jmoore:I don’t have to “you work for the company and know that they lack the training in this area GOP Love child” to know something is wrong here:
The Nixon-based company ... was cited for 17 "serious" violations by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration after the conclusion of an inspection in February, according to an OSHA news release. The violations resulted in proposed fines of about $70,200.
Like I said: "Working safely on these tanks is not rocket science. There are violations here"
Does the headline(try to????) make you think the accident actually occurred during a "fracking" operation?
Many times a company is responsible not because of safety planning, but because of work demands placed on the employee. If the employee feels hopelessly swamped with work, he may choose to skip some safety procedures to save time. While the employee is really the responsible party, the company supplied the catalyst. Most accidents are caused by a failure to follow procedures. The only real accident is when equipment fails due to an unknown defect that could not be found during normal maintenance. Again, the equipment must be properly maintained or it becomes a safety violation and not a defect.
You are correct, I have no idea what actually happened. I'm not blaming anyone. However, a shortcut WAS taken somewhere, or this wouldn't have happened.
I worked in the oilfield in the 70's and 80's. My entire training program consisted of how to properly put on a hardhat, that steel toes were better than not, that heavy steel will hurt you, and being stupid will kill you. The terms safety or procedures was never mentioned.
I have heard the modern day oil field actually has training programs.
Any time there is an accident like this somebody usually violated something. To blatantly accuse the company based solely on this articles complete lack of any real information shows nothing more than a person eager to blame a company regardless of who did what. In many cases of over eager people jumping to blame a company, they are also hoping for a big windfall whether they were in the right or in the wrong.
It's sad a couple of folks were hurt but even sadder that blamers are on here claiming something exists when they know little about it.
oh and to further clarify, an incident becomes a recordable as soon as the employee has to see a doctor. Even getting a shard of metal picked out of your eye is a recordable. This is a good system. A industry-regulating system. Be safe, or don't get anymore work.
I work in the petroleum industry as well. The "catch us if you can" policies really don't exist anymore. Remember that every little drilling, fracking, production, cement, wire-line, service, etc... companies work for a bigger company. Those companies work for an even bigger company. In the end you get to groups like Exxon, Shell, and Conoco. A company will make much more money and much faster if they adhere to the strict safety regulations. It's called TRIR (total recordable incident rate). Each company that hires the smaller company has a TRIR that the people they hire must stay below. If you bust that number, your work dries up. I've seen it happen to plenty of companies. The incentive is to work safely. The costs for a single accident/fatality can reach into the millions. I've seen that too. Ultimately, it is the companies responsibility to maintain a safe work environment. Not to sound cold, but from a business/financial standpoint, you make MORE money when your employees are safe.
I've worked in the oil and gas industry and engineering since the 70s. These things don’t happen when a company's management places Safety Training and Procedures in place for dealing with tanks, especially in the yard. These explosive gases and liquids are classified. Working safely on these tanks is not rocket science. There are violations here.
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Don't want to get into any spittin' contest over whose party can work wonders and create miracles. Both parties leave a lot to be desired in not paying as much attention to their jobs as they do their "generous political donors'" wish lists. One of the first budget cuts on the never-ending bickering over spending cuts is the enforcement personnel needed to oversee various laws. Safety issues are often a big game to employers unless proper enforcement occurs frequently. A "catch us if you can mentality" exists. Safety procedures and personnel training are mandatory, by law, for most employers. Power is delegated to the states by OSHA for oversight and enforcement. Unfortunately, both parties are guilty of dropping the ball when it comes to oversight, but Republicans are more apt to do so because of their total distate for government interference into a company's business. Not to say Democrats do an outstanding job because they don't do all that can be done either. Many companies will put aside procedures which interfere with the rapid output of their product. Their theory is often that being caught is less expensive (even when large fines are levied) than their diligent attention to regulatory requirements. This company's job site probably has a billboard with safety requirements posters, and probably even has a company safety manual, also required by law. Whether or not the billboard and actual active adherence are the same often differ because of the demands of making money as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, employees are usually the ones to pay the price for this neglect, this mind frame. Sad.
So I guess you work for the company and know that they lack the training in this area GOP Love child?
These things happen whe a company's management lacks Safety Training and Procedures