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Mike, and Cattleman, I disagree with you gentlemen, it’s not about hiding anything form law enforcement. It’s about a key element “principle,” and without principle we’re in trouble. Laws are created by men and women so therefore there will always be room for argument. It is our job as citizens to question those writers when it comes down to our civil liberties.
Mike, the AZ law is something totally different. It is a random stop based on a violation in order to further an investigation as to alienage of a person or persons. And I support that law. I do not support driver license check points, because it is creating an inconvenience to me because I am complying with the law. They are blocking my passage without any reasonable suspicion or probable cause (NO VIOLATION), I am very pro-law enforcement. Like you, I’ve been driving a long time as well without any infractions on my record. Like I said there is a basket full of reasons why, but those reasons do not outweigh principle.
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Mike,It’s not about being paranoid, but there are restrictions, its information overload, too many laws, rules, and regulation. I will give one example to try and make a point.Driver’s license check point…when you encounter a check point, you are no longer a random individual driving down the street; you are being detained (free from movement) without reasonable suspicion, and or probable cause, you cannot back up or go around this check point, if you attempt to do that, you will be by definition in violation of law. This is a fourth amendment Constitutional issue, which is overreaching by local, state, and federal authorities. So now tell me if you have been restricted from movement, when your intent was to conduct normal business of the day after leaving the humble castle for which you live. You did not volunteer to make a decision to submit to a driver license check point. One can give a basket full of reasons why they do it, but is it legal, and is it overreaching of Government?
This whole phenomenon that conservatives are anti-government is totally bogus. Government is a necessary Evil. We may have been born free, but we have a heck of a heavy chain rapped around our necks when we depart the castles for which we live. Now, we have to an onboard computer to take a vacation or just go to the dang store so that we do not violate any rules, regulations or laws.
Our present day school system (SUCKS), they’re no longer institutions of higher learning, it’s like going to the Mall on a Saturday afternoon to find nothing but zombies of social media. From the ridiculous clothing they wear to the Cell phones stuck in their ears, if they would spend as much time on education as they do texting, the opportunities in life would become much easier and perhaps maybe they wouldn’t be so dependent on Government support.
On (wild) Bill Clinton, his first two years he ran as a man championing the middle class values, but he violated that pledge when he was seen as making the issue of gays in the military his first priority in office. Surely you remember that, and he had a problem with feminist you know the “bean counters,” so do you recall that? That is why I’m saying Obama has a problem over the gay issue. I just don’t think we’ve made it quite that far yet.
Contemporary liberal, let me try this. The contemporary liberal approach is that it amounts to middle class welfare. Maybe not a good choice of words, but it seems to fit for this day and time.
I had read the book “The Affluent Society” 25 or 30 years ago, but I certainly have a better understanding on its take and the publisher John Kenneth Galbraith, after a re-read. Another book which was very interesting is “The Theory of Moral Sentiments” by Adam Smith. Those books along with others have certainly given me a much better approach at trying to understand the contemporary liberal.
BTW, I think Obama has lost the middle class over the Gay issue. It sure did hurt Wild Bill until he moved to the center. And I don’t think Obama really knows where the middle class is at this juncture.
You can coin the phrase, conservatives as being anti-government, but why is it the liberals are so anti-business? And why is it they champion social justice? After all social justice is a key component of the entire liberal agenda. Why do liberals declare (War) on everything they disagree with? Liberalism was re-invented after World War II, because America went back to work they were buying, building homes, good jobs, and prosperity was on the horizon, that did not fit well with democrats, because they were losing the edge on liberalism. Heck you guys floated social justice across the pond from Europe. Even back in the 1800’s democrats didn’t like the fact that Americans were producers, and not living in the inner cities, but liberals are really not into history, because it paints a much bigger picture then they are willing to admit too. Now that is just a plan fact no fiction there.
EPA, one of the most destructive government agencies, not only is it a job killer, it also slows economic growth, now that is a fact. “Obama, you can build a new coal plant, but we will bankrupt you.”
IRS… is a necessary Evil. But there has to be a better way.
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Believe as you may, but 1-5 those statements are incorrect although #5 does have some truth, (Unions) have out served their usefulness. Truly sounds as if 1-4 came right out of the liberal agenda play book, you know when you turn the page. Then there are those contradictions of words, you know give us more and we will have a “more” efficient government. However I am curious about that word (label), liberals normally avoid using that word. I would say, with all of the contradictions… yes liberals do believe in bigger government.
In 1928, then New York governor Al Smith famously said, “All the ills of democracy can be cured by more democracy.” So what does that say about liberals? Liberals are for Big Government that is a true statement… It is the liberal social theme (Goodness) bigger government, more Goodness will prevail.
when was the last time you “I do mean you” ever disagreed with anything Mike or Vet has ever stated? If you can find it please post it… LOL!