Yes Raven8 - I DO 'get' it. Do you? is it clealy (sic) written?
Doesn't say people in Hell see people in Heaven - says that the rich man in HADES saw Lazarus in ABRAHAM'S BOSOM. Find someone who can explain Hades, Hell, Sheol, Gehenna, Abraham's Bosom, Paradise and Heaven to you...
Why don't I pick on Muslims? They are not spreading bad information about a book I love.
Jared - Rev 5:8 has nothing to do with this discussion. It describes the scene around the throne in heaven, yes - but your relatives are NOT the elders or the angels described.
I have no doubt that when the Son of God shouted "Lazarus, come back!" that he heard him clearly - wherever he was. But to infer that Lazarus could have been watching and listening to the conversations of others just prior to that - great imagination - no Biblical basis.
And finally, I will respectfully disagree with your Cathloic doctrine and say that I believe that prayers are for God - ONLY. We can intercede for others still living while we're here on earth - but prayers FOR the dead and prayers TO the dead are a waste of breath. We need to make up our minds what to do with Jesus BEFORE we die...
Just for the record - I didn't say that people in heaven COULD NOT see events on earth - I said that there is nothing in the Bible that confirms that this might be the case, and it seems unlikely.
1. Nothing here mentioned overcharging. The most common billing error happens when the city can't read your meter for some reason and estimates the usage. Eventually, an actual reading is taken and the account is adjusted. Meters that are more efficient don't mean that you've been overcharged already. Statistics show that most public utility billing undercharges around 10% per year. 2. The meters don't change water rates. They simply record usage. Yes, more accurately and more detail than before - but just usage. If the city ever decides to implement variable water rates based on time, amounts, etc. - you can bet there will be a full house at the council meeting. This comment is just crying wolf... 3. Don't know the answer for the exact model being installed, but most meters now have batteries that last 5-20 years AND there are some units that don't require batteries at all. Good question tho.
It would be nice to have more public information on this project. Are we just implementing wireless meters that require city employees to drive around to collect the data, or are we moving to a complete wireless system where the data is collected wirelessly through an established network? If not the latter, why not?
I can't find anyone named 'Lazardus' in the Bible. In the story of LAZARUS and the rich man, it says that the rich man in Hades could see Lazarus in 'Abraham's Bosom' (or 'by Abraham's side') - still no reference to anyone in heaven seeing people on earth.
And secondly, the story was a parable. Not actual events. Jesus using common imagery to make a point to the Pharasees.
Please don't try and correct others if you don't know the material yourself.
Yes - Hebrews 12:1 states, “Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses...” Some understand the “cloud of witnesses” to be people looking down on us from heaven. That is NOT the correct interpretation, I would hope that a pastor would know that.
Hebrews chapter 11 records many people whom God commended for their faith. It is these people who are the “cloud of witnesses.” That's why the word "THEREFORE" is important. You need to look at what preceeds it when understanding scripture.
The phrase could actually be translated as 'martyrs'. They are “witnesses” not in that they are watching us, but rather in that they have set an example for us. They are witnesses for God and truth. Because of the faith and diligence of Christians who went before us, we should be inspired to follow their example.
The Bible does NOT specifically say whether or not people in heaven can look down on us who are still on the earth. It is highly unlikely that they can. Since there is no grief, tears, or unhappiness in heaven (Revelation 21:4), it does not seem that observing earthly events would be possible. Secondly, people in heaven are so focused on worshipping God and enjoying the glories of heaven that it does not seem they would have significant interest in what is happening here on earth. The very fact that they are free from sin and experiencing God’s presence surely is more than enough to captivate their attention.
While it is certainly POSSIBLE that God allows people in heaven to look down upon their loved ones, the Bible gives us no reason to believe this actually occurs.
Would have been a great event for many of the area's junior golfers to attend. Other than a handful of Country Club regulars, did anyone else even know this event was happening?
Foolish move VicAd. Although I have a Facebook account (my whole family has one) - this is a poorly thought out decision. When you implement the change, I will not be commenting on articles anymore (in fact, some days I can hardly stomach the print edition) - the still-commenting 'refugees' can just wallow in their own ignorance.
Facebook is already in decline, you're supposed to GET OFF sinking ships... #facepalm
Hmmm. Have to agree with VOX on this one. Crossroads Commission on Education was supposed to be addressing PK-12 and college education issues in this area. Other than trying to sneak A&M in the back door by badmouthing UHV, have they come up with ANY constructive ideas? Have they even met anymore - or just crawled under a rock? What about it VicAd - how about a follow up article with Geanie? I'll bet she's "unavailable"...
