Deformed? Really? That's a new one. Which ethnic group is deformed? I mean come on, how is it possible that two people on the same planet be so different? It's got to be some kind of genetic deformity.

Gary, I do not believe your story one bit. I think it was made up and rather poorly at that.

OK Kyle... for arguments sake...lets say that you are born gay at birth. Genetically speaking that person would be deformed. I say instead of agreeing with the deformity, let us instead find a cure. Let the scientists discover a way to treat the affected person. Give him or her the correct amount of hormones he/she needs to match what sex they are physically. It would be no different than any other deformity.

Wow Victoria! These comments are hilarious! Ha, ha, ha, ha...I can' stop laughing. Reading your generally ridiculously archaic, narrow-minded, extreme, and over-the-top judgemental comments reminds me why Victoria has problems...some of you guys, and gals, have thinking that is so ancient, moot, and outdated, I'm surprised we don't still use New England Primers in school. I'm just grateful I've experienced other cultures and parts of the world so I can better see your absurdities and laugh even harder. Thank God for the ability to move away from you crazy people. I have a new ad campaign: Victoria: Home of the biggest cult in Texas.

I hope Gary's church didn't serve as Sodomites (biblical Sodom) towards this dying man. D=

Gary: Are you trying to say that this man's attempt to take part in communion was putting others at risk of contracting AIDS? I hope not.

I'm not trying to argue what's right and what's wrong according to the bible, I'm trying to show you that there was more to Sodom than homosexuality. There was rape, violence, lawlessness, and according to other scriptures, "a lack of charity."

What IS a choice is how you use the bible. I'll choose to use it for peace and not for hate. That's a choice I am making. It's a risk I am willing to take.

"Sexual immorality and perversion" mentioned in the NIV version of Jude, is taken from a Greek word that means "fornication." (I just looked that up in my Concordance.) The KJV used the word "fornication" in that verse. Wouldn't that include male and female relations and non-consensual sex? I shared with you how perverted Sodom was. Remember, an eyewitness gives an account in the Old Testament. The citizens Sodom were beating down Lot's door to get to his guests.

Here is the scripture in Genesis:

4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
5 and they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
7 and said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.
10 But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.
11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

So, why do we use the bible to condemn a certain community of people, while ignoring all the other offenses, including a "lack of charity," as mentioned in other scriptures?

The above scriptures were copied from http://www.bartleby.com/108/01/19.html

I understand no one will read this, but try, it's very short: JUDE 1:7

I'm the one that is a pervert? Really? Oh I forgot. Only White Christians are racists, perverter's and haters. And that's the only group that can be called that. Sorry about that. Thanks for reminding me how things are supposed to be today.
Carry on your ways but keep it out of the public view and the curricula of my family's schools.

Gary,

There are simply no words to express my feelings upon reading your story.

Kyle

I can't stop laughing at digital. He has quite the imagination.

Kyle

If the VicAd will permit me I will give give you my own experience with a homosexual. This will have nothing to do with Bible that grieves you so.

A homosexual was coming to my church, he demanded that we allow him to partake of communion with us. He had AIDS, we told him no but he insisted anyway. As the communion cup came his way he stood up & abruptly left with out partaking of the wine.

A month or so latter he died. He died because he chose to live a life of sodomy & then worse instead of humbling himself & seeking help that we were offering he chose to disregard & disrespect us & defy us.

This kind of mentality that this man manifested is not an isolated case, in fact there are now laws in place I believe to punish the gays who knowingly put others at risk.

Ezekiel 16:49, I think.

Rebecca

What scripture are you quoting?

Gary, I can't find anything on that either.

Great idea! Let's compare real events such as this parade with fictitious fairy (no pun intended) stories!

Now that makes perfect sense!

Gary and Woof - why do you insist on referring to archaic myth to justify your perverted views?

Rebecca

To the best of my knowledge Sodom did not have citizens straight or gay that ate people, lots of people

Gary, "Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy."

Rebecca

Its true we have a ways to go to get to the stage that Sodom & Gamorah was at, do you want to speed things up?

Sodom & Gamorah was not a Christian Nation nor was it ever one.

The expectations are greater for us & there for we wont have to get to exactly the same condition that Sodom & Gomorah was at in order for the Lord to tire of our refusal to consider what the
warning of Sodoms judgement was all about.

