Having been a practicing,12 years Catholic school-attending memeber of the club in Baton Rouge I finally decided not to renew my membership!
BUT I consider myself a Cultural Catholic. As I've stated before here,if you don't want to follow the rules,don't join the club of get out and find one you like. There is a vast difference between "religion" and "organized religion".
I think I'm off topic. Bye
Pat Barnes

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Tophat,
I'm sorry BUT WPT is a known Catholic. He uses Catholic web sites for most of his research. Him and a few other local Catholics (MAW and SV)are the spokespersons for the anti-artificial contraceptive and anti-abortion viewpoint. People who read the LTTE have his letters as the only information about this issue.
Patrick Barnes

Here is a odd solution, same sex marriages. I am not recommending or condemning the life style but it is an effective method of birth control.

Just saying.

We've had several self proclaimed spokesmen for the Catholic Church.... Will the real spokesman please step forward. ...Credentials please.

Tophat,

Wm. Paul Tasin has made himself *a* spokesperson for the Catholic Church! He is the one who repeatedly champions this issue.

Yeah, he is.

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Mr. T pities the fool that uses birth control. I've heard of blind faith, but I wasn't aware that it was deaf and dumb, too.

My Bible is a bit dusty and my ability to recall all of scripture is wack, but could you please tell me the verse where it states that birth control is blasphemy?

Highly ironic that a group of men who don't marry, have sex or even date have such power over the way couples are supposed to live. Would you take advice on how to build a house from a person that's forbidden from picking up a hammer?

EA,
Vasectomies and tubal ligations are really effective,too. I know,I had a V done in 1970. It dependes on how much of the vas the doc removes that counts. BUT WPT has a comeback for that,too. He has data and horror stories(from catholic-based webbies I guess) about the dangers of that,too. His anti-birth control LTTE are like the time change. They come around a couple of times a year whether you want them or not.
Patrick Barnes

Natural Family Planning Method As Effective As Contraceptive Pill, New Research Finds
ScienceDaily (Feb. 21, 2007) — Researchers have found that a method of natural family planning that uses two indicators to identify the fertile phase in a woman's menstrual cycle is as effective as the contraceptive pill for avoiding unplanned pregnancies if used correctly, according to a report published online in Europe's leading reproductive medicine journal Human Reproduction today (21 February). [1]

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The symptothermal method (STM) is a form of natural family planning (NFP) that enables couples to identify accurately the time of the woman's fertile phase by measuring her temperature and observing cervical secretions. In the largest, prospective study of STM, the researchers found that if the couples then either abstained from sex or used a barrier method during the fertile period, the rate of unplanned pregnancies per year was 0.4% and 0.6% respectively. Out of all the 900 women who took part in the study, including those who had unprotected sex during their fertile period, 1.8 per 100 became unintentionally pregnant.

The lead author of the report, Petra Frank-Herrmann, assistant professor and managing director of the natural fertility section in the Department of Gynaecological Endocrinology at the University of Heidelberg, Germany, said: "For a contraceptive method to be rated as highly efficient as the hormonal pill, there should be less than one pregnancy per 100 women per year when the method is used correctly. The pregnancy rate for women who used the STM method correctly in our study was 0.4%, which can be interpreted as one pregnancy occurring per 250 women per year. Therefore, we maintain that the effectiveness of STM is comparable to the effectiveness of modern contraceptive methods such as oral contraceptives, and is an effective and acceptable method of family planning."

Since we know the only 100% birth control is just simply to not engage in sexual intercourse, I have often wondered why the failure rate for contraception is not greater than it is.

Seriously, if God so disapproves of any method but NFP, why isn't the failure rate on everything else greater than it is?

Heard a great joke the other day... What do you call people who practice NFP as a method of birth control? Parents! Mr. T, you can stand there all day and say what you like about the side effects of medical birth control options and I'll throw just as many back about the lack of reliability of NFP.

