i hope they do vicad
Robert,We have encouraged the men charged to tell us their side of the story and will be following the case in court.
is vicad going to dig deeper on this story, because something about this sure doesn't make any sense ?
Gee...impersonating a SECURITY OFFICER instead of impersonating a police officer. Wow! I'm trying to decide if this is worse than impersonating a cop or not. I find it hard to believe there is actually a LAW against impersonating a security "officer" and even more unbelievable that THREE different real police agencies supplied people to raid a honky-tonk because the bouncers were wearing tee shirts that said Security on them. It musta been a REAL slow night for law enforcement. They coulda been out searching pickup trucks on US 59. Maybe they could have stopped somebody for suspicion of following too closely.
Thanks for the small correction in the paper today.
CorrectionOriginally published June 21, 2011 at 6:03 p.m., updated June 21, 2011 at 6:03 p.m.
Three men arrested in a raid on Cowgirls Night Club were charged with impersonation of a security officer. The charge was wrong in a story on Page A1 on Tuesday.
I dont know why everyone is bad mouthing Cowgirls. Cactus is still open when they have had people shooting at eachother in the parking lot, Stabbings and fights going on. Some one gets murdered at the raunchy bars on pt lavaca hwy. why are all these clubs still open? It all has to do with who you know. when the people who run cactus are buddy buddy with TABC then you can practically do what you want! When something new comes in and takes the business away from a corporation, everyone is out for you.
lmao...I remember when a raid at the Cowgirl would have netted far more than class A misdemeanors.....but I digress....what a waste of time & money.
You have more faith in the DA than I have. Of course, even if Tyler drops the charges, a lot of damage has already been done. The names of these people have been dragged through the mud and they have been publically accused of a crime. Class A misdeameanors are punsihable by fines up to $4,000 and/or jail time up to a year. This is no trivial matter and will also include considerable costs for attorney's fees. I hope the jackasses who thought up this operation as well as the ones who carried out the arrests are happy. They made sure nobody would impersonate a cop again. After this shameful episode, who would WANT to be thought of as a cop?
From the story: "The men were charged with impersonation of a police officer, which is a Class A misdemeanor."
This error needs to be corrected. The men were charged with impersonating security officers, not police officers. On another note, impersonating a police officer in the state of Texas is a Class B misdemeanor (just looked it up), and impersonating a Security Officer is a Class A misdemeanor! How does that make sense?? Also, I would like to know who "Brooks" is that "admitted to officers that he was just getting ready to begin his shift at the club as a security officer". Brooks isn't one of the names listed as those being arrested. Should that have been Sparks instead of Brooks? Just goes to show how well this story was written and edited. I am baffled by the entire incident personally. It seems as though these guys were just trying to do a job and because their shirts had the word "security" on the back, they got arrested? What happened to giving a ticket or a warning for first time offenders? Even DUI offenders get a ticket on their first offense.
Is it just me, isn't this a little dramatic? Wouldn't it of been a whole lot easier if the DA would of simply just called the club and asked the owner to not use the Security Shirts and give them insight of the law that was being infracted. I see security guards at the plant who are also Security guards. They answer the phone as security. They even wear a badge. They have had no training in law enforcement. I really believe htis was handled incorrectly.
Such a crock. This law, and this enforcement of such, is a shakedown. The intention is to force business owners to hire from the cop brotherhood for part time, overpriced security help.
Hey DPS. If you want to do something useful, how about auto insurance checkpoints. Line up the wreckers, and get these liabilities off the road and send their drivers hoofing it. No? Easier to issue a citation and let them drive away. Of course, this will lead to a "failure to apear" warrant, which won't be enforced either.
I think Steve Tyler will do what's right here.
The Advocate wrote: "...led to the arrest of three men on the charge of impersonating a police officer."
Whether this HUGE blunder is due to bogus info from law enforcement or just an assumption by the Advocate, this should have been corrected HOURS ago. After all, verifying facts isn't that time-consuming of a task.
And this situation never, ever warranted anything more than a blotter mention in the first place...
From the story: "The men were charged with impersonation of a police officer, which is a Class A misdemeanor."
What a crock!! Nobody was impersonating a cop. Not even a slobbering, falling down drunk would ever have confused these guys with cops. They were wearing black tee shirts with Security printed on them. That certainly doesn't look like a police uniform. So he said he was a security officer -- so what? He didn't say he was a police officer. We've got people at the bank where I work who call themselves officers. They're bank officers, but I guess they better be careful to whom they so identify themselves. Most compaies have executives who are described as officers of the company and they are entitled to make decisions for the company, but nobody mistakes those corporate officers for cops. When somebody calls the real cops and complains that a club has employees wearing clothes that don't look like police uniforms and who don't call themselves police officers, the real cops should tell the "citizen" to take a pill.
