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What do you think of the new rule requiring religious hospitals and schools to provide contraception coverage for employees?

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For 29% 44 votes

Against 71% 108 votes

152 total votes

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  • Uhh, LBJ spent all his career in the Senate blocking civil rights legislation. Ted Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, FDR and LBJ were progressives. JFK was more of a traditional liberal, a strong believer in free enterprise....

    February 10, 2012 at 5:28 p.m.
  • John Kennedy defined a liberal as follows:
    “ ...someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal', then I’m proud to say I’m a 'Liberal'.[3][4]

    Modern American liberalism is a form of liberalism developed from progressive ideals such as Theodore Roosevelt's New Nationalism, Woodrow Wilson's New Freedom, Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal, John F. Kennedy's New Frontier, and Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. It combines social liberalism and social progressivism with support for social justice and a mixed economy. American liberal causes include voting rights for African Americans, abortion rights for women, gay rights and government entitlements such as education and health care

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_l...

    But this has nothing to do with the topic...

    February 10, 2012 at 4:05 p.m.
  • This is how the American Heritage Dictionary defines a liberal:

    "The state or quality of being liberal.

    A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority.

    often Liberalism The tenets or policies of a Liberal party.

    An economic theory in favor of laissez-faire, the free market, and the gold standard."

    Sounds like Ron Paul and it sure the h3ll doesn't sound like our current President. So if he's not a liberal what is he?

    February 10, 2012 at 3:56 p.m.
  • Born

    I think you will agree the definition of conservatism is all over the map these days... Some are not conservative enough, whatever.

    I'm reading a book about conservatism but the best definition I have so far is that" the priority of a conservative political argument has been the maintenance of private regimes of power-even at the cost of the strength and integrity of the state. Historically, conservatives have favored liberty for the higher order and constraint for the lower order...That's why they don't like .Unions,regulations,taxes and the assault on Wall Street and Corps...etc.

    It gets its start from Edmund Burke and the French revolution.

    It has all the makings of a good blog..:-)

    February 10, 2012 at 2:57 p.m.
  • Hmmmm

    Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis)[1] is the belief in the importance of liberty and equal rights.[2] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally liberals support ideas such as constitutionalism, liberal democracy, free and fair elections, human rights, capitalism, and freedom of religion.

    Conservatism
    Definition
    Not a clear cut philosophy but a set of beliefs which, in general, tend to support (1) free enterprise capitalism, (2) continuation of traditions, (3) minimal government intervention in economy, (4) strict law and order enforcement, and (5) gradual change as opposed to radical reform. Conservatism evolved during 1750 and 1850, a period of upheaval in Western societies, beginning with the idea of enlightenment and French Revolution (1789) and continuing with the industrial revolution. It has a non-doctrinaire approach and pragmatic outlook but has opposed many progressive ideas such as universal adult suffrage (specially for women), emancipation of slaves, and religious freedom.

    February 10, 2012 at 2:28 p.m.
  • Kyle, L. Ron Hubbard has already tried that defense and lost, but it was a nice try.

    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Cowen/essa...

    February 10, 2012 at 2:14 p.m.
  • It's against my religious beliefs to pay taxes!

    February 10, 2012 at 1:45 p.m.
  • The key word here is (mandated)… All of you liberal followers of Obama, you might take a look and read the “Declaration of Independence.” In Webster’s Dictionary you can find a copy in the back.
    This President is off his rocker… It has been noted and documented that Obama has made the claim… The Constitution is flawed… The only thing that is flawed is this President!

    February 10, 2012 at 1:32 p.m.
  • When my daughter was younger, she was prescribed the pill to regulate her extreme, continuous, menstral cycle. She would become anemic. It also was a great help with her "teenage" acne.

    February 10, 2012 at 12:11 p.m.
  • The WH just offered their compromise and some will have to wait on the Bishops to make up their mind for them. The GOP politicians will now make the issue about birth control pills..After all, Rick Santorum on the record saying that he wants Federal law to ban contraceptives.

    Under the new plan, religiously affiliated universities and hospitals will not be forced to offer contraception coverage to their employees. Insurers will be required, however, to offer complete coverage free of charge to any women who work at such institutions.

    Female employees at churches themselves will have no guarantee of any contraception coverage -- a continuation of current law.
    There will be a one-year transition period for religious organizations after the policy formally takes effect on August 1.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/10/politic...

    February 10, 2012 at 11:15 a.m.
  • It is somewhat amazing that seperation of church and state only works one way for Liberals.

    February 10, 2012 at 10:54 a.m.
  • I saw where the first lawsuit was filed yesterday to keep a religious affiliated organization from having to comply with the mandate.

    It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the coming days, even months.

    February 10, 2012 at 10:51 a.m.
  • Back in 2001 when George W. Bush was the president Republican Olympia Snowe said this,“It really does get down to a matter of basic fairness, fairness to half of the nation's population, fairness in how we treat and view women's reproductive health care versus every other health care need that is addressed through prescription drug coverage,” Snowe said a Sept. 10 2001 hearing. “Make no mistake about it, the lack of coverage for prescription contraceptives in our health insurance policy has a very really impact on the lives of women in America, and certainly on our society as a whole.”

    Susan Collins (another republican) and a member of the Senate health committee at the time said in a statement that Snowe’s legislation was important because, “While women clearly view contraception as basic to their health and to their lives, health insurers in the United States traditionally have not. While health plans routinely cover other prescriptions and outpatient medical services, contraceptive coverage is meager or nonexistent in many health insurance policies.” The bill which went nowhere but had the support of 5 GOP senators and 15 GOP house members.

    They were right back then but this time they have a different opinion..That seems to be a republican pattern. It’s a shame that women already have to pay 68% more than men for an insurance policy..14% of women take birth control for health issues other than avoiding pregnancies.

    28 states already have a plan that states if “prescription drugs are in an insurance policy then contraceptives should be included in the package."

    The WH will make a proposal to compromise this afternoon but I just heard a Cardinal say this morning that they cannot compromise freedom.

    February 10, 2012 at 10:10 a.m.
  • “One thing I think is crystal clear — there is no First Amendment violation by this law,” Adam Winkler, a constitutional law professor at UCLA, told TPM. “The Supreme Court was very clear in a case called Employment Division v. Smith, written by none other than Antonin Scalia, that religious believers and institutions are not entitled to an exemption from generally applicable laws.”

    http://tinyurl.com/76bvwqr

    February 10, 2012 at 9:51 a.m.
  • Please remember that contraceptives are prescribed for more than simple birth control. On a personal level, only one of my daughters is sexually active and she can't use the pill due to extreme nausea from any/all of them. Another daughter has a prescription due to ovarian cysts, which if left untreated results in pain and surgery. Another daughter experiences nausea, pain and heavy bleeding for two weeks of each cycle. The pill corrects that problem. Another niece also experienced ovarian cysts. My own mother was prescribed the pill in her 40s and 50s due to issues with menopause. This delves into the area of women's health issues.

    February 10, 2012 at 9:49 a.m.
  • Hospitals are you freaking kidding me. I think if your in the medical field you need to provide all care not just the ones you want to provide. As far as the school goes I believe it is up to the people who are paying to send their kids there. BUT A HOSPITAL give me a break they should provide all forms of care!

    February 10, 2012 at 9:48 a.m.