Carpenter- I can not speak for MW but I would imagine that they were speaking about a few individuals not the entire police force...
I would hope anyhow.
I have had bad run ins with both VPD and VCSO but I am not putting down either department as a whole...
When you have a large group of people, there are always going to be a few bad apples in the bunch.
That usually makes people form opinions about the entire force, which is unfortunate, but the actions of a few effect many.
And what makes matters worse is when you actually get to experience this first hand and by "higher ranking" officers....because then the officers that rank under them think they can get away with acting just like them, that it's "OK" to try and hide behind the badge.
And that is wrong on so many levels. It basicly perpetuates more wrong doing, and these departments have to work even harder to maintain respect once these stories get out to the public.
Notice I say once they get out to the public....the last incident I was involved in was swept under the table, I went down and filed a complaint and have never been contacted. The form is so generic you fill out for a complaint, name ,address, telephone number. No where does it ask for the officers' name or reason for complaint.
I have the potential to face FELONY charges for defending myself against a higher ranking officer for the pure fact they are a public servant.
How sad is that?
So..do I make a stink about it and hold him accountable, and face Federal Pen time for being in the right, or do I do like everyone else and be afraid of that fact and keep my mouth shut and enjoy what freedom I have while this same stuff gets to continue happening to someone else?
Even though our departments in general are some of the best around....remember this one awful FACT...
They protect their own!
So to those officers that witness the wrong doing and have not been swayed in your values and morals about right and wrong and still do your jobs with courtesy and respect to the best of your abilities....
My hat goes off to you...and thank you for remaining upstanding individuals of the community you swore to protect and serve.
wasn't pick'n, just tease'n a little..lol....but see there you admit it...it's the little ones you have to watch..lol...I have known of many small child bites from those small dogs, me included(rat terrier)but I'm not bias against them. My boxer dislikes weenie dogs, dont know why, but she cant stand them...can get along with a cat,so go figure that one.
and yeah..lets evaluate the theft level on the "south side" of town where all these evil dogs are...v.s. north side where most all thefts are and where ADT and Triple D and VCS along with other security systems are.....those just let you know you stuff is gone and your house is wrecked, your dogs make sure things stay put. so I guess having a high fear level applied to them isn't "really" a bad thing....just gives them a bad rep on how they got it.
education is the key to everything though.
ok, time for lunch! have a great day everyone!
I'm sorry, I cant resist that statment from:
Redneckgirl----->"they can be trained easier"
is that why it costs over 40thousand ($40,000+) to train a police dog?
hahah...just say'n.
side note...when you mix and match statistics it really looses it's value as creditable evidence.
but I understand the point you are trying to make, now if people wouldnt feel so ashamed about reporting these tiny dog attacks we could work with real numbers....
and Twisted, one for you too.....
ADT wont keep your T.V. where you left it!
My dogs are on duty 24/7 and they work for food! Also...ADT wont stop an attacker inside your home, but they will make the phone call for the cops to come tag your toe and haul you away.
You stick with ADT, I'll hang with my dawgs! RUFF RUFF partn'a
Take'n a bit out of crime one mouth full at a time!
Ok, I'm done with this, Mr.Adams is a good human being, he has served this country, and has been respectful to many here.
Just because he didn't fight in the current war shouldn't make his sacrifices any less worthy than any other soldier's.
He did his duty and this is his thanks?
just remember folks...Karma <--- it's real.
anonymoustroublemaker <-- you deserve a high five for your statement! you couldn't be more right.
Mr.Adams....you can bum a smoke from me anytime- this whole quitting thing isnt working for me anyhow..haha!
Get well soon!
Despite all the ignorance on this thread, you do have friends here. Don't let negativity bother you a bit!
Twisted---I have been violent toward "officers" in this town...especially when they act like bully's and don't stay with in the law them selfs ....
I am no bodies chump...and just because you wear a badge does not give you super powers and nor should you belive your self to be a God.
Approach me with violent intent and you will be met with the same.
And if you are the type of person to let everyone run you over just because they "THINK" they can...well, poor you.
You don't know the details, unless you are one of those officers, or if you have gone to the Police station and PAID for copies of the reports.
Shouldn't blab word of mouth.
