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  • Why are a few people in the government, not all, but some, so scared of calling this tragic event a terrorist attack. It is what it is. It was a terrorist attack, by a terrorist who chose to kill Americans rather than going to war to defend this great nation. Call it what it is. Now they have uncovered that he possibly has ties to Al Queda. Give me a break. Please start calling this a terrorist attack because that is exactly what it is.

    I agree 100% JD with your comments.

    November 9, 2009 at 9:02 a.m.

  • I read it after I posted it & I read that too....didn't clarify it, as further pointed out, it is a valid comparison.

    November 7, 2009 at 11:14 p.m.

  • VBB...Yikes! Until you mentioned the military court, I thought you were calling J a terrorist.

    November 7, 2009 at 11:04 p.m.

  • WWW....J is gone, very quiet around here these days.

    The guy is a terrorist...wish they would've taken him completely out, then we wouldn't have to worry about him being turned loose in this lifetime. Good thing he will be tried by the military though.

    November 7, 2009 at 9:58 p.m.

  • This is what is to come with Obama. The freedom of speech police out and patrolling and limiting what US citizens have to say. As long as you agree with Obama and the liberal media supporting him and his stance, the media will be there for you but just try and give a dissenting opinion, or disagree, and you will get "This comment was removed by the site staff for violation of the usage agreement.

    This shooting was absolutely terrorism as evidenced by Hassan's rantings of Alluha Akbar as he killed American citizens. Obama will make light of it though and stay away from the word terrorism so as not to offend Muslims.

    It has been reported that George and Laura Bush visited Fort Hood yesterday. Where is Hussein Obama?

    November 7, 2009 at 7:42 p.m.

  • PatientEarth...I think it's kinda disingenuous of the Advocate to go around deleting posts. They own the forum, sure, but they created it for their readers to use to express their opinions about almost any topic one can imagine. To then delete opinions is, in my view, sort of cowardly. The people who use this forum are adults and shouldn't be so thin skinned as to get their feelings hurt if someone says something to which they object. Evidently, some are banned completely. I was gone on vacation for a couple weeks and, since my return, I haven't seen a single post from a guy who could make the Pope cuss. I can't imagine that he would not have had at least one opinion about the shootings in Fort Hood, especially since he seemed to go out of his way to defend muslims. I don't know if he was banned or, perhaps he's on vacation like I was. Even though he said several times that he hated me -- and others -- I miss his posts. I hope he wasn't banned.

    November 7, 2009 at 5:43 p.m.

  • Jones...You make me want to cuss and the Advocate won't allow that.

    I'm not trying to have it both ways. I said that non-American muslims from OTHER countries who apply for entry visas to the United States should be denied. I also said that non-American muslims who are here on visa should be located and sent back home. That's what I said about non-American muslims.

    I said that American citizens who are muslim have Constitutional protections and I would not violate that. I then said, perhaps using your famous "but", that regardless of the fact that American citizens who are muslim have Constitutional protections, I still don't trust them. I didn't call them terrorists, although I will admit that I believe many if not most to be sympathetic to jihad. To answer your question specifically, I don't think there is much of anything that can be done to prevent American citizens from committing atrocities. It is, after all, politically incorrect to profile people, isn't it? Citizens have the right to own firearms. A soldier certainly has access to firearms. If someone decides that allah has spoken to him and said go kill a bunch of people and does it, about the only thing that you can hope for is that somebody kills him before his toll gets very high. This is one of the reasons I believe so strongly in citizens having the right to carry guns with them. One never knows when he might be able to stop a criminal in the act before the cops can show up. Remember the Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen? If only ONE customer had been carrying, the murderer might have been stopped before his passed four or five. But then, George Henard was just a criminal, not a religious terrorist.

    November 7, 2009 at 5:31 p.m.

