I'll admit to not being the brightest bulb on the block, but it seems to me if we were able to conduct a Nuclear War for only $100K, I think we did pretty good.
Things that make you say, WTF?
what a total waste of money
We have to wait and see what the new Chancellor at A&M, John Sharp, says. He's gone on record as being in favor of a switch, so along with the new President of UHV being in favor of a switch, we're clearly not done.
Regardless, you can probably consider that 100 grand gone.
Are we, the public, finished being educated about TAMU switch so the 100K can be returned to the general fund?
Writein, that is what I thought, but it seems they took that proverbial wrong turn in Albuquerque.
It seems the illustrious mayor believes all of VISDs issues are magically gone since the opening of the new prettyfied schools....throw enough money at it & poof, all problems disappear. So now the commission can move on to bigger & better things. ; )
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Wasn't the Crossroads Commission on Education's purpose to address the HIGH DROP OUT RATE AT VISD????
so who's cashing the 100k check ?
did anyone ask this ?
It was a wise move that City Attorney convinced Mayor Armstrong to make everything "up and up". A little late, although. After one month of secrecy the damage to confidence in the Council has been done once again. As Mayor Armstrong said, it is time to declare "nuclear war" on this yet another breach of the public trust. This is one more in a long list of "deals": fancy sidewalks in tough economic times, secret parking lot deals, special attorneys for high officials...
Here are the members of the Texas House of Representatives Higher Education Committee. Let them understand your position on this "nuclear war"!
Texas House of Representative Higher Education CommitteeP.O. Box 2910Austin , Texas 78768-2910(512)463-0787 x2.106
Chairman Dan BranchRep. Joaquin CastroRep. Roberto R. AlonzoRep. Dennis BonnenRep. Fred BrownRep. Donna HowardRep. Eric JohnsonRep. Tryon D. LewisRep. Diane Patrick
HB 2556 moves on.
It's going to the Texas House of Representatives Higher Education Committee.
Whos members are: State Representatives Chairman Dan Branch, Vice Chairman Joaquin Castro, and members Roberto Alonzo, Dennis Bonner, Fred Brown, Donna Howard, Eric Johnson, Tyron Lewis and Diane Patrick.
Give these state reps a call. The committee clerk is Dustin Meador at 512-463-0782.
There is now officially $100,000 working against Victorians that are opposed to kicking UofH out of Victoria.
Give these state reps a phone call and express your feelings. City government, VEDC, and the sales tax corp. board are hoping people don't care or that local citizens will not express their opposition to this bill.
And VEDC is preparing to spend $100,000 of sales tax dollars to ensure the opposition is muted in Austin or to better educate Victorians.
Even though these sales tax dollars ($100,000), according to the voters of Victoria, were to be used expressly for infrastructure improvements in Victoria only. When was this mandate, by the voters, changed?
this is bullcrap!!! how about you buy a 1dollar highlighter , print out the doggone bill and highlight keypoints, you are probably the same people that cry about our federal governments wasteful spending and then turn around and try to justify your own wasteful spending of other peoples money.
To educate me on: "The community needs to be educated and informed about what Rep. Morrison's bill includes and what it doesn't include"What part of this plays on:"Economic development is the increase in the standard of living in a nation's population with sustained growth from a simple, low-income economy to a modern, high-income economy. Also, if the local quality of life could be improved, economic development would be enhanced. Its scope includes the process and policies by which a nation improves the economic, political, and social well-being of its people".
Lie after lie after lie. If the powers that be choose to lie about this what else are they telling untruths about? This is really bad business folks. Isn't the Advocate the responsible party for "informing" the public of the issues at hand. Please don't spend my tax dollars "educating" me about the switch. Believe it or not there are plenty of responsible tax payers in this community that do not care one bit about this issue, so how do you justify spending 100K of those tax payers dollars? This is ridiculous, back door, small town politics at its ugliest! The council and all the city leaders involved in this nonsense should be ashamed!
Wait, how is replacing UH-V with TAMU-V economic development? Because I think the LAW requires spending economic development tax proceeds on ACTUAL economic development. Economic development creates jobs that export goods from our community to the rest of the world. The term is defined right in the Economic Development Act, plain as day for our dimwitted City Attorney to read.
Education is not economic development! Marketing not related to bringing BUSINESSES to Victoria is not economic development! Lobbying the legislature is certainly not economic development!
If this is what they're doing, the money should have come out of the General Budget, and it should have been approved in an open meeting, period. I don't care if they cured cancer, you still can't have an ILLEGAL meeting to hide the fact that you're using special tax dollars ILLEGALLY.
I'm sure the Legislature is going to love to be associated with this mess after someone slaps the City with an injunction suit for violating the Texas Constitution through this misappropriation of funds. What a great way to get our City's names in the Austin American Statesman, the Dallas Morning News, and the Houston Chronicle for all of our state reps and senators to read. At least those papers will cover the STORY instead of playing rah-rah cheerleader for the mayor and the small group of more-money-than-brains punks who run this town.
