This comment was removed by the site staff for violation of the usage agreement.
Hey Willie, Yes you Mayor Willie. That Nuclear bomb you have is actually a fire cracker. I have a strong feeling that this foolishness will end Geanie Morrison's political career
I'm guessing by your response that means there are next to no elected officials in the CCE. Also, where is the list that shows Jaeckle and Murphy as being on the CCE? Or the list that shows what else the CCE has worked on?
I'm saying that if you are making decisions without thinking them through, decisions that could effect the lives of thousands of people (staff, faculty, families, students, businesses that do business with the UHV, etc.) then there better be a representative group of people to vouch for those faculty, staff, students, etc. Elected officials face consequences if things go south (not getting re-elected), business leaders suffer no such consequences.
Sorry, but the people that stand the most to lose never had a voice in this whole process.
vox, so you're saying that unless you are an elected offical then you can't represent the citizens or that only elected officals can have input on behalf of citizens?
I'd also like someone to list the members of the CCE that are elected officials. Those that have been voted in to represent the citizens of Victoria and to make decisions on our behalf.
Just to add a little to the talk about UH not wanting Sugar Land and Cinco Ranch...I may be remembering things differently so if I am wrong, please feel free to correct me.
A few years back, when they began talk about downward expansion there was some kind of discussion going on about whether or not to grant the expansion to Victoria or Sugar Land. After much debate the choice was made and Victoria won. It was that or it was about whether or not to change the branch from UH-Victoria to UH-Sugar Land and have Victoria fall under Sugar Land jurisdiction. I can't remember the exact details. If pressed I will find out, but I imagine someone else on this forum remembers it.
Not sure where you get your information HoleIn1, the list of members provided by the Advocate is here:
I don't see Jaeckle or Murphy listed. Maybe that changed since the article. Kind of hard to tell what the CCE is doing--no web page, no facebook, can't find anything on the chamber's website.
If you know where to find out who the current CCE members are and what it is up to, please let us know.
If they didn't consult with Dr. Smith, who else would they consult with before filing the bill? They certainly didn't let the acting president, staff, or faculty know...and that's a fact.
vox, it doesn't matter if Hudson was the only UHV member on the committee, which he wasn't, but that alone does not mean they didn't consult with anyone. Don't let facts get in your way. Some other folks on the CCE, Eric Murphy, UH-Victoria President's Advisory Board, Dan Jaeckle, faculty senate president, UH-Victoria.
formersting...you hit the nail pretty much on the head. When I was at UHV, the university built a replica of the newest building out in SugarLand to expand the learning center there and then a remote center in Cinco Ranch. UH really did nothing with them and did not care about the area, until they became something of significance.
Additionally, if you know of something else that the Crossroad Commission on Education has done besides this whole UHV fiasco, please let us know. I've looked everywhere and can't find anything.
This becomes very concerning for our community. IMO the city of Victoria is now in real jeapordy of maintaining this 4 year institution in it's current form. It is a very real possibility that UHV returns to being a 2 year upper division, commuter only school, with limited programs and limited activities. People do not realize how important Sugarland and Katy are to the survival of UHV. How on earth do you think they pay the employees, keep the lights on, fund athletics, and pay for daily operating cost. The fees and tuition that the Victoria campus collects from nearly 4 thousand students registered at Sugarland and Katy is essential for the current Victoria campus to even operate. This attempt to "break free" from the UH System, has now clearly set Victoria back, and placed the entire institution back. "Destination University" should be the last thing on their minds, and mere survival should be the top priority. Whether we agree with the sytem or the city leaders, our focus needs to be a plan to keep what we got afloat. This is now thin ice we tread upon.
Add the attempt to switch universities as the latest...
Boondoggle or boon doggle may refer to: Boondoggle (project), term for a scheme that wastes time and money
In fact in would be amusing to start a list of the boondoggles to grace Victoria in the last five years.
booger, how do you know that they didn't consult anyone at UHV? I'm sorry, but that would be even too dumb for Geanie.
RedRage00, what exactly is it that you think Victoria deserves?
mytwocents, how do you know that the commission hasn't done anything else besides its involvement in the UHV issue?
Representative Morrison and the Victoria Good Ole Boys Club never once consulted with UHV's administration, faculty, or staff before proposing the A&M switch, and now it's those people who are caught in the crossfire and whose careers are in jeopardy because of her actions. Hopefully the UH system will not punish UHV because of the words and actions of Victoria politicians.
Somtheing to think about...has anyone asked why 2 campuses that for all practical purposes are IN HOUSTON were even part of Victoria to begin with? Is it because back then UH did not want them and now that they are thriving with students UH wants them?
Mytwocents LOL at you...did u even read that this was coming no matter what? The "explosives" were an attempt to out maneuver...poor attempt, but hegar is the trigger puller...always was going to be.
uh, will. How about staying on track with the topic of the story? You got some deep seeded anger issues there, man.
Well Victoria HOW ARE THE REPUBLICANS TREATING YOU? How about you GOLIAD? Goliad, you get glowing water and the lovelyness thats comes with strip mining uranium, but hey Victoria, your destination plans are all out the window.How about the Union Busting? Come on Plant Bubas, where are you on this issue? If the Dems let you keep your AK's so you can hunt squirrels, will you vote these other crooks out?Goliad, you can barrow our PR and say bring your hazmat boots. Same with the Nuclear Plant glowing up on the San Antonio river.Morrison can claim she was asleep, like Reagan and does not remember conversations on this vauge issue.
This whole idea makes sense. Sugar Land and Cinco Ranch aren't even in Victoria.
Looks like Victoria is getting what they deserve!
Ugh, Oh! "Houston we have a problem"!
what onestar said!
im going to go out on a limb here and say the other campuses were leaving regardless
I dont know Onestar, the mayor and morrison and their group didn't pull the trigger. May have been put us on the radar, but Hegar and his cronies including the UH chancelor are the ones pulling the trigger. In all reality it wouldn't suprise me to find out that Hegar and UH planned this for over a year and the only way UHV could hold it all together was to switch systems. It will be a cold day in hell before hegar gets my vote again, if he is even in our district for the next election. It's obvious, like UH, he has completely different objectives and priorities and Victoria is not even close to being on them. I had actually started to begin to not want to switch, now in the last couple of days...it would make me sick to see UH in the local university name (assuming there still is one in a couple of years)
Well that nails it. Upper level college is dead in Victoria 's future
The mayor and Morrison and their group killed it. KILLED IT DEAD
The mayor needs to resign. His administration has been nothing but conflict durin g his entire term. Victoria joins the laguhing stock communities like Castroville ,floresville and Sante Fe Texas. His legecy is that he is the only mayor in the enitre history of the city of victoria that was ever indicted by a Grand Jury.
He needs to go