VicAd

Why is Jef Dahmers off limits here?

We have a way to go before we are like Sodom and Gomorrah. Do the males in Victoria wish to have their way with your out-of-town guests when those guests come to visit you? Have their way against the will of your guests? Threaten to beat down your door to get to your guests? How many dads in Victoria would offer up their virgin daughters to a mob of violent rapists?

There are places in the world RIGHT NOW where women are raped daily - as punishment or just because there is no one stopping it. Would people care if it was same-sex rape, like what was going on in Sodom?

My comment isn't that distubing when you compare it to what God did to the cities, Sodom and Gomorrah. Now thats disturbing.

Actually i have. The statute has not been repealed and state law still exists. The
Surpreme Court ruling should, in my opinion, not overrule States Rights accdording to the Constitution.

Hey look all, I've enjoyed the conversation. Kyle whether we agree or not I do enjoy your humor on this Vicad website. I'm just trying to make a point and I think I've done enough damage in that effort. That will be all from me on this one.

Anyway, ya'll have fun. Yes, that includes you GLBT folks.

Woof,

Get your facts straight(no pun intended): Gay sex Is NOT illegal in Texas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence...

Gay sex is illegal in Texas. Same sex marriage is illegal in Texas. Where are the police when we need them?

How in the world do so many folks have a "tight" vision when this subject comes up. Why is there a reason to have such a "they must be quiet" reaction? There was a time that because someone is different they must not be stopped from expression of who they are because it causes a rash? Time to act like your family has someone at Thanksgiving that is different.

LOL!!! If that's what works for you Kyle, I say go with it. You want it to be so, so you will find whatever you can to make it so in your mind.

scenario ( I'm using fun terms for you to mock later)
Lets say I'm a hippy and I like to smoke marijuana. When asked why do you smoke marijuana Mr. Hippy? Should I answer because I was born this way and I can't stop it??? Certainly I would expect a chuckle for a response.

Homosexuals are one of those very rare groups that answer this way and expect no one to say, "are you serious"???

What people look for an excuse for an activity so hard that they push a mysterious and completely unproven genetic occurance as a reason for their activity? Mr. Hippy smoked marijuana because he liked it. He wasn't born with anything wrong or different. Odds are good that he will answer "Because I like smoking it.
But then you have the group that wants and needs an excuse, instead of saying "Because we like to". Odd, eh!!!

Years of professional medical and scientific experience have gathered so much hard data and ended up with "Current evidence suggests" and "It appears".

Very strange these professional medical and scientific people. You would think they had put all questions to rest regarding this topic. Maybe they have and you just haven't found the right website yet.

Jason, Digital, and Hicktoria= owned

Hmmm,

jasonbourne's opnion compared with 3 opinions from outstanding American medical and scientific bodies who have performed decades of research carried out by professionals?

Tough choice.

It's OK Kyle, I understand. Many people that attempt to pass off junk like you posted earlier as fact would then try to discredit someone that called them on it instead of trying to continue the futile effort of supporting their junk.

jasonbourne will happily alert YOU when his "OPINION" is to be considered concrete factual information.

It's jasonbournes opinion that homosexual activity is wrong and it is a choice. jasonbourne has no so called factual evidence of when that choice was made. I hope that clarifies your worry's about my factual data (opinion) and your own.

jasonbourne also believes it is wrong to call a "come see me party" a "celebration of pride".

jasonbourne said: "Trying to compare a celebration of being proud of making a bad choice..."

Using your methodology, is the above statement your suggestion or a fact?

"Current evidence suggests"??? "It appears"???

Are these terms you folks use when presenting concrete, undisputed evidence of something.

I use terms like that when I'm trying to tell someone what a Hurricane is going to do a week in advance.

Nice try but that opinion although making you feel better does little in presenting facts.

Don't let facts stand in the way of his "hick" views :)

Usually, those who are the most outspoken are the ones hiding something....right Hicktoria? LOL

"There are no such things as gay babies. You are not born gay."

Cite your sources please.