Maybe he had a reason to be upset, maybe he didn't....but to MANY MANY others in this town--as well as many law enforcement officers...he has been polite and respectful.
Go ask a cop! or better yet, put your money where your mouth is and buy the reports and post them. That could be interesting.
Untill then....thumbs down to you my friend.
money, property....these are "things" people....what you own or how much money you have shouldn't be the basis of self worth...
a person is defined by his actions, not by possessions!
Mr.Adams is a nice person. Where he lays his head every night should not be the basis of his value as a decent human being !
Winning the lotto shouldn't make us form an opinion of him ( other than, lucky him-wish I could! )
We should all take a lesson from Mr.Adams. We should also take lessons from our neighbors here in Victoria and how their attitudes about other humans are. Scary I share the same town with some of you.
Just what is human value to you?
The house you live in but dont own, you borrowed money for and it's called mortage.
or the car you dont own, that you are paying off cause you couldn't afford to buy it outright?
or how about the clothes you wear, sport'n some name brands?
any of you with student loans? guess you couldnt afford school either then...wow,I guess this makes you all pretty worthless if this is the case...huh,guess you are no better than anyone else then if you cant afford to live in million dollar homes and drive $80thousand dollar cars....
where are your priorities at?
Mr.Adams makes due with what he has, and he seems to always be in good spirits.
Read and take note to how many people comment GOOD things about Mr.Adams.
these are people who know him and have met him.
everyone else has just "seen him around" and want to feel special to make rude remarks about him.
It's appalling how grown adults can act like spoilt little children at times.
I bet none of you would have the nerve to say these things to Mr.Adams personally...
And if you did, then a majority of us would stand with him and run you outta this town.
Give this man the same respect he would show you.
and he's not always "just" wanting a cigg, a polite conversation will make his day just as it will yours.
keep that in mind.
Not true Twisted...Animal Control does the best job they can...they lack personnel to cover the entire Victoria area.....maybe you should go apply. Just a thought. And it sickens me that you have such an attitude, stories were run on both these issues, we the people are the ones, not the advocate placing the comments here. And this is an article about Mr.Adams. so that should be case closed with the issue.
Have some respect, is all I'm saying. If you would like to comment and place your condolences with the Green family, then please do.
thank you JR74.....gotta make one more quick blab...
If you do not have first hand knowledge of taking care or owning any of these breeds you have such high opinions of...you really have no room to talk.
Thats about as valid as me saying that a lamborghini is the worst and slowest car in the world.....
oh and I'm sorry,but since we are still on teh bash a pit issue....Mike Vic ring a bell? his dogs were trained to fight, now they are rehab dogs and visit hospitals and things of the such....havent heard anything bad about any of those dogs since they were rescued.....
justamom..thank you for being one to pay attention that Pepper also served our great country, and yes,not negating the fact that we did have a local boy perish as well serving his country, and yes everyone, our prayers do go out to him and his family, so lets not continue to make this an issue when this is article is about Mr.Adams. Did y'all mother never teach you if you didnt have anything nice to say to keep your mouth shut? just a question, seems morals got lost somewhere down the line....
Redneckgirl....my I inquire on where you got this numbers from....I can play statistics all day long...it's all in how many reports and how many they collected to make these numbers.
I own pits, I own boxers...I have owned Rotties Arkansas Giants, Great Danes, and Dobs....
my pits are big babys, my boxers are so loving it's out of this world, the Giant was a foot warmer, the rottie was a 185pound lap dog that was dumb as a brick but sweet as the sun is bright...the two worse ones were the dob and the great dane...the dane was shifty and unpredictable after about 3 years and the dobs tend to go crazy after about 6years....but thats just been the ones I've had...My aunt has had decent luck with those breeds.
Also, If Shepherds are ranked number 3, then WHY ON EARTH DO POLICE USE THESE HIGHLY TRAINED DOGS ???
You need to stop looking at the breeds and start looking at the OWNERS !!!!
wanna know dogs with bad attitudes?
poodles- chiuauas - rat terriers - spits....most of your SMALLER BREEDS that tend to think they are big ol' monster dogs...
how many children have you had to stitch up cause some old ladies chiuaua went shred happy on their hands and legs?