  • It would not hurt my feelings if I get removed. Obviously the VicAd editorial staff likes to edit. Their right, but why would this newspaper follow the NY Times lead and not call it the way it is. This is why this is a posting forum. WE, citizens call it as WE see it. I call it terrorism, someone else might call it something else, but if the person quacks like a duck, walks like a duck and by golly, acts like a duck, lets call him a duck. Maj Hasan acted like a terrorist, lets call him a terrorist. Our Armed Forces had been infiltrated, remember the soldier that was assigned to the Special Forces Command in Ft Bragg that ended up helping terrorist forces overseas? What about the sergeant that killed most of his company chain of command by throwing a grenade in their tent? He thought that we shouldnt had not been in Iraq and although this happened in Kuwait (just in case someone wants to point that out)he felt that he needed to stop us from killing fellow Muslims. We known that local extremist groups done the same. This is not about a particular race but for goodness sake, let's call it what it is, a terrorist attack.

    November 7, 2009 at 4:30 p.m.

  • I remove my own posting, can not deal with small town mentality. That is what happens when you get your journalism for Victoria College. I mean, someone is advocating forming militias and that is ok? Militias, means arming people to defend themselves to protect what they think needs protecting? But yet, I try to counter VISDMOM simple-minded attitude (her words) but using an analogy to compare hers and I get taken out twice? Sometimes, we need to throw water in people's faces to wake them up and America needs a wake up call.

    November 7, 2009 at 4 p.m.

  • Jones...I was making a distinction between American citizens who happen to be muslim and the ones from predominately muslim countries. Those are the ones I don't think should be allowed into the country and are the ones who I think should be sent home if already here. That being said, I still don't trust muslims of the American citizen variety. There is no Costitutional requirement that one citizen trust another regardless of First Amendment considerations.

    "Maybe you should re-aquaint yourself with Executive Order 9066."

    Yeah, yeah. But THAT executive order had to do with the internment of AMERICAN CITIZENS of Japanese descent. I'm saying that citizens of countries that are predominately muslim -- Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Lybia, etc, -- should not be granted entry visas. Those people have no Constitutional right to come here. Whether they are coming to visit relatives, to study, to get a job or to settle in as sleeper agents, they can do all that either at home or in another country which is willing to allow them in. I also said that the citizens of those muslim countries who are already here should be located and returned home -- a kinder and gentler way to deal with them than that used by President Roosevelt. Mind you, I don't expect anything like this to happen with the current administration in office. Too many muslim sympathies there.

    Whether Hasan is a formal member of al-queda acting as a sleeper agent or simply an individual who decided to become a terrorist because allah told him to, the results are the same. Thirteen innocent people are dead and HE did it.

    November 7, 2009 at 10:13 a.m.

  • walking timebombs, sleepers, or time release capsules...just a few to describe each

    keep playing with fire

    doubting in disbelief

    where there is smoke there is fire

    To little to late

    The time has come to understand who is responsible...less we forget 9/11

    Know your enemy to defeat them...

    Where is the Nation of Islam crying for this man doing the act???

    As a thought silent again until they are fronted

    November 7, 2009 at 5:13 a.m.

  • dollysdad...THIS time, I agree with you completely about Hasan's soul.

    Jones..."VISDMom is right when she talks that about a lot of evil has been 'done in God's name' on behalf of Christianity. She has her points"

    I never said evil hasn't been done in the name of christianity. I recognize that it has -- centuries ago, regarding the crusades which is what has islam poppa oscared. They're still holding grudges after 500 years even though, for the most part the christian crusaders generally got their collective butts kicked.

    I also recognize that not ALL muslims are of the evil variety. I don't support for one minute violating American citizen's rights just because they happen to be muslim. But, I don't believe that our State Department should ever again issue entry visas to anyone from a predominately muslim country and, I believe that the visas for all foreigners from those coungtries living here now should be revoked and the individuals returned home. And never forget that we don't hear from the "peaceful" muslims -- even Americans -- about how they disapprove of the horrors committed in the name of their religion. Have you seen demonstrations where peaceful muslims protest that radicals are hijacking a peaceful and gentle religion? I sure haven't. Islam wants to dominate the world. They are not willing to tolerate conflicting points of view.