The American Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association, and National Association of Social Workers stated in 2006:

“ Currently, there is no scientific consensus about the specific factors that cause an individual to become heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual—including possible biological, psychological, or social effects of the parents’ sexual orientation. However, the available evidence indicates that the vast majority of lesbian and gay adults were raised by heterosexual parents and the vast majority of children raised by lesbian and gay parents eventually grow up to be heterosexual.[2] ”

The Royal College of Psychiatrists stated in 2007:

“ Despite almost a century of psychoanalytic and psychological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person’s fundamental heterosexual or homosexual orientation. It would appear that sexual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of genetic factors and the early uterine environment. Sexual orientation is therefore not a choice.[66] ”

The American Academy of Pediatrics stated in Pediatrics in 2004:

“ Sexual orientation probably is not determined by any one factor but by a combination of genetic, hormonal, and environmental influences. In recent decades, biologically based theories have been favored by experts. Although there continues to be controversy and uncertainty as to the genesis of the variety of human sexual orientations, there is no scientific evidence that abnormal parenting, sexual abuse, or other adverse life events influence sexual orientation. Current knowledge suggests that sexual orientation is usually established during early childhood.[66][74][75]

Hmmm what about animals?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexu...

Come on Hick, don't live up to your namesake!

There are no such things as gay babies. You are not born gay. You choose to be gay. So go be gay and merry all ya want.

IJoe thanks for noticing, but I am straight.

myvu,

Heterosexuals will keep having gay babies :)

Hicktoria always says he doesn't care but he's always in the gay topics. lol

"While they are at Coleto, give them each a rock and tell them to go for a swim."

Enlightened

Just by making a comment you also make a statement. You care enough to express yourself in a comment.

Hick, I do that too.

Kyle - only if they were gay...

Rebecca - I honestly do not care. Just making comment.

Hick, you obviously care. There's a difference between indifference and hate. If you were indifferent, you wouldn't be here.

"Gays remind me of little kids trying to get Mommy or Daddy's attention when they are talking to someone else."

Do you also you feel that way about blacks, Muslims and women?

They say, "We are here and we are queer."

I say, "You are there and I do not care!"

Its like this, gays will get their rights. I believe that will eventually happen. But, the one thing they will never get from me is acceptance or respect. So, you keep marching and I will keep ignoring...

Gays remind me of little kids trying to get Mommy or Daddy's attention when they are talking to someone else.

No one is playing the victim. I'm just giving the facts. Gay bars were raided for the simple fact that they were gay bars, and patrons were charged as sex offenders just for being there.

Straight/Gay bars get raided for allowing children in and having sex with them? What kinda bars are you going to? really? LOL

You're grasping at straws by saying these bars were raided b/c they allow children in and sex in bathrooms when you know that's far from the truth. You're pathetic.

How does it feel to be fighting a losing battle? LMAO

Think of me as a missionary babeeee! Winning hearts and minds one brain cell and artery at a time.

Gary et. al.

If you want a society that will buck the trend and slide backwards into inequality for those who are attracted to those ofnthe same sex I highly recommend you convert to Islam and move to a theocratic country in the Middle East.

I don't think it matters which god you worship as long as it justifies and condones your own fears and insecurities about the world!

Writein

I apreciate your refusal to allow the homosexuals to hitch a ride on the backs of the black Americans who had legitamate causes which the Lord was in full agreement with.

IJoe.

Do I have “anger issues”? I admit it. YES, I have anger issues and………………..!!!! What is your point? I do have anger issues, but at least I am honest. Which I can’t say about your honestly. Threatening and demanding respect is two different things. With your lying and putting words in my mouth, you don’t deserve my respect.

Joe

Tell me why you don't like GLBT issues without using the Bible. I know most of the hate towards the GLBT is due to some old book written by MEN

Homosexuals men have a higher rate of pedophiles & child porn. Or is that to old fashion of a thought for the advanced mentality.

Jason,

Your argument is weak based on the fact that you think gays "choose" this lifestyle and that gays will recruit those that are weak and want to be rebellious. Do you realize how you sound? LOL

You keep calling it "special" treatment. I don't think I've ever heard gays ask for "special" treatment. They are asking for EQUAL treatment. Don't get it twisted. People like you always wanna throw out the "special" treatment word when there is nothing "special" about wanting to be treated equally. I guess Rosa Parks was asking for "special" treatment when she wanted to sit in the front of the bus right? I love Rosa Parks! She didn't sit back and do nothing like your grandparents probably told her she should do. She fought back! And that is exactly what the GLBT community is doing, and you don't like it. The causes are different, but its all for EQUAL rights and treatment no matter how you wanna twist it. There is nothing special about that.

