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VA, can we please get a picture of Sgt. Eline Moya every time you quote her?
msvictoriatexas,methinks you need to go back to school for reading comprehension.
YOU: "if all three 16-year-old boys were injured, including the driver, how is that failure to stop and render aid?"
What part of it not being the 16 year olds, but a 19 year old uninjured ADULT that was the driver and who FLED THE SCENE did you not grasp?!?!?!
Sec. 550.023. DUTY TO GIVE INFORMATION AND RENDER AID. The (((((OPERATOR)))) of a vehicle involved in an accident resulting in the injury or death of...
What part of OPERATOR of a motor vehicle do you not understand. It is the driver... NOT the passengers that are charged under the law. The girls were not the driver (operator) of the vehicle and did not cause the crash.
I also do not see in either of the two articles where it states the two girls fled the scene so just where are you getting any inside knowledge from? hmmm?
If this is true, why hasn't the Advocate reported it?If it is true and not been released to the Advocate, what are you doing spilling investigative information?
failure to stop and render aid (FSRA) is governed by Chapter 550 of the Texas Transportation Code. The penal code typically governs criminal offenses resulting in possible confinement, but the transportation code governs most offenses related to the roadway. A conviction for FSRA can result in jail time, probation and a fine. If the accident involves personal injury or death, it is a Third degree felony to leave the scene before giving aid and identifying information.
if all three 16-year-old boys were injured, including the driver, how is that failure to stop and render aid? what the police department filed to mention is that the two girl involved fled the scence right when the accident happen and were later captured.. i do believe that is consider failure to stop and render aid?
Either the driver was going way too fast or some of the people weren't wearing seat belts.
if they catch him immediately after the wreck they're going to pull a blood sample for BAC. if they catch him a couple of days later BAC isn't in play
huge difference between dui accident charges and failure to stop and render aid
ill just assume he ran due for a very specific reason
Robert,The 19 year old was discovered through investigation. He was not at the scene when the police arrived when the wreck occurred because he took off and left the other kids there to fend for themselves. Pretty clear HOW they found him. Does it really matter when?
when did the police catch up with the 19 yo ?
We all want well behaved kids (teenagers) that way all our neighbors and friends can say what good parents we are. adults braging rights you might say
I have to agree with Debunker. These people are always so quick to blame everything on bad parenting when they don't know the full story. How many teenagers have snuck out in the middle of the night and their parents don't know. It crosses all walks of life and all walks of students. I was a honor roll student in high school and I still did some stuff I shouldn't have but luckily, I was never injured and never injured anyone. You're right that saying teenagers will be teenagers doesn't excuse them. Do any of you bashing the parents KNOW that the parents didn't punish them? How do you know when the parents received the phone call about the accident that there wasn't all kinds of angry going on? I know some of these kids - some are honor roll students, some are in sports. Don't judge until you know. Instead you should be saying prayers for the recovery of the seriously injured teen and praying for these kids to have learned their lesson and hope it doesn't happen again.
superj: "well like the article says "teenagers". come on now. was there any criminal intent? how can criminal charges be filled unless there was a crime committed? these were kids operating a vehicle. now if there was negligence committed on the drivers part then charges should be filled. they go after the youngsters when the adults that with in our court and law system are committing crimes everyday. go figure."
Did you fail reading comprehension?The 19 year old driver is not being charged with the wreckThe 19 year old driver is being charged with: felony failure to stop and render aid.
The 19 year old driver fled the scene of the accident, leaving three of his 5 passengers injured, one of them dying. THAT is your "criminal intent" if you are unable to process that bit of logic. He INTENTIONALLY left the scene and fled a situation wherein he nearly caused the death of another.
How can criminal charges be filed if no crime was committed you say?
So you think it is perfectly legal for you to flee the scene of an accident YOU caused and leave behind your friends dying of injuries you caused?Thank you for showing us what kind of "person" (and I use that term loosely) you are.