    We don't know if Hasan was a sleeper agent waiting for an opportunity to do mahem or if he is simply a religious nut bent on mahem. It does seem that, if the muslims don't have sleeper agents in place, there are a lot of muslim religious nuts willing to die in order to kill Americans. You can call me a terrorist if it makes you feel morally superior; it doesn't hurt my feelings. But, I don't see where blind trust of muslims is a healthy or wise thing.

    November 6, 2009 at 8:48 p.m.

  • VISDMOM has forgotten about the USS Cole bombing,1998 US Embassy attack, 1993 World Trade Center bombing, and Sept. 11, 2001, but remembers the Salem witch trials. Wow, just wow.

    November 6, 2009 at 2:05 p.m.

  • If I may - what this man has done is so reprehensible as to be beyond words. However, Islam is not the only religion who has perpetrated horrible acts on others in the name of religion. Have you ever heard of a little thing called the Inquisition? Or the Salem Witch Trials? Or the Crusades? All of those atrocities were committed in the name of Christianity, and I can promise you that those atrocities approached or exceeded the violence being currently perpetrated by Muslim extremists. No, those Christians did not have suicide bombers, but numbers of dead were still large (thousands dead; men, women and children, just like now), for just as specious a reason.

    I am not a Muslim; I consider myself a Christian. But Christianity is not always all about sweetness and light and love thy neighbor.

    I don't think this man did this because he is/was Muslim; I'm not convinced that has anything to do with it. From reports, he had a history of instability that was never addressed. If his name had been John Doe, he was a Catholic (or Baptist or Lutheran or what have you) and he had shouted in English "God is Wonderful" as he was shooting, would everyone be saying "That just goes to show that all (insert religion here) are killers?"

    I apologize if this all sounds simple-minded. I'm not trying to defend this terrible man. I would not have shed a single tear if he had died. My heart is terribly saddened for those who DID lose their lives yesterday and for for their families. I hope everyone will do whatever they can to assist with blood drives or donations going on in Victoria to lend assistance.

    November 6, 2009 at 1:48 p.m.

  • Thanks to the Vicad for removing my last comment about ALLAHU AKBAR. I considered removing it myself but waited for you to do it.
    I think our citizens need to read about the Muslim Twenty Year Plan here...http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33898

    November 6, 2009 at 11:45 a.m.

  • From a story in the Houston Chronicle by Scott Huddleston and Sig Christenson: "Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, the base commander at Fort Hood, said on NBC's Today Show that witnesses heard Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan shout "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire. The phrase means "God is great!" in Arabic."

    I understand the First Amendment and Congress can't pass any laws respecting an establishment of religion, but that doesn't mean that on a personal level I have to be understanding and accepting of the most vile and violent of acts because they are perpetrated in the name of religion. Kind and peaceful -- uh huh, right.

    November 6, 2009 at 10:47 a.m.

  • From what I've heard the signs were all there for a long time. I watched several news coverages and flipping back and forth between two majors I caught a lot of candid interviews that seemed to have been ended abruptly by outside influence. The shooters comments (if they were true recolections), pointed towards his capacity for extremeism. My jury is still out but my speculation is a full box I'll keep a lid on until any official reports begin to come out. Hopefully today. The press conference was helpful in that it cleared upa lot of the fog of the situation. Lets see what we can learn today.
    I am glad he is alive to answer for his actions!

    November 6, 2009 at 8:24 a.m.

  • Uhhh, that "I'm not" in front of "I revere the Constitution" was supposed to have been deleted. Sorry 'bout that. There was a loose nut behind my keyboard and it's gettin' late.

    November 5, 2009 at 10:50 p.m.

  • dollysdad...And I stand by mine. I'm not looking to have it both ways. Removing appendeges one at a time, over the course of several days violates the Constitutional prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment. On the other hand, an investigation into his actions IS Constitutional and prudent. I'm not I revere the Constitution the way a baptist preacher revers his bible. I don't want the US to descend to the level of islamic society. I don't think there is ANYTHING good about islam.

    November 5, 2009 at 10:48 p.m.

  • A cousin of the shooter said he was born and raised in America. The family is in shock.

    November 5, 2009 at 8:41 p.m.