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Carpenter- I can not speak for MW but I would imagine that they were speaking about a few individuals not the entire police force...
I would hope anyhow.
I have had bad run ins with both VPD and VCSO but I am not putting down either department as a whole...
When you have a large group of people, there are always going to be a few bad apples in the bunch.
That usually makes people form opinions about the entire force, which is unfortunate, but the actions of a few effect many.
And what makes matters worse is when you actually get to experience this first hand and by "higher ranking" officers....because then the officers that rank under them think they can get away with acting just like them, that it's "OK" to try and hide behind the badge.
And that is wrong on so many levels. It basicly perpetuates more wrong doing, and these departments have to work even harder to maintain respect once these stories get out to the public.
Notice I say once they get out to the public....the last incident I was involved in was swept under the table, I went down and filed a complaint and have never been contacted. The form is so generic you fill out for a complaint, name ,address, telephone number. No where does it ask for the officers' name or reason for complaint.
I have the potential to face FELONY charges for defending myself against a higher ranking officer for the pure fact they are a public servant.
How sad is that?
So..do I make a stink about it and hold him accountable, and face Federal Pen time for being in the right, or do I do like everyone else and be afraid of that fact and keep my mouth shut and enjoy what freedom I have while this same stuff gets to continue happening to someone else?
Even though our departments in general are some of the best around....remember this one awful FACT...
They protect their own!
So to those officers that witness the wrong doing and have not been swayed in your values and morals about right and wrong and still do your jobs with courtesy and respect to the best of your abilities....
My hat goes off to you...and thank you for remaining upstanding individuals of the community you swore to protect and serve.
wasn't pick'n, just tease'n a little..lol....but see there you admit it...it's the little ones you have to watch..lol...I have known of many small child bites from those small dogs, me included(rat terrier)but I'm not bias against them. My boxer dislikes weenie dogs, dont know why, but she cant stand them...can get along with a cat,so go figure that one.
and yeah..lets evaluate the theft level on the "south side" of town where all these evil dogs are...v.s. north side where most all thefts are and where ADT and Triple D and VCS along with other security systems are.....those just let you know you stuff is gone and your house is wrecked, your dogs make sure things stay put. so I guess having a high fear level applied to them isn't "really" a bad thing....just gives them a bad rep on how they got it.
education is the key to everything though.
ok, time for lunch! have a great day everyone!
I'm sorry, I cant resist that statment from:
Redneckgirl----->"they can be trained easier"
is that why it costs over 40thousand ($40,000+) to train a police dog?
hahah...just say'n.
side note...when you mix and match statistics it really looses it's value as creditable evidence.
but I understand the point you are trying to make, now if people wouldnt feel so ashamed about reporting these tiny dog attacks we could work with real numbers....
and Twisted, one for you too.....
ADT wont keep your T.V. where you left it!
My dogs are on duty 24/7 and they work for food!
Also...ADT wont stop an attacker inside your home, but they will make the phone call for the cops to come tag your toe and haul you away.
You stick with ADT, I'll hang with my dawgs! RUFF RUFF partn'a
Take'n a bit out of crime one mouth full at a time!
Ok, I'm done with this, Mr.Adams is a good human being, he has served this country, and has been respectful to many here.
Just because he didn't fight in the current war shouldn't make his sacrifices any less worthy than any other soldier's.
He did his duty and this is his thanks?
just remember folks...Karma <--- it's real.
anonymoustroublemaker <-- you deserve a high five for your statement! you couldn't be more right.
Mr.Adams....you can bum a smoke from me anytime- this whole quitting thing isnt working for me anyhow..haha!
Get well soon!
Despite all the ignorance on this thread, you do have friends here. Don't let negativity bother you a bit!
Twisted---I have been violent toward "officers" in this town...especially when they act like bully's and don't stay with in the law them selfs ....
I am no bodies chump...and just because you wear a badge does not give you super powers and nor should you belive your self to be a God.
Approach me with violent intent and you will be met with the same.
And if you are the type of person to let everyone run you over just because they "THINK" they can...well, poor you.
You don't know the details, unless you are one of those officers, or if you have gone to the Police station and PAID for copies of the reports.
Shouldn't blab word of mouth.
