Show me the money!!! Think my vision is a little blurry!!!
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AND, I think everyone knows you shouldn't eat fish with Quicksilver, (mercury), in them, well hell, lets just throw ever thing into the mix to make a point.
"Lemme think, lemme think.
"How long ago did they lift the "don't eat the fish" advisory in the Point Comfort area?
A little mass hysteria 30 or 40 years ago could have prevented that.
At least Invista announced the spill, unlike many others in the past."
In my previous post I was mistaken, parts of Lavaca bay are STILL closed for fishing.
The following was written by an expert in 1947.
"DDT was first used during the war for military needs by trained experts and under careful observation. It was used successfully to control the malaria-bearing mosquitoes, typhus-carrying lice, and other insects threatening the health of our Armed Forces. From this we know that DDT can be used safely. In the United States not a single case of DDT poisoning in humans has ever been proved when the material was used against insects."
YOU mentioned it, right?
Why would you bring up DDT in conjunction with "How long ago did they lift the "don't eat the fish" advisory in the Point Comfort area?" And then post something about DDT?
To separate matters, one has nothing to do with the other.
DDT wasn't that bad actually, New York City and other cities wouldn't be having the bed bug problems they are, if it was still in use.
DDT, when it was allowed to be used, saved many more lives than its side effect made victims of.
Don't you watch the drug commercials on tv today? Use of this drug might cause... ect. ect. ... even death.
Yeah, a bad thing, but geez, it did save lots of lifes, oh well.
DDT has nothing to do with Lavaca Bay, the reason you are not suppose to eat the fish is because of Alcoa, there where not any regulations years ago, and the processing of bauxite into aluminum produced mercury as a waste product. It was discharged in the bay as part of waste water.
The reason the don't eat the fish ban is in effect, is because Lavaca bay is a super fund site, it would take billions more than what has already been spent to clean it up, instead the epa decided to let nature clean it up over time.
A spill! Panic! Not necessarily, contractors vehicles get checked for any kind of leak, or drip, (oil or engine coolant), before entering the plant, if they have a leak, they don't get in.
On the other hand, a contract engineer I know, went to the plant to, well engineer.
He was given a detector to wear around his neck. He asked, "What do I do if it goes off?"
The answer? "Don't worry, you won't hear yours go off, but if you hear someone else s go off, run upwind."
@aggie2006, I commend your well educated comment. Many folks "outside" the fence have no clue what it takes to safely operate a modern petrochemical plant. I retired from "inside" the fence and I remember one golden rule. "If it aint mothers milk or rain water ya got to keep it inside the pipes!"
With out running around yell "the sky is falling" but fact is there are chemical compounds that just a very small amount is very bad. Remember Bopal?
Wow. A perfect example as to how the general public believing they are experts in all subjects can result in mass hysteria. For starters, do you not think Invista would have asked the surrounding areas to shelter in place or evacuate if there was an event that could be potentially be detrimental to their health? Just because a chemical is spilled does it mean that it possesses the chemical properties to vaporize and contaminate an air supply, especially one over a mile away. I have no connections with Invista whatsoever, but I am a safety professional as well as a hazardous materials technician/responder (a certification required to handle a spill of this nature) and speaking from experience, a four hour shelter in place was more than likely inacted to allow for proper clean up, response, and disposal of whatever chemical may have spilled to prevent any unnecessary exposures. There are hazardous material response guidelines in place by NIOSH and DOT that designate what actions must be taken for each chemical spilled, including guidelines for radius around the spill that would need to shelter in place or evacuate. As for reporting the incident to TCEQ, that is dependent upon what chemical was spilled and how much. There is no good sense behind attempting to create mass hysteria and point fingers when you're no more than a self proclaimed professional behind your keyboard.
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Victoria Advocate. Why didn't Amy give you the amount and name of the chemical released? Invista is required to report this info to the TECQ within a short period of time (< 1 hour) or be subjected to a heavy fine.
Tha plant has many VERY hazardous chemicals in huge volumes. A 4 hr shelter in place is a long time. Most releases are caused by human error, which includes lack of maitaince do to cost savings.
Water? Sewage? Maybe a hazardous liquid chemical?? So you shelter in place for 4+ hrs! Something bad here. Ms Edwards probably got a whiff of toxic fumes. What is going on that doesnt get reported?
total breakdown of proper safety procedures
in a perfect world, companies are heavily fined and scrutinized for event like this