November three two two five Juliet...The fire department wears guns???
The Fire MARSHALL is a certified peace officer and HE can wear a gun and arrest people just like a cop. The fire department? I don't think so. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Impersonating a stripper-pretty funny.....I agree, 1 officer just needed 2 talk 2 the owner & all this waste of $ & time wouldn't have been necessary. I would think the club would comply so as not 2 lose their liquor license.
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Maybe DPS troopers can conducted surveillance at cCub Maximus.I just saw a really obese gal impersonating a stripper, now that's a real crime.
Let's see: 3 branches of law enforcement conduct a raid to issue 3 Class A misdemeanor citations.
One officer could have walked in and taken care of the situation -- and should have simply warned the employees that the wording on the shirts put them in violation of the law.
This incredible waste of manpower and tax dollars is just another sad chapter in the saga of Victoria.
Of course, this IS Victoria, so does anyone honestly expect anything different???
But hey, maybe all 3 departments coordinated and at least wore their boots for this noteworthy occasion...
Why couldn't the local authorities just go up to the bar and mention that the shirts are not compliant with an obscure law?The notion that this needs to be dramatized is BS! Here is a small businessman trying to make some money and he does not get free tax abatement, like Catapilar and he gets slapped about for providing jobs to these three men.I cant wait until Catapilar overlooks an ordinace and see what happens to the golden boys of manufacturing that are saving the crossraods from destitution!
How about "Big, bad bouncer that will hurt you if you cause trouble in this place" tee shirt.
Should I have been more specific? I didn't say they can keep order of the people that leave and drive after they have had too much to drink. Inside, I feel safe. What happens OUTSIDE of Cowgirls isn't what I was referring to.
"Cowgirls is very good at keeping order" FunnyOnly if they could keep their drunks from driving east and west on 59.
Cowgirls is the least trashiest club in town. I used to go to Cactus until Roberto's shut down. Then all the drama started over there with different cultures combining. Every club has its problems but Cowgirls is very good at keeping order. They do not tolerate fighting. Honestly though, would you run up to a guy with a shirt that said "staff" or "security" Im running up to the security guy if I have a problem.
why cant DPS conduct survelance on all the burglaries around town and get some of these guys behind bars and quite trying to feed there family off of small fish!!!
all they are at he club are bouncers and thats what they need to be known as, not security because they arent good at anything except for causing all the trouble and fights that do go on over there. If they had bouncers on their shirts or just wore cowgirls shirts it wouldnt have happened.
famman you are exactly right.....its all about semantics.....you see kids wearing security shirts everywhere.....
pilot "So to be an official rent-a-cop, you have to be a real cop", No but you do have to carry a liscence(sic) with the state which comes with a background check. A more apt term for these guys with a said credentials are bouncers.
This "raid" rates up there with the quarter pushing stake out and the 5 liner busts. I bet during the raid at least 20 cars loaded down with dope made its way to Houston...Awesome job on the bust!
A mispelled t-shirt sends three men to jail for impersonating an officer. If the shirt said Club Security the raid would not have happened. It is the word "Officer" that got them into trouble. One is trained to handle the situation and the other is not trained. That is the difference. One is legal and the other is not. change the spelling on the shirts and continue on with the business of being a bar. Although one of the worst bars in town. Cowgirl! clean up your act or you will be out of business in a year.
Perhaps I don't understand the difference. It appears that a college vehicle drives around with Police on the Vehicle. The fire department wears a gun. I guess they need all that police protection that the robo cops can't provide. What ever happened to the raid on the Cafe in the mall? Perhaps the police will be using underaged kids to trap business owners again soon. Lets go on patrol and stop little old ladies with no front licence plates. For entertainment, we could rob a bank. Not much chance of getting caught.
I'm glad the roundup happened because the security people there are horrible to say the least. I'd like to see Cowgirls be put out of business. This is KARMA baby!!! Oh yeah!!!
November 2010......June 20...It took 7 months to ask for credentialsYep...the general public" = local security firmTexas Department of Public Safety, Officers from the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission and Victoria Police Department assisted with the raid.How difficult...walk up to individual, ask..."R U licensed to provide this service"?Obviously more to this R I'm really missing the point.
so dps, tabc and vpd were all needed to 'raid' 3 kids in security tshirts ?
This is what happens when you have "PPM" (Piss Poor Management)
Actually, they were eating at a Mexican Food joint with those shirts. Grazing at the DPS's waterhole is serious bidness.
It's about time something was done. Those guys out there always act like they are somebody.
The correct story heading should read.."Men arrested for impersonating SECURITY officers" not police officers, there is a difference.
I have lived in Victoria for over 40 years and never been to the Cowgirl club. I believe security shirts should be issued at the door and required wearing while inside.
Wanna bet "the general public" is a local security firm.