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And, no matter what anyone says, or how they rail against sex outside of marriage, it is a reality. How does that fit in with your no divorce, strengthen marriage, scenerio. Mr. Tasin?
I'm thinking that it is the folks that are not married that, on average, do not want to produce a baby.
I think everyone that is on the pill, has had it explained to them what the dangers are. If not that, it is on the literature that comes with every prescription of bc pills.
I took my chances and don't regret it for a second.

NFP has been around since dirt was invented. It is also known as 'from when you can until you can't'.

I don't guess Tasin has ever glanced around the sanctuary while he's attending mass and observed the families sitting around him. I venture to say most don't have more than a couple of two or three children. Think he ever wonders why? Think he wonders if they are using some kind of other contraception?

NFP is great for folks who want to use it. But, if that is not your choice, then Wm. Paul Tasin should not be telling you what to use. He's not our boss. He's not even our spiritual leader.

NF what? How many do you need to take to lose contact with reality?

There is absolutely no data that suggest that there is never a divorce if using NFP

Meanwhile the doctors wont tell you and know one knows about the completely natural and more effective in every way...NFP
Birth Control Pill – No! NFP PILL - Yes!
Yaz, IUD, Patch, BC Pill, can kill you, blind you and have all kinds of serious medical effects. NFP-PILL has only good side effects. NFP-Pill is 100% safe! And the good news is, that it lasts a life time! It cost only a fraction of the BC Pill! And has these wonderful good side effects...Strengthening of your marriage... No Divorce! And it is All natural.
You can not get pregnant (when used correctly) unless it is the will of God! (He would only do what is best for you.)
For more information on NFP contact:
NFP and more.org You and your spouse will be glad you did.

And, did you know that maternal mortality is one of the leading causes of death among women worldwide?
Experts blame the fact that women in some countries do not have access to family planning, prenatal care, and contraceptives, so pregnancy can be, and is, lethal to some women.
This is one fact that men just don't get.

The parents blame the contraceptive. The first part of grief is blame. Was there an autopsy done to determine the cause of death?
I'm not saying yea or nay on this because I don't see all of the facts presented.

Another Beautiful Life Lost
Erica Langhart was taking a ‘third-generation’ contraceptive when she died suddenly; parents blame the drug
By Kelcie Peghe, the Durango Herald Friday, February 17, 2012

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Erika Langhart
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What friends of Durango native Erika Langhart seemed to love most about her was her humor.“She had great stories. Ridiculous things always seemed to happen to her,” said Jessica Knutzon, 24, a fellow American University alumni.
“She had this story where she’s asleep in her bed and her dad comes to her room, and goes, ‘Why are there two llamas at our house right now?’ And she goes, ‘Dad, I swear to God, it wasn’t me. I didn’t have anything to do with this llama situation,’” Knutzon said.
Knutzon, like so many who knew her, described Langhart as witty, jovial and incredibly driven. Tall and poised, she was headed to law school at Georgetown University.
Instead, Langhart died on Nov. 24, 2011, at just 24 years old, and her family is blaming a prescription contraceptive whose potentially deadly side effect they say was not adequately disclosed.
CONTRACEPTION IS KILLING THE WORLD

Mr. Tasin also doesn't account for the many occasions that contraceptives actually save women's lives, either directly or indirectly.
A woman on contraceptives has to see the doctor regularly to get the prescription, and in doing so, is monitored more closely than women who don't. Diseases and illnesses are caught earlier and treated promptly.
I think maybe a man is not capable of understanding a woman's reproductive issues, so Mr. Tasin, stick to what you know.

Read any warning statement on any medication, over the counter and prescription. You will see horrific possibilities. While there may be evidence of potential adverse effects I think the manufactures, on advise of counsel, just keep listing from A to Z so as to cover their posterior.

Ever notice how fast and how long the warning statements on the average TV ad for medications to cure your toenail or eyelash problem? Wonder why?