Tell me why you don't like GLBT issues without using the Bible. I know most of the hate towards the GLBT is due to some old book written by MEN.

writein, you have anger issues....threatening over the internet? Really? BAHAHAHA

Kyle

In a few generations time the backwards ways of thinking will be a footnote in the sociology books and those precious few still around that adhere to the narrow-minded ways of old will be still waitiing and waiting for a purging rapture that wil never arrive.

Sounds like a prophecy, now I will prophecy as well; in a little while the wicked will be ashes under the feet of the righteous & there will be peace for a thousand years.

Writein:

I should not have included you in that list. I am sorry.

My point is if people are so upset at the very mention of a subject they have a problem with and then attack the very mention in a local newspaper then maybe they should try to have a better understanding of others point of view.

Is is sad when some of the posters feel the very mention so a subject is "craming down thier throat" then maybe they have a very unrealistic outlook on life.

I will remember to use a much smaller paintbrush from now on.

iJoe,
Do you notice how you change your posts in order to try and make a point that you can't seem to make.

I don't care if two guys or two girls walk down the sidewalk holding hands...As long as they don't stand on the sidewalk and yell to passersby that they are special and deserving of special treatment. They aren't special and they don't deserve special treatment.

Do smokers need to have a pride celebration because they choose to smoke. In my opinion, NO!

You try and twist everything said here to fit whatever point it is you are tryng to make. You want to make some of us haters, but you can't even seem to do that properly. Stop trying to read all kinds of things into my posts and stnad for something, anything.

GLBT wants to be noticed so they do it with a "Pride Celebration and say it is "Family fun for everyone". I know a lot of families and none will be attending this great celebration. Why? Because they know it is abnormal behavior and they will not subject their children to it. Me, I won't go because I don't think it is anything worth celebrating. You want to put on a show for whoever will watch and call it a Pride celebration.

Go have your fun, ignore the people like me that make sense and try calling a spade a spade. It's a "Hey look at me party", not a Pride Celebration.

And for God sakes please stop changing your story to try and make a point. If you are going to make up make believe facts at least try to get them close to factual.

I stand by my earlier statement that youthful ignorance will eventually give way to mature decision making. Your GLBT will lose members as they realize that what they are doing is wrong. They will also gain young folks that aren't sharp enough to understand and need to be rebelious. It's the way of the world. Watch, you'll see I'm right.

IJoe.

Nice try in changing the subject and by the way. Nice try in playing the race card, now who is the racist? You cannot make one topic into another especially when being black is way different than being homosexual. Where in my statement I say gays shouldn’t, I repeat SHOULDN’T, have an event? Where in my statement, I stated that gays should be hated? Where in my past statement, I said I hate gays? Where in my statement did I say gays shouldn’t do this and that?

IJoe maybe, just maybe, you should read my statement again. Maybe, just maybe you should understand where I am coming from. Maybe, just maybe, you would know I am talking about one’s dressing and appearance and not his/her sexual preferences.

Now it is you who have the egg on your face. If you want talk to me, then do it with respect and at least be honest. DO NOT CROSS ME, disrespect me, and put words in my mouth. Now do we understand one other? Because I do not put up with bull Cr@P !!!!!!

Vet43.

I would suggest you stop because you are digging a hole with the comment with me. I do not have to go to GLBT event because I already went to one several years ago. Plus I use to live in the most LIBERAL places in Texas, so much to my fear and my hate. So let’s not go there, vet43. It seems you are trying to put me in a box with the local hicks.
I believe that right is right and wrong is wrong. I believe that you cannot make wrong into a right and a right into a wrong.

Joe

Gay rights will come. Gay rights are allready here, Maybe you wont be happy untill people are forced to worship you.

We will always condem you & it will always bother you because you know what we are saying is the truth.

I guess being at a gay bar having a drink equals sodomy huh?