There was nothing wrong with the Luby's location or marketing. Having been a frequent patron and good friend of managers there, I can tell you that the primary cause of its downfall was problems farther up the corporate structure. The ownership changed, as did the service philosophy - and the 'bosses' alienated the managers, the employees and finally the customers in an effort to squeeze more money out of an established cafeteria. Free-standing Lubys also closed/restructured around the same time.
Fuddruckers was a hit when it opened initially. It was thriving when the owners decided that they could drop the franchise connection, change the name and do just as well. It was a fail. The location was an Italian place briefly, and Halepaskas jumped on the prime location to enable them to move their operations into town.
Cracker Barrel has been fair/good ALL the times I've been there - sorry your ONE experience was not to your taste. I just have to blindfold my wife to get through the gift shop when we leave... (humor font)
"Every chain restaurant's out of town location is far better than the one we have locally." - LOL. That just sounds like a bad attitude about Victoria. Would be amazed at ANY evidence you produce to support that claim...
PF Changs, D&B, TGIFridays, Joes Crab Shack, Saltgrass, Fuddruckers, Quiznos, Blimpies - I like to see a little bit of everything move in.
"Do you know that America was built by immigrants?" Why, YES, Captain Obvious - it WAS. But this is 2012 - don't really need a huge influx of foriegn help to keep us 'building' any more...
"Do you know what is going on in Honduras?" Yes, again. In the news every week. A very bad situation. But the situation THERE doesn't make it okay to break the law HERE.
"...it is not as easy as you guys make it seem to obtain legal documentation..." duh. Need to have a clean criminal record. Helps to have a sponsor or family that can vouch for you. There are forms and waiting periods and a process that is not simple - but very do-able. No, its not easy - we didn't intend for it to be - we don't want the world's trash moving in...
"Are any of you educated?" Funny, I was going to ask you the same thing. Yes - I'd put my college degrees and experience up against yours without hesitation.
Bottom line: sympathy does NOT make being illegal okay.
OK. enuf political correctness... I call BS on "undocumented student".
A&M made the right call on this one. Luis may be a bright and promising young man - BUT - he is an ILLEGAL ALIEN and not entitled to some of the advantages CITIZENS have. Pretty cut and dried. Follow the law, get your papers and we welcome you with open arms - you can embrace the American dream. Come here illegally and ignore the law - get over yourself. Quit whining about not being 'good enough'...
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Yes Raven8 - I DO 'get' it. Do you? is it clealy (sic) written?
Doesn't say people in Hell see people in Heaven - says that the rich man in HADES saw Lazarus in ABRAHAM'S BOSOM. Find someone who can explain Hades, Hell, Sheol, Gehenna, Abraham's Bosom, Paradise and Heaven to you...
Why don't I pick on Muslims? They are not spreading bad information about a book I love.
Jared - Rev 5:8 has nothing to do with this discussion. It describes the scene around the throne in heaven, yes - but your relatives are NOT the elders or the angels described.
I have no doubt that when the Son of God shouted "Lazarus, come back!" that he heard him clearly - wherever he was. But to infer that Lazarus could have been watching and listening to the conversations of others just prior to that - great imagination - no Biblical basis.
And finally, I will respectfully disagree with your Cathloic doctrine and say that I believe that prayers are for God - ONLY. We can intercede for others still living while we're here on earth - but prayers FOR the dead and prayers TO the dead are a waste of breath. We need to make up our minds what to do with Jesus BEFORE we die...
Just for the record - I didn't say that people in heaven COULD NOT see events on earth - I said that there is nothing in the Bible that confirms that this might be the case, and it seems unlikely.
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huh?
1. Nothing here mentioned overcharging. The most common billing error happens when the city can't read your meter for some reason and estimates the usage. Eventually, an actual reading is taken and the account is adjusted. Meters that are more efficient don't mean that you've been overcharged already. Statistics show that most public utility billing undercharges around 10% per year.
2. The meters don't change water rates. They simply record usage. Yes, more accurately and more detail than before - but just usage. If the city ever decides to implement variable water rates based on time, amounts, etc. - you can bet there will be a full house at the council meeting. This comment is just crying wolf...
3. Don't know the answer for the exact model being installed, but most meters now have batteries that last 5-20 years AND there are some units that don't require batteries at all. Good question tho.
It would be nice to have more public information on this project. Are we just implementing wireless meters that require city employees to drive around to collect the data, or are we moving to a complete wireless system where the data is collected wirelessly through an established network? If not the latter, why not?
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tsk. tsk yourself. Couple of points:
I can't find anyone named 'Lazardus' in the Bible. In the story of LAZARUS and the rich man, it says that the rich man in Hades could see Lazarus in 'Abraham's Bosom' (or 'by Abraham's side') - still no reference to anyone in heaven seeing people on earth.