As to your BS statement of police target the young and let adults go free... We have already demonstrated just how ignorant your statements are. That statement is just as ignorant.
Police target any and all that break the law. if some groups is not getting prosecuted for the crimes, look to those who do the prosecution, not to those who arrest and bring them to the prosecutors.
Aim your sights on the legal system, not the police.
Jason and BigMac,
Yes, some things haven't changed. Things like this happened "back in the day" as well.
But the tone of your posts suggests that this excuses it.IT DOES NOT!
Boys will be boys is not an excuse to not do something about a situation that was wrong then as it is wrong now.
Back then maybe there was no curfew. There is now. And the reason there is, is because of this very thing. There is NO GOOD REASON for ANY 16 year old to be out and about at that time of the morning that is either a) in company with parents... or b) up to no good, as the case was here... up to no good that is.
To all those blasting on the Parents.I agree with Riverboat and lg1975,
More often than not. teens and kids causing trouble are generally the fault of bad parenting. More often than not, when you have little hoodlums running about... all you gotta do is look at the parents to see the apples did not fall far from the trees.
BUT NOT ALWAYS!As stated, many times kids will do things IN SPITE OF good parenting.
So until you do know the facts of the case, you need to stop casting blame towards people you do not know.
What many of you may not know is that though this seriously injured boy is recovering... The nature of the injuries were so severe that the police were handling the case as a fatality because the boy was not expected to survive. And here you ignorant uninformed opinionated people are blaming the parents in their grief for nearly losing their son for something that may or may not be the fault of bad parenting.
I am not saying the parents are "Parents of the Year" material. They may be, they may not be.The point is... I don't know AND NEITHER DO YOU!
Thank you Riverboat. Yes there is more to this story that the Advocate has not explained. First of all the time is wrong that it the time the seriously injured boy arrived at the hospital and thats because they needed the Jaws of life to get him out of the vehicle. I know first hand what happened that night. So until you do lay off the mean comments. These parents are going through enough especially one with almost losing their son.
Eee-NUFF! with the bad parenting shtick! I can assure you that kids will do things in SPITE of everything the best parents can do. Until we know more about the circumstances, I suggest we lay off the folks in charge.
Just goes back to bad parenting... what are 15-16 year olds doing out at 3:45am??? Where are the parents??? And for the 19 year old... hang with peeps your age... really??? If your going to punish one, you might as well punish them all. Set an example... Guess we are leaving it up to our courts to do the parenting for those lacking the skills...
Somethings never change. Boys chasing Girls. In a 100 years teenagers will be crashing space cars at 3 in the morning. Glad they didn't get hurt any worse than they did. I remember my dad telling me he took his dads car out at 3 in the morning and it got totaled and they was back in 1934.Somethings never change.
Kash he had a car that he could get at 3:45 in the morning. The question should have been what were 5 16 year olds doing with a 19 year old? Using him for his vehicle.
What was a 19 year doing running around at 345 with 5 16 year olds?
3:45 am and 16? No, I can't imagine myself there. 3:45 am and 18? That's a different story. And I was an honors student.
That said, three injured, one seriously, a failure to stay at the scene and render aid? This needs something more than a wink and a nod. I'm ok with refering this to the DA, even with the sketchy and vague information in this piece.
well like the article says "teenagers". come on now. was there any criminal intent? how can criminal charges be filled unless there was a crime committed? these were kids operating a vehicle. now if there was negligence committed on the drivers part then charges should be filled. they go after the youngsters when the adults that with in our court and law system are committing crimes everyday. go figure.
maybe they are all honor students and just wanted to get to school early to knock out studying ?
Hmm, let me try to remember what it was like to be 16...
Oh yeah, this could have just as easily happened to me 35 years ago.
What do you folks think, this generation is the first one to have kids that did something stupid?
3:45 a.m. and 16 years old...What N3225J said.
Does Victoria have a curfew or is this top secret? Nothing going on new here. Just braging right at the High School.