I'm not too worried. Gay rights will come. It has to play out like everything else in history has. One day no one will ever care what sexuality someone is. People won't blink an eye if they see 2 men walking down the street holding hands just like no one cares about interracial couples anymore. Well, you might still look down at that.

You're still not important.

Digital,
No one is asking for your sympathy. Get over yourself, you're not that important.

In the 60s, there were laws against homosexuality and the police may have only been doing their job but your post proves my point even more. THERE WERE DISCRIMINATING LAWS ON THE BOOKS! I guess gays should have sat back and done nothing about it right? There were laws against blacks too. They should have sat back and done nothing as well.

Thanks for proving my point even further!

Joe

What gays do aren't affecting you. How are letting 2 gay people marry affecting you?

The ansere to this has been thoroughly discussed on the other sites,

Please read them or I can take the time to reprint them for you.

Thanks GW

Kyle

Your comments are a stark reminder of what willful ignorance, fear, control mixed with a dadh of religion can do to a person.

If a dadh of religion makes me to understand that a man dressing as a female prostitute is a disgrace then maybe you could use a little Religion your self.

Jason, there are different forms of discrimination. All discrimination isn't the same. Women weren't discriminated in the same manner as blacks, and gays aren't discriminated in the same manner as women or blacks. But it's all discrimination.

You need to learn a little history before you go off on stuff you don't know about. Do you know what started the gay rights movement? Police raids on gay bars were common in the 60s, and this started the Stonewall riots in NYC when gays finally got tired of being terrorized by the police force and fought back. Gays and Lesbians could be charged as sex offenders just for being at a gay bar, and most would lose their jobs, careers, etc because of it. But, according to you, gays should have just stayed home and kept everything private, and not shove it in anyone's face. Like I said, Rosa Parks should have just moved to the back of the bus when she was told. If you can't see the similarities in that then I don't know what else to really say to you. You are just blind. If gays hadn't fought back there would still be police raids at gay bars! I guess you approve of the police harassing gays?

I really don't see why you're so angry that the VA advertised an event. They're not telling you to go. You keep saying we're shoving it in your face, but no one is making you attend the event. The event is advertised for people who may want to attend. How is that shoving it in your face? I guess the VA should only advertise events you agree with huh? No Cinco de Mayo event celebrations should be advertised because that's anti American right?

You show what type of person you are based on what you write on here. You state that "50 years from now people will be more tolerant of ODD behaviors." I guess you expect everyone to be the same as you? Well guess what? We're all different and ODD, so suck it up and get over it. What gays do aren't affecting you. How are letting 2 gay people marry affecting you? How is letting a gay man serve in the military for YOUR rights affecting you?

There are so many tightened sphincters commenting it's most amusing.

In a few generations time the backwards ways of thinking will be a footnote in the sociology books and those precious few still around that adhere to the narrow-minded ways of old will be still waitiing and waiting for a purging rapture that wil never arrive.

Welcome to the future.

Prior to the 1980's me and about 90% of adults in this country knew that homosexuals, gays, lesbian, bi-sexuals, and transgender folks existed among us. In the 80's the dreaded AIDS epidemic became common knowledge, Rock came out and soon died, many more died and many more started coming out as people felt compassion for those infected with AIDS and the homosexual agenda gained strength and support. In the 90's the government put pressure on corporations to preach and enforce diversity, which is fine. But I remember how upset most straight folks, and most racial minorities were when the gays were included with this minority status. By this time most all were out of the closet and openly displaying their lifestyle. Well, fine.

Finally, my point is that live your personal life as you see fit, but please don't try to tell me are other Christians that everything our faith has told us is wrong, and that this type of sexual behavior is blest by the very God that has for centuries condemned it as an abomination. As Christians we cannot or should not do that. Love you, yes. Be friends with you, yes. Work with you and go to church with you, yes. Accept the lifestyle, No.

iJoe, like most here you are wrong.

Can GLBT people vote? Can they get food in any restaurant they want? Can they attend school anywhere they want?
Yes you were wrong and you cannot answer anything but Yes to those questions.

These people made a choice to do something different from the main stream. They understood that they were in the extreme minority of the earths people when they made that choice. I don't treat them better or worse than anyone else.