This brings to mind the result of poking a stick into an ant hill. On the one hand, I think Mr. Tasin is implying an incidence of adverse efffects from oral contraceptives that is exaggerated. On the other hand, any cursory review of the literature shows documented evidence of adverse effects. To take but one example, the manufacturer's package insert for Ortho Tri-Cyclen lists blood clots, heart attacks and strokes, gallbladder disease, liiver tumors and cancer of the reproductive organs and breasts as potential side effects. These side effects would not be listed had they not occurred in sufficient numbers to be statistically significant. It also details the number of deaths per 100,000 women that are associated with the use of oral contraceptives. These range from 0.3 - 2.2 for the 15 -19 age cohort to 31.6 - 117.2 for the 40 -44 age cohort. So, while there are clearly risks associated with the use of oral contraceptives, the relative risk is fairly low.

APPLAUDS Sugar Magnolia. Please, VicAd, take this insipid letter down. And please don't encourage him or the other....citizens....with their signs.

vet, you are hilarious!

Sugar, Radiobabe is correct--why should we let real facts get in the way of Tasin's bogus info?

Here's a fact, though--Tasin does not have a uterus. I do. I won't mess with his Viagra if he will leave contraception alone. My uterus is already full of old republican men with trans-vaginal probes, I don't need him in there, too.

And now a word from our sponsor, "All you women take off them shoes and git back in the kitchen". The pregnant issue is assumed.

Read a remarkable editorial by Kathleen Parker in today's Houston Chronicle. To bad it isn't available in the Victoria Advocate. We would be able to find out is a fit of righteous rage can be terminal.

I respectfully request the VicAd remove this LTE due to patently false and incorrect information willingly put forth by the author.

"malignant neoplasms of trachea, bronchus, and lung" has ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION to oral contraceptives whatsoever. And, Radiobabe, to me, one of the most IMPORTANT benefits of oral contraceptives is that less people will come into this already overpopulated planet. But I've already gone down that road.

My point here is that the author's facts are WRONG, and purposely false information is now in newsprint (and online) just because he wants to stir the pot again. This does not meet the criteria for a publishable letter to the editor. I would urge the VicAd to be more selective in the letters they deem fit for publication; it seems they are printing ANY submission lately, no matter how inane or false the material contained therein may be.

EA...

I know, I know. That's the same thing my husband said this morning when I told him about the letter and my comment. All I can say is that I don't see a "Dr." ahead of Mr. Tasin's name and by OB/GYN is pretty well educated on the subject so I think I'll take his opinion over Mr. T's any day. Additionally, I think I'll also side with every national and world health orgazination... but why should we let a little think like facts get in the way of Mr. T's rant, huh?

In the past, the Advocate has removed at least one of Wm. Paul Tasin's letters for containing bogus information.

Perhaps this one needs to be removed for containing factually incomplete information.

Radiobabe--you are venturing in Tasin's area of expertise--breast cancer. He believes that you can't get breast cancer unless you have had an abortion. Don't drag in birth control pills--you're going to screw up his main message!

born, Tophat--he has a singular fixation and he is never going to budge. Calling this too vague is going easy.

Shall we discuss the positive effects of taking birth control pills such as reduced risks for breast cancer?

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Mr. Tasin,

Go do some research on the dangers of alcohol consumption and fast food consumption. Fast food consumption is on the rise too, so those statistics you mentioned are very possibly from eating a bad diet.

Your facts are way to vague.

I would think the ages of the deceased would answer most of your questions Mr. Tasin. I would bet the percentage of the deceased who were taking the pill is miniscule to non-existant.

Who reads the print-outs of every drug you get at the drug store? It's almost enough to scare anyone out of taking any kind of medication. Every drug comes with warnings and scary possibilities.

got to love the crazies in this town

Oh, come on, Writein--let's him a chance to provide some valid stats. I don't think he can, but let's let him try.

Here we again with the nonsense. When will this non-sense end?

If you are going to cite statistics to corroborate your claims, why did you stop just short of including the age statistics?

Could it be that most 65-100 year old women are not taking the pill?

Come back with some real numbers regarding the ages of the deceased, and then we'll see if your stuff is valid or not.