-choice because I support the use of birth control (not abortion as birth control) and think the issue should be between a woman an her doctor.

    February 12, 2011 at 9:13 a.m.
  • or the message can get watered down...

    February 12, 2011 at 9:05 a.m.
  • I'm confused as to why Tasin was there. He's branching out? He protests plays now? I think that minimizes the pro-life stance because it's one thing to say, "He is against abortion" and another thing to say, "Wherever ANYTHING controversial or female themed is taking place, Tasin is there." Sometimes the person can detract from the message.

    February 12, 2011 at 9 a.m.
  • Mr Tasin briefly made an appearance before last nights show with modified signs that added "porn" to the usual abortion message. He is welcome to his opinion but I am sure he would be disappointed to hear that there was not a spare seat in the theater last night. The production was splendid, thoroughly entertaining, outrageous, provocative, poignant and sad.

    The show has raised (so I was told) approx $1000 for worthy charitable causes.

    I hope there will be a repeat performance next year.

    February 12, 2011 at 8:33 a.m.
  • @EA, good morning. I am still researching the link of ABC, and I would never deduce that every breast cancer is caused or correlated with abortion, for your male breast cancer example is a good way to show your point. However, there have been 4 recents studies that do show a connection. I am approaching the issue wanting to find the truth of it like you. You know my pro-life bias, but furthering untruths or lies, even if they seem to help my pro-life cause goes against my desire to support this cause based on truth. Here is my link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/art...

    You may disagree with his (Tasin's) methods of informing the public and you are in your right to speak to that, I choose to operate differenlty myself, but to say he is lying may not be accurate as recent studies are showing a connection.

    February 12, 2011 at 8:16 a.m.
  • Give it a rest already W. Paul Tasin! Just stop! You are a joke.

    The difference between the scenarios in The Vagina Monologues and your chosen hobby is the scenarios are based on reality while your spew is FALSE! To hear you tell it, every woman who has breat cancer had an abortion, and every abortion leads to breast cancer. What about the men who have breast cancer? Who's abortion is their breast cancer connected to?

    Stop perpetuating the LIE that breast cancer is caused by abortion. Don't you know that bearing false witness against those women who suffer from breast cancer but never had an abortion is a sin?

    Reality bites sometimes, but a LIE always hurts.

    By the way if you think that 'decent' folks stand on street corners show pictures of aborted fetuses to 5 and 6 year old kids is going to impact those kids in some way, then you are, indeed, way more disturbed than I originally thought.

    February 12, 2011 at 6:59 a.m.
  • Mr. Tasin I've read your letters over the years with great amusement. I say amusement because your attitudes regarding certain issues are so backwards as to be almost medieval. Have you read the play or are you merely regurgitating what other, misinformed people have been saying about it? And what is your definition of a good play? Is it a play in which the characters are static, one dimensional caricatures that represent moral archetypes that are impossible to maintain in the real world? Here's a thought for you that I hope you can grasp, not everything in this world is sunshine and rainbows. People can be cruel, manipulative, and outright evil. And if you're going to say family values organizations have denounced the play then you should state which ones. Not doing so makes you look foolish. But as I said earlier you lack clarity of thought. Oh and offering advice in the form of Scripture and historical quotes to the president of VC is a bit presumptuous on your part. But then again you seem to think you're brilliant. Try updating your thinking next time and I might take you seriously.

    February 12, 2011 at 1:27 a.m.