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WOW!!! I do believe elephants are the most amazing of creatures, but this goes far beyond amazing. Thank you Rusty for posting this..
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SpeakTheTruth...I'm guessin' you were referring to me even though you kept mentioning yourself. I agree that good teachers are needed over poor ones. I also know that teachers are like employees everywhere -- some are going to be better than others. BUT I also know that even the best teacher cannot MAKE a kid learn if he doesn't want to. The teacher cannot make him do homework or research for a term paper. The parents MUST take responsibility. You said that children of drug dealers go to St. Jo and excell. Gee, do you think that maybe the reason they do well is that regardless of the source of daddy's income, he doesn't want junior wasting the tuition money and he insists that the school work gets done? You're placing too much blame on the backs of the teachers. They can only work with what they have in the classroom. If the kids show up but are disruptive, everyone suffers. This is very unfair to the kids who want to learn but must fight their way through the muck of those who just don't care. If you really want the good students to excell, move out the dregs -- yeah, Vet, there's that word again.
The super and the principals and the teachers have the knowledge and will gladly impart it to the kids IF the kids come to school WANTING to learn. THAT is the purview of the parent(s). If the kid doesn't see a family setting that encourages him/her to thirst for something better, it will only happen in very rare instances. If dad is a gang banger/thug/junkie and is around only when mom's welfare check comes in and mom is a junkie/hooker who perhaps doesn't KNOW who the dad is, there is little hope that the kid will go to school and tell the teacher, "Teach me. I WANT to learn. I want to escape my environment."
Are there exceptions? Of course, but they remain the exception and not the rule. The family is most important in molding the child to accept the knowledge the teacher wants to impart. It is NOT the job of the teacher or principal to raise the kids. THAT is the responsibility of the parents. If they can't or won't then the kid is left behind. We end up reading about them in the newspaper when they do something horrible and we wonder why. The answer is people who had NO business having kids had them anyway. It is a cycle that has been repeating itself for decades and it's getting worse. Some say our children are our future. That's not quite correct. SOME of our children or our future. Many of the kids who are causing problems in the schools today will be causing overcrowding in our prisons tomorrow.
Vet...Mark you calendar. I agree with your post completely. I especially liked the "Lord of the Flies" comment.
Flapjack...Perhaps the kids you mentioned who scored at the top of the list have parents who care what they are doing, who they are doing it with and who make sure the kids study for and behave in school. Religion has NOTHING to do with that.
MIKE!!! You're retired. You were up before seven? Is that what I have to look forward to? Geeze, I was hoping to sleep in til about the crack of nine and THEN get up and have breakfast. Of course, I plan to still be up between one and two in the AM. I'm sort of a night owl. But before seven! But then, I've always preferred second shift.
Twenty-five grand to move from San Antonio? Good grief! It probably wouldn't cost that much to ship his stuff with Fed Ex. Your tax dollars at work. Sigh.
Wait a minute...Graff is SELLING his picture through the Advocate forum? Is he THAT hard up for money? Isn't that kind of smarmy?
I went through public school in the 50's and 60's and in all that time I never saw the commandments posted and we never had prayer -- except before a football game. We recited the Pledge of Allegience every morning through the nineth grade. I DO remember when the Pledge of Allegience was changed to add "under God". It took a while to get used to it. On Friday afternoons in Junior High, we had a retreat ceremony at the flag pole.
But, I found out in the seventh grade that as long as there is algebra in school, there WILL be prayer in school. Oh, one other thing we never had in school was a day care center. If a girl got "in trouble" she had to quit school as soon as the baby bump was big enough to be noticed. The guy usually quit and got a job. They absolutely got married and they usually lived with one set of parents or the other. It was accepted that if you got a girl pregnant, BOTH your lives were ruined. We tried very hard to not have that happen. Some changes are NOT progress.
Writein...You hit the problem on the head when you wrote: "Conditions like gangs, crime, and your tax dollars. It is bad for a man. a young man, to seek or wanting to be married, when Half of the female population are breeding like rats. It is bad for a woman to have kids and raise them when daddy is having another batch across town."
These problems are social -- cultural, if you will -- and they won't be solved by putting people into jail for having babies.
Cut off their funds. Make the women tell their boyfriends NO to avoid getting pregnant. If the women understand that there will not be any additional funds, maybe they'll stop having so many kids. The change has to start in the families. Two parent families teaching their children to value their bodies and to only have children AFTER they are married and have jobs that will support the raising of children. Parents must teach their children that drugs and the street life are one-way streets to destruction. Families must work together to make sure kids understand that an education is essential for a successful life. I don't know HOW this change will take place, but I do know that it must. If it doesn't, i fear our society is doomed.