And secondly, the story was a parable. Not actual events. Jesus using common imagery to make a point to the Pharasees.
Please don't try and correct others if you don't know the material yourself.
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Well, I'll try to be short and kind here.
Yes - Hebrews 12:1 states, “Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses...” Some understand the “cloud of witnesses” to be people looking down on us from heaven. That is NOT the correct interpretation, I would hope that a pastor would know that.
Hebrews chapter 11 records many people whom God commended for their faith. It is these people who are the “cloud of witnesses.” That's why the word "THEREFORE" is important. You need to look at what preceeds it when understanding scripture.
The phrase could actually be translated as 'martyrs'. They are “witnesses” not in that they are watching us, but rather in that they have set an example for us. They are witnesses for God and truth. Because of the faith and diligence of Christians who went before us, we should be inspired to follow their example.
The Bible does NOT specifically say whether or not people in heaven can look down on us who are still on the earth. It is highly unlikely that they can. Since there is no grief, tears, or unhappiness in heaven (Revelation 21:4), it does not seem that observing earthly events would be possible. Secondly, people in heaven are so focused on worshipping God and enjoying the glories of heaven that it does not seem they would have significant interest in what is happening here on earth. The very fact that they are free from sin and experiencing God’s presence surely is more than enough to captivate their attention.
While it is certainly POSSIBLE that God allows people in heaven to look down upon their loved ones, the Bible gives us no reason to believe this actually occurs.
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Would have been a great event for many of the area's junior golfers to attend. Other than a handful of Country Club regulars, did anyone else even know this event was happening?
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Foolish move VicAd. Although I have a Facebook account (my whole family has one) - this is a poorly thought out decision. When you implement the change, I will not be commenting on articles anymore (in fact, some days I can hardly stomach the print edition) - the still-commenting 'refugees' can just wallow in their own ignorance.
Facebook is already in decline, you're supposed to GET OFF sinking ships... #facepalm
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Hmmm. Have to agree with VOX on this one. Crossroads Commission on Education was supposed to be addressing PK-12 and college education issues in this area. Other than trying to sneak A&M in the back door by badmouthing UHV, have they come up with ANY constructive ideas? Have they even met anymore - or just crawled under a rock? What about it VicAd - how about a follow up article with Geanie? I'll bet she's "unavailable"...
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Wow, Explorer1456 - I disagree on all points.
There was nothing wrong with the Luby's location or marketing. Having been a frequent patron and good friend of managers there, I can tell you that the primary cause of its downfall was problems farther up the corporate structure. The ownership changed, as did the service philosophy - and the 'bosses' alienated the managers, the employees and finally the customers in an effort to squeeze more money out of an established cafeteria. Free-standing Lubys also closed/restructured around the same time.
Fuddruckers was a hit when it opened initially. It was thriving when the owners decided that they could drop the franchise connection, change the name and do just as well. It was a fail. The location was an Italian place briefly, and Halepaskas jumped on the prime location to enable them to move their operations into town.
Cracker Barrel has been fair/good ALL the times I've been there - sorry your ONE experience was not to your taste. I just have to blindfold my wife to get through the gift shop when we leave... (humor font)
"Every chain restaurant's out of town location is far better than the one we have locally." - LOL. That just sounds like a bad attitude about Victoria. Would be amazed at ANY evidence you produce to support that claim...
PF Changs, D&B, TGIFridays, Joes Crab Shack, Saltgrass, Fuddruckers, Quiznos, Blimpies - I like to see a little bit of everything move in.
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LOL @ Nflores.
"Do you know that America was built by immigrants?" Why, YES, Captain Obvious - it WAS. But this is 2012 - don't really need a huge influx of foriegn help to keep us 'building' any more...
"Do you know what is going on in Honduras?" Yes, again. In the news every week. A very bad situation. But the situation THERE doesn't make it okay to break the law HERE.
"...it is not as easy as you guys make it seem to obtain legal documentation..." duh. Need to have a clean criminal record. Helps to have a sponsor or family that can vouch for you. There are forms and waiting periods and a process that is not simple - but very do-able. No, its not easy - we didn't intend for it to be - we don't want the world's trash moving in...
"Are any of you educated?" Funny, I was going to ask you the same thing. Yes - I'd put my college degrees and experience up against yours without hesitation.
Bottom line: sympathy does NOT make being illegal okay.
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OK. enuf political correctness... I call BS on "undocumented student".
A&M made the right call on this one. Luis may be a bright and promising young man - BUT - he is an ILLEGAL ALIEN and not entitled to some of the advantages CITIZENS have. Pretty cut and dried. Follow the law, get your papers and we welcome you with open arms - you can embrace the American dream. Come here illegally and ignore the law - get over yourself. Quit whining about not being 'good enough'...
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