I you folks would just pay attention to the map, you would see this is all taking place off the coast of Africa. Now do you see why it will cost so must to do this? It's all about the traveling back and forth..
Ok, now the $100k hasn't been spent YET.....
"But will soon be formulating a plan to educate the public and legislature on the bill proposing a change from University of Houston-Victoria to Texas A&M University.
The plan will include consultants and could include firms that use lobbyists, which is legal according to the city attorney."
The money has been transferred, WE HAVE TO SPEND IT!
"the consultants could be a mix of local and out-of-town experts. "
Ok, first, who are the local expert consultants on higher education? Never mind, the Crossroads Commission on Education.
Secondly, why is it that every time a road is to rebuilt, medians are to be installed, a parking garage is to be built, a sewer system needs repair or a new sewer plant needs to be built, or a controversial legal opinion on a project needs clarification, the COV always hires a outside engineering or environmental firm, or defers legal matters to the law firm of the former interim COV lawyer?
There seams to be a lack of faith by the COV for the in house engineering and attorneys office.
In this case, "outside consultants" are mentioned, will they recommend that the COV also conduct a outside firm review of the impact of the UHV switch at $X amount?
Will $100K be enough?
I feel very mislead. Weren't we told this money was being used to bring a new business to town but now it is to educate the public. I don't see that as the same. What will they do if A&M comes in and says that it is not the right time to expand the campus?Spend another $100,000 to educate us why it is ok for them to flush money down the tiolet?I would feel more secure if all their little endeavors didn't seem to line some friends' pockets.
What an unbelievable waste of money!!
I will be quite curious if City Council will be throwing money to the proposal for a curbside recycling and household hazardous waste pickup program @ the March 22 City Council Meeting. Something that is VERY long over due for a City the size of Victoria!
this cover story suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure sound fishy
how much deeper are you going to dig VICAD ?
That's great Lamppost, except for the fact that Dale Fowler explicitly says...
"The COMMUNITY needs to be educated and informed about what Rep. Morrison's bill includes and what it doesn't include"
He doesn't say anything about educating the general public outside of Victoria. Again, it doesn't cost $100K to do that either way.
I'm not against A&M moving in here, and I'm sure there are lots of folks that support it. The problem I have is that a very small number of people took it upon themselves to go this route because they didn't agree with UH. Well that's wonderful, but what happens if they don't agree with how A&M runs things? What happens if these people eventually whine so much that no system will want to pay any attention to UHV?
1. Does it cost $100K to educate people on a bill they are supposedly in such support of? I understand that it is possible that maybe only half of that would be spent. For $50 you could get some kid to post information about the bill on the VEDC website if you want to 'educate the public'. For that matter I think the VicAd has been doing a pretty good job keeping up with this bill.
2. Who says it is the community's desire? I don't recall anyone doing a poll, survey, going door-to-door, etc. to get the community's input on the matter.
1. Who appointed these people to speak for everyone? I don't remember any kind of vote on what I wanted. 2. The only argument I've heard against UHV is that they won't built a new campus. This group didn't get what they wanted right now, so they decided to take their ball and go play on another field. 3. Sound like a PR campaign to promote the change; nothing 'educational' about it.Under the UH umbrella, UHV has constructed facilities, had phenomenal growth, added sports programs and completed a very successful downward expansion. How is this unsupportive? A&M is a great school, but this is an expensive (regardless of what Ms. Morrisson claims) and unnecessary change.
"There is room for all of God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes."
What a WASTE of time and MONEY!!!
On another note...Armstrong's comments don't seems to reflect what the Advocate says this money will be spent on based on his statement:
"At one time it was thought that we could negotiate something, but now it's a nuclear war"
What does that have to do with a public information campaign? It seems to me that UH has hired a lobbyist to try and keep UHV, and we (I use 'we' loosely, because clearly most citizens had no input in this matter) have hired one in an effort to move from UH.
So which is it? Are we using the money to educate the public, or are we hiring someone to fight against UH?
I thought the boot campaign was the biggest waste of taspayer dollars that Victoria will ever see.
I stand corrected.
THIS debacle takes the cake and brings to light the narrow-mindedness of numerous decision-makers and their ego-driven cheering sections.
What happened to possessing -- and utilizing -- common sense???
I have enough about the State rep.
Well as a UHV grad I really don't care if A&M wants to come here although seems like they should fund this project. Bad decision VEDC and poor $$$$ management City Council
"The group will work with consultants to do the campaign **which could include hiring lobbyists to work out legislative initiatives**. Fowler said the consultants could be a mix of local and out-of-town experts."
Wow, I guess there's some truth to every rumor:www.victoriaadvocate.com/weblogs/para...
"This is going to be controversial," Armstrong said.
Is the bill so complicated that we have to spend $100K to educate ourselves on what it says? Am I reading this article correctly?