Maybe he had a reason to be upset, maybe he didn't....but to MANY MANY others in this town--as well as many law enforcement officers...he has been polite and respectful.
Go ask a cop! or better yet, put your money where your mouth is and buy the reports and post them. That could be interesting.
Untill then....thumbs down to you my friend.
money, property....these are "things" people....what you own or how much money you have shouldn't be the basis of self worth...
a person is defined by his actions, not by possessions!
Mr.Adams is a nice person. Where he lays his head every night should not be the basis of his value as a decent human being !
Winning the lotto shouldn't make us form an opinion of him ( other than, lucky him-wish I could! )
We should all take a lesson from Mr.Adams.
We should also take lessons from our neighbors here in Victoria and how their attitudes about other humans are. Scary I share the same town with some of you.
Just what is human value to you?
The house you live in but dont own, you borrowed money for and it's called mortage.
or the car you dont own, that you are paying off cause you couldn't afford to buy it outright?
or how about the clothes you wear, sport'n some name brands?
any of you with student loans? guess you couldnt afford school either then...wow,I guess this makes you all pretty worthless if this is the case...huh,guess you are no better than anyone else then if you cant afford to live in million dollar homes and drive $80thousand dollar cars....
where are your priorities at?
Mr.Adams makes due with what he has, and he seems to always be in good spirits.
Read and take note to how many people comment GOOD things about Mr.Adams.
these are people who know him and have met him.
everyone else has just "seen him around" and want to feel special to make rude remarks about him.
It's appalling how grown adults can act like spoilt little children at times.
I bet none of you would have the nerve to say these things to Mr.Adams personally...
And if you did, then a majority of us would stand with him and run you outta this town.
Give this man the same respect he would show you.
and he's not always "just" wanting a cigg, a polite conversation will make his day just as it will yours.
keep that in mind.
Not true Twisted...Animal Control does the best job they can...they lack personnel to cover the entire Victoria area.....maybe you should go apply. Just a thought. And it sickens me that you have such an attitude, stories were run on both these issues, we the people are the ones, not the advocate placing the comments here. And this is an article about Mr.Adams. so that should be case closed with the issue.
Have some respect, is all I'm saying. If you would like to comment and place your condolences with the Green family, then please do.
here is the link to the page.
http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/news/...
thank you JR74.....gotta make one more quick blab...
If you do not have first hand knowledge of taking care or owning any of these breeds you have such high opinions of...you really have no room to talk.
Thats about as valid as me saying that a lamborghini is the worst and slowest car in the world.....
oh and I'm sorry,but since we are still on teh bash a pit issue....Mike Vic ring a bell? his dogs were trained to fight, now they are rehab dogs and visit hospitals and things of the such....havent heard anything bad about any of those dogs since they were rescued.....
justamom..thank you for being one to pay attention that Pepper also served our great country, and yes,not negating the fact that we did have a local boy perish as well serving his country, and yes everyone, our prayers do go out to him and his family, so lets not continue to make this an issue when this is article is about Mr.Adams. Did y'all mother never teach you if you didnt have anything nice to say to keep your mouth shut? just a question, seems morals got lost somewhere down the line....
Redneckgirl....my I inquire on where you got this numbers from....I can play statistics all day long...it's all in how many reports and how many they collected to make these numbers.
I own pits, I own boxers...I have owned Rotties Arkansas Giants, Great Danes, and Dobs....
my pits are big babys, my boxers are so loving it's out of this world, the Giant was a foot warmer, the rottie was a 185pound lap dog that was dumb as a brick but sweet as the sun is bright...the two worse ones were the dob and the great dane...the dane was shifty and unpredictable after about 3 years and the dobs tend to go crazy after about 6years....but thats just been the ones I've had...My aunt has had decent luck with those breeds.
Also, If Shepherds are ranked number 3, then WHY ON EARTH DO POLICE USE THESE HIGHLY TRAINED DOGS ???
You need to stop looking at the breeds and start looking at the OWNERS !!!!
wanna know dogs with bad attitudes?
poodles- chiuauas - rat terriers - spits....most of your SMALLER BREEDS that tend to think they are big ol' monster dogs...
how many children have you had to stitch up cause some old ladies chiuaua went shred happy on their hands and legs?
ok, back to the question...source of info?