As far as my family goes, well you're wrong again. We aren't like you. We also don't think recognizing someone for choosing a sexual lifestyle is the right thing to do. You want to be recognized then do something to earn it.

Very sad stuff you trying to compare the choice made by the GLBT's to that of the Civil rights hell the blacks went through in the south.

50 years from now the people will have slowly become more tolerant of odd behavior. It's a fact of life. I'll be long gone and the only ones foolish will be those expecting recognition for deciding to be different.

This whole thing has totally gone over Jason's head. lol

Gay Pride events are held as part of the battle for equality. People like Jason expect gays and lesbians to sit back and continue to be second class citizens and not say anything. Jason, I bet your parents and grandparents said the same thing when blacks were fighting for their rights. I bet your parents thought Rosa Parks should have just shut up and take her seat in the back of the bus right?

I can't believe the amount of hate I read on the VA website from people. You could transfer all that hate towards doing something good for your community.

Now I'll wait for writein aka BigJ to try and not compare it the African American Civil Rights movement. I find it funny when a black person discriminates against gays. lol. Discrimination comes in all forms. They should be the first to know what it feels like to be discriminated against.

50 years from now most of you will look like fools.

Thats a novel idea vet but there are many things I've never done, don't like and do not participate in or support because I made a choice not to. Fear has nothing to do with any of it.
Skydiving, knitting, owning a cat, deer hunting with a rifle and feeder, skateboarding, facebooking, frisbee golf, ...That list is pretty long and you really don't want to read all that.

If others choose to and want to do it without making others think they are somethng special then I say get after it. My entire point isn't that they are bad people, it's that they want to be recognized for something that is deserving of no recognition.

This isn't a lot of energy.

Jason, Gary, Woof,Writein:

Your total fear of anyone different than you and amount of energy you spend to prove your point could be better used to attend an event you disagree with and meet the fellow humans you dislike so much.

The gays are coming woofwoof! Is nobody safe? Head for the hills!

Fear of those different to yourself and the resulting ignorance in word or deed displayed demonstrates to me nothing but abject cowardice.

Grow some damn balls

This is step one. Step two will be teaching your little school children about Gay Pride and placing Gay action in their little school books.

I don't hate anyone, especially the GLBT people. You made a choice to be different and you should be happy with it. Why do you feel the need to tell everyone how proud you are? Proud of what? You haven't invented the micro-chip or discovered oil. You made a choice and for some reason you think it is significant. Well it's not.

In my entire life not one single person has ever asked me about my sexual preferences. I don't make a habit of asking anyone theirs. I have never felt the need to "SHOW" or "PUT ON DISPLAY" for everyone the choices I make in life as if they were some great achievement.

Eventually a large percentage of your group will outgrow their "CHOICE". They will mature and go back to what is considered a proper way of life. They will marry someone of the opposite sex as nature intended. They will have children and raise them successfully. They will try to forget the ignorance of youth. They will recognize that that portion of their early life provided little in the way of benefit to the cultural growth of the city they lived in.
I don't expect any of them to have a celebration telling me about that "CHOICE" either

I don't hate these people, I hate them thinking that it is a significant event or some great achievement.

I would like men to wear kilts. Is that drag? ;)

Kyle.

PLEASE use some common sense. HOW IS IT FAMILY FUN for having people dress in drag????

"What a joke, you want to be recognised as humans then act like them."

Gary, you are in no position to demand this until you yourself can step up and do the same.

Your comments are a stark reminder of what willful ignorance, fear, control mixed with a dadh of religion can do to a person.

Shameful

I support the Veterans Day Parade and Memorial Day. Why would anyone equate the event being discussed to these celebrations of American sacrifice? Except that there have been Americans die in combat that were gay but they died for our nation.

afternoon will include an amateur drag queen and king show

"It's family fun for everyone."

What a joke, you want to be recognised as humans then act like them.

I just heard on the news of tomorows gay pride parade in Van Couver Brittish Columbia.

They are warning that some of the floats will be vulgar. What a disgrace these people are. The whole parade will be vulgar. These gays love to be offensive with there in your face vulgarity.

They are angry at God & His people for not submiting to there agenda of filth & perversion.

