Taken in context, I assumed the word to mean that this individual feels that their parents are putting pressure on them regarding "grades, sports, and basically life in general."
As for the rest of your post, feel free to express your opinion to your hearts delight. I was merely expressing mine and directing it at you.
No one in this thread has suggested that anyone is looking for a resort campus. To point out that some campuses have the beauty of a resort (in hopes of encouraging college enrollment) does not equate to suggesting that attending college is like visiting a resort. I think most people understand this.
No one in this thread has encouraged failing classes because "well, they can take it again." Pointing out the fact that classes can be retaken if circumstances take a turn for the worse, does not equate to a flippant attitude about academic performance.
No one in this thread has encouraged people to sleep in late "just because." There are a multitude of reasons why you might want to schedule classes later in the day. Many people work nights to pay for day classes. Being able to sleep in would greatly benefit these people and people in similar situations.
Pointing out the benefits of college life as compared to high school life does not equate to not being "SERIOUS" about college.
It is possible to enjoy the beauty of a campus, retake classes you had trouble with, and avoid 8:00 am classes while still taking college seriously.
As a side note:
pres·sur·iz·ing
1: to confine the contents of under a pressure greater than that of the outside atmosphere; especially : to maintain near-normal atmospheric pressure in during high-altitude or spaceflight (as by means of a supercharger)
If you disagree with anything I have said, feel free to bring it up. I'm more than happy to help explain. I prefer to address the issues rather than speculating about one another's identity and calling people prejudiced.
I do have some problems with the system. Specifically, these points:
1. I wish thee Master Planning Committee would have done more research before they drew up a plan that included buying land from VC. VC does not want to sell their land to UHV.
2. I think that the Chancellor picked an extraordinarily bad time to pull Hudson from UHV.
3. I wish that the regents would have been more supportive of downward expansion in the early meetings. While it did get accomplished, Welcome Wilson's intitial resistance set the mood for a lot of negative emotions here locally for what turned out to be a successful project.
But yes, I agree with you that the System would like to see UHV succeed. Since UHV is part of the system, it is in their best interest for UHV to succeed. Over the years, Chancellors come and go. Some are great for UHV while others are so-so.
As for switching to TAMU...honestly, that proposal took me completely by surprise, so I can't give you much information on it. If you want my opinion on the matter, I don't feel strongly about it either way. I like UHV in its current form, but if a switch did occur, it is my opinion that the employees that have that the University a success as UHV would continue to make it a success as TAMUV.
UHV has been going through some tough times lately with all the administrative turnover. But things have been worse. Anyone that is predicting doom and gloom for UHV due to the recent problems has a short memory.
UHV has more than 3 students. An old leaky hotel has been turned into a functioning dorm. The student housing is bursting at the seems, and plans for additional accomodations are under way. Take a look at the last document legion357 posted. Projections are to have over 1000 students lving here in Victoria in 5 years. Based on current growth, it will happen.
bighorn,
You are right. There are members that are members of the general public that are ill informed, ill advised, and poorly suited to express opinions about UHV. You don't have to be an administrative bureaucrat to know this. You just have to read the comments on the Victroria Advocate.
Sugar Land will eventually have their own University no matter what. That is my prediction. The city of SL has wanted one for years, and they have the population and growth to support it.
So, who is being unrealistic?
My belief is that another University in the area would cause a slight dip in enrollment numbers for UHV, but UHV will be fine in the long run. The growth rate for UHV is so good, that they can afford to slow down a little without too much of a negative impact.
Your belief is that UHV will somehow magically lose all of the students in SL and CR and have to close. What did you say in another thread? You said, "It's over for UHV" and "Will the last faculty member to leave town, please turn out the lights at UHV?"
If you tell me anything that I have said that you disagree with, I would be happy to explain why and supply any evidence as to why I believe it to be so.
If challenged, I prefer to present my case and back up what I say as opposed to poking out my lower lip, raising my chin and using terms like "the likes of you."
The students wouldn't necessarily have to come to Victoria. Since this is all hypothetical, it's hard to be specific, but a number of possibilities exist.
If UH opened a branch in SL, UHV wouldn't necessarily be kicked out. In this case, UHV could continue to use the facility with the systems permission. Branches have been known to work together, after all. If UHV was kicked out, then UHV administration would find another local facility to use. It wouldn't be the first time the teaching center has moved. Given enough notice, this would be a lot of work, but not a problem.
As for UH taking over, it's not as simple of a matter of simply supplying professors to cover for other professors. Again, programs are not the same across the board. UHV spent years developing these programs to fit the student body. This is not something another University can take on blindly and be successful.
My singular point here is that UHV would not lose the students for a number of reasons. One of which is the logistics of transferring a large number of students (each with their own unique situations, credits, degree plans, and financial aid) during a session break.
Another reason, which is more important, the students made the CHOICE to enroll at UHV despite the fact that there was so much competition for higher education in the area.
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SugarMagnolia,
Taken in context, I assumed the word to mean that this individual feels that their parents are putting pressure on them regarding "grades, sports, and basically life in general."
As for the rest of your post, feel free to express your opinion to your hearts delight. I was merely expressing mine and directing it at you.
Have a great day!
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woofwoof,
Thank you for invalidating my points so effectively.
Sugarmagnolia,
Let's hope woofwoof is the exception, not the rule.
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SugarMagnolia,
No one in this thread has suggested that anyone is looking for a resort campus. To point out that some campuses have the beauty of a resort (in hopes of encouraging college enrollment) does not equate to suggesting that attending college is like visiting a resort. I think most people understand this.
No one in this thread has encouraged failing classes because "well, they can take it again." Pointing out the fact that classes can be retaken if circumstances take a turn for the worse, does not equate to a flippant attitude about academic performance.
No one in this thread has encouraged people to sleep in late "just because." There are a multitude of reasons why you might want to schedule classes later in the day. Many people work nights to pay for day classes. Being able to sleep in would greatly benefit these people and people in similar situations.
Pointing out the benefits of college life as compared to high school life does not equate to not being "SERIOUS" about college.
It is possible to enjoy the beauty of a campus, retake classes you had trouble with, and avoid 8:00 am classes while still taking college seriously.
As a side note:
pres·sur·iz·ing
1: to confine the contents of under a pressure greater than that of the outside atmosphere; especially : to maintain near-normal atmospheric pressure in during high-altitude or spaceflight (as by means of a supercharger)
2: to apply pressure to
3: to design to withstand pressure
Source: Merriam Webster
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bighorn,
If you disagree with anything I have said, feel free to bring it up. I'm more than happy to help explain. I prefer to address the issues rather than speculating about one another's identity and calling people prejudiced.
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legion357,
I do have some problems with the system. Specifically, these points:
1. I wish thee Master Planning Committee would have done more research before they drew up a plan that included buying land from VC. VC does not want to sell their land to UHV.
2. I think that the Chancellor picked an extraordinarily bad time to pull Hudson from UHV.
3. I wish that the regents would have been more supportive of downward expansion in the early meetings. While it did get accomplished, Welcome Wilson's intitial resistance set the mood for a lot of negative emotions here locally for what turned out to be a successful project.
But yes, I agree with you that the System would like to see UHV succeed. Since UHV is part of the system, it is in their best interest for UHV to succeed. Over the years, Chancellors come and go. Some are great for UHV while others are so-so.
As for switching to TAMU...honestly, that proposal took me completely by surprise, so I can't give you much information on it. If you want my opinion on the matter, I don't feel strongly about it either way. I like UHV in its current form, but if a switch did occur, it is my opinion that the employees that have that the University a success as UHV would continue to make it a success as TAMUV.
UHV has been going through some tough times lately with all the administrative turnover. But things have been worse. Anyone that is predicting doom and gloom for UHV due to the recent problems has a short memory.
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reeder,
UHV has more than 3 students. An old leaky hotel has been turned into a functioning dorm. The student housing is bursting at the seems, and plans for additional accomodations are under way. Take a look at the last document legion357 posted. Projections are to have over 1000 students lving here in Victoria in 5 years. Based on current growth, it will happen.
bighorn,
You are right. There are members that are members of the general public that are ill informed, ill advised, and poorly suited to express opinions about UHV. You don't have to be an administrative bureaucrat to know this. You just have to read the comments on the Victroria Advocate.
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reeder,
Sugar Land will eventually have their own University no matter what. That is my prediction. The city of SL has wanted one for years, and they have the population and growth to support it.
So, who is being unrealistic?
My belief is that another University in the area would cause a slight dip in enrollment numbers for UHV, but UHV will be fine in the long run. The growth rate for UHV is so good, that they can afford to slow down a little without too much of a negative impact.
Your belief is that UHV will somehow magically lose all of the students in SL and CR and have to close. What did you say in another thread? You said, "It's over for UHV" and "Will the last faculty member to leave town, please turn out the lights at UHV?"
That comment (and my reply) can be found here: http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/news/...
The casual reader can make their own determination on who is short sighted. I think it's obvious who has the flair for the dramatic.
By the way, just in case you didn't catch the :P emoticon I threw in to indicate sarcasm......I'm not really a UHV administrator.
legion357,
Unfortunately, I couldn't open your first link. It's acting like it's a dead link, so I couldn't compare it to the second link.
But I do want to thank you for contributing something thought provoking to the conversation. It was refreshing.
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bighorn,
If you tell me anything that I have said that you disagree with, I would be happy to explain why and supply any evidence as to why I believe it to be so.
If challenged, I prefer to present my case and back up what I say as opposed to poking out my lower lip, raising my chin and using terms like "the likes of you."
Have a great day!
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Hello, RedRage00. Welcome to my party. :)
The students wouldn't necessarily have to come to Victoria. Since this is all hypothetical, it's hard to be specific, but a number of possibilities exist.
If UH opened a branch in SL, UHV wouldn't necessarily be kicked out. In this case, UHV could continue to use the facility with the systems permission. Branches have been known to work together, after all.
If UHV was kicked out, then UHV administration would find another local facility to use. It wouldn't be the first time the teaching center has moved. Given enough notice, this would be a lot of work, but not a problem.
As for UH taking over, it's not as simple of a matter of simply supplying professors to cover for other professors. Again, programs are not the same across the board. UHV spent years developing these programs to fit the student body. This is not something another University can take on blindly and be successful.
My singular point here is that UHV would not lose the students for a number of reasons. One of which is the logistics of transferring a large number of students (each with their own unique situations, credits, degree plans, and financial aid) during a session break.
Another reason, which is more important, the students made the CHOICE to enroll at UHV despite the fact that there was so much competition for higher education in the area.
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bighorn,
I don't care what you support, and it has nothing to do with what I'm asking you for.
I didn't comment on the use of a university as an economic engine for anyone, so I don't have any further comment on the matter.
What I'm asking you for is simple:
Cite your sources for your claims that the Victoria branch is artificially jacked up by UH.
Cite your sources for your claims that enrollment numbers are inflated.
Simple enough for you, bighorn?
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