We have these events world wide so that people do not feel scared to come out and feel discriminated against. All community groups are allowed to have all types of celebrations. People like Jason are why we have these events to end hate. We invite people like Jason out to show not just we are proud but we are all human beings. WE ALL DESERVE TO BE TREATED EQUALLY! This agenda isn't a conspiracy like other agenda or rights groups before us who now have equal rights. This is just our time to show we want to be treated equally. We (GLBT community) are everywhere. The Victoria Gay community is very large. Although we may not be a majority in this community, in this nation, or this world we should not be treated as second class citizens. We want to thank Jason for his views and point out why this is so important. You are entitled to your rights to express how you feel. Just like we have the right to express ours. Thank you again.

Jason, so you did not purposefully use those words for dramatic or comedic effect? I'm sorry. Was it a Freudian slip? A laspus linguae?

You can make it sound however you want it to sound. How many times in a Bake Sale, or carwash have they interviewed the Bakers or Car Washers? No it's not the same.

The fact that these folks have to announce something like this in an article (not an announcement) tells me all I need to know about them. "We want to show the community that we are here, and we are proud of who we are," said Hernandez. "We're all about diversity and equality."

I will say this, the Veterans (Memorial Day) Parade is about the only parade I really support. They are saying, we fought for this country and what we do and have done is worthy of recognition. I agree with them.

I'm not going to discuss it further with you Rebecca. You seem to start weebling and wobbling every time you are proven wrong and I find that hilarious.

They (the GLBT) want attention and this is how they get it. I hope they are enormously successful in their effort to gather a crowd to celebrate how proud they are. Trying to compare a celebration of being proud of making a bad choice to what our Veterans are doing and have done is just wrong.

It seems that almost any event will fire-up someone to rant about how that event is an insult to thier core belief system.

"My God, they are wearing flip-flops! Heathens! Doers of evil! They are trying to make us all wear flip-flops!"

Maybe God just want's some folks to wear flip-flops? It is ok as long as the Victoria Advocate runs an article on flip-flops?

Jason, Skeptical had a point, though you read much more into it. He asked if you feel that EVERY announcement - from ANY group - is an attempt to cram something down your throat? The comparison was with GROUPS - the fact that GROUPS make announcements all the time. Why do you feel that THIS community is trying to "cram it" by announcing an event? I find that hilarious, considering your stance. =D

I don't mind if events that are open to the public are announced in our local paper.

Or the large ones...

"benefit to the cultural growth of Victoria" ???

Your imagination is working overtime today, eh?

Don't forget the little snarky opportunists also!

Or the neo-intellectual anti-God crew to jump into the lake with them.

Amusing! It doesn't take long for the self-righteous god squad to leap on board the hate train does it?

Diversity as detailed in the the above article will prove (in time) to be such a benefit to the cultural growth of Victoria than many mouth breathers on here realize.

Keep it up!

Woofwoof..."An abomination" -- you mean like eating shellfish?

Skeptical,
Please please don't compare these folks to Blacks or Veterans. If I have to tell you why then you will never get it.

Go ahead and have your celebration to show everyone how "proud" you are. It won't be bothering me. You just make yourselves look silly when you say it and have to have a newspaper article stating you need to "celebrate your pride".

You want everyone to see you, that's all. It has nothing to do with pride or being proud.

I don't see all the hate. This is just announcing an event. This is no different than a church bake sale, school car wash, or any other fundraising event.

@jasonbourne Do you feel the same way about Black History parades? or Veteran events? Should they stop trying to force it down our throats as well?

An abomination.

Well, at least it was not printed in the Sunday edition on the front page. I am getting really tired of this 'agenda' that the paper is promoting to put this type lifestyle out in the public eye.

I agree if they wish to have this lifestyle that is up to them. I don't have to approve of it, nor will I condone it.

Why is it that the Victoria Advocate is pushing it so heavily?

OK, we believe you are proud of yourself. Do you have to have a celebration to make sure you prove it to us? No!!!

You have a celebration so you can make sure everyone see's you. Well we know you are out there even without the celebration. If it makes you feel better to celbrate at least tell everyone the true reasons.

I'm hetero, no celebration needed here. I'm proud of it and don't need a newspaper article, interview, or celebration to show it.

How about you live your life privately like the rest of us and stop trying to force it down our throats so you can say you are "proud".

You make yourselves look silly.