windy, one more time. As long as any poster wants to disprove or dispute the the facts or opinions in the original blog post I have no problem with that. No matter how much vitriole is spouted. However, I will not allow garbage like;

" "Read and study the book of Sura."

lol, zomg, roflmbo, snicker, snicker, tee-hee-hee, laugh, cry, etc. etc. etc."

Now do you get it?

It's kind of like those local liberals who attack Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh over and over and all they can whine about is one's past alcohol abuse and the other's past drug use. They throw out terms like right-wing extremist but absolutely refuse to actually dispute or disprove the facts of the matter these men bring up.

In the most simple terms; if you post on my blog let's discuss the facts and the opinions on those facts.

I don't think I can make it anymore clear than that. While you and I disagree frequently I can honestly say you stay on-topic and I don't mind a spirited debate with you. You are intelligent and have the presence of mind to stick to what the issues of the blog post are.

Kenneth, where did this Don Mendel teach? I would be interested to read more about his story.

Ken...I'm thinking I wasn't clear enough about what I meant. You say you will not be silenced, yet you silence those who disagree with you. You don't let others read a post that poses a different viewpoint and THAT is what I meant when I said it was cowardly to delete posts. Opinion are just that -- opinions -- and like certain bodily orifices, everybody has'em.

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Ken...I never said you were a coward in your dealings with the water authorities. I said that deleting posts that disagree with you was cowardly as is the Advocate deleting posts...but the Advocate OWNS the site and can do what they please.

When I doubted you assertion the other day that you are a social liberal, you said you wouldn't explain and then spent far more time telling me about the pecans and other stuff you had to do. It would have been less effort to explain about how liberal you are.

signal, very amusing. However, had you done your research you'd have known that the gay person mentioned, taunted this man four times knowing full well his convictions in an effort to get him fired.

I can identify! When I stood against the first water conservation district here I was targeted and my employer was contacted twice in order to get me fired.

And as long as the radical homosexual agenda is being pushed down the throats of kindergarteners I shall speak up and I shall not be silenced!

windy, and by the way, I put my name on everything I write! You've got a lot of brass calling ME a coward!

Until you trade in "thewaywardwind" for your real name you've got no business calling ME a coward!

I've been putting my real name on what I've written for more than 25 years!

Yeah, you just keep talkin'! You're lookin' really good about now! Chuckle!

windy, as I have said before, stay on topic. Disagree with me as you like but if you sit back and simply ridicule without disproving or disputing the facts at hand I will delete you in a heartbeat.

As you are more than aware I am no coward. I have gone up against some of the most powerful people in this state on this very blog and you blasted well know it.

Your accusation was silly and unfounded and you know it. How about YOU coming down to the next appearance of Bill West of GBRA and stand there while I tear down his meathouse in public. Watch his face get red and his hands shake. Know that he's got a $45 million warchest to deal with people like me. Then call me a coward!

Better yet, where were you when Bill Richter and I, and a small handful of others, were the only ones from Victoria loudly standing against SAWS, SARA and GBRA? Where were you? Was I a coward then? When I was standing between them and your tap or well water was I a coward?

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Waywardwind-

"The opposition must be silenced!"
-Kenneth

Thelastsignal...LOL!!! That is one of the best posts ever. Thank you for your humor and uncommon good sense.

Ken...This may be interpreted as a personal attack on you although it's not intended as such -- just a statement of personal opinion. Your deleting posts is as cowardly as the Advocate staff doing it, although, the Advocate does own the site and can do with it as they will.

I, too, fear the homosexual agenda. How dare they be free to get married? The only reason my marriage survives is so that I can rub it in the face of all those gays that can't! If they're allowed to get married, then what will I have left?

Won't somebody think of the children? "Smear the queer" is a game that has lasted through the ages. If they start thinking that being gay is fine, then what will they fill their time with on the playground? Four square is for socialist sissies.

Damn those gays for infringing on my God given rights as a middle class white male. We're the greatest minority in this country! I remember the good old days, when I could walk down the street insulting those of different races and beliefs without the fear of repercussion. Now I have to let people live their lives and be happy in ways that don't affect me? Malarky, I say! What's the use of being a white male in this country if you can't wake up every morning, look in the mirror and say "Well, at least I'm better than those limp wrist guys who are trying to marry each other. Gross. Except for Steve... he's one of the good ones"?

Why do they keep calling me a bigot? Just because I would deny them the same rights that get abused day in and day out? Why don't people care about the institution of marriage? So what if 50% of them end in divorce? That's just god's plan!

Kenneth said-

" After a study of the Qu'ran, Allah is accurately described as the (paraphrasing) "the greatest of deceivers."
Read and study the book of Sura. It's an eye-opener."

Kenneth,

Your statement, "read the book of sura," stands on its own demerit.

So does your behavior. Thanks.

FT, what are you babbling on about and what has any of it to do with the original blog post?

Show me scripture that allows me to forgive someone else's sin. It's not there, although Jesus admonishes us to forgive one another's trespasses. Try to stay on topic.

Hmmm! That was such fun!

Just to clarify:

!. Kenneth can, has and will delete other's comments.

2. ...And this is the good part,

Kenneth Schustereit has never implied that he has "studied Islam" and never will. Kenneth has, in fact, "cracked" the Qu'ran. Which is very easy in today's world of the internet. Kenneth still advises the reader to study Sura 9:29 and enjoy the experience of being enlightened.

And now I shall exercise the delete button I'm not supposed to have the ability to do! Chuckle! Keep posting ex! This is more fun than a barrel of monkeys!

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Kenneth, I know many a christian that would disagree with you on that.

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"Read and study the book of Sura."

lol, zomg, roflmbo, snicker, snicker, tee-hee-hee, laugh, cry, etc. etc. etc.

windy, sorry. I refuse to explain this again. Nor do I have the time. I have pecans to pick and shell, four construction sites to visit, citrus trees to nurse and neuropathic feet to rub and exercise. Go back and search "social liberal" on my blogs. That should make it clear.

FT, "Love the sinner, hate the sin!" I can't forgive sin. Only God can do that. I can forgive a transgression against myself however. I make an effort to do this every day.
Beakus, Just hours after my original post concerning whether Allah is the same Jehovah God Christians and Jews worship was removed because "the Advocate is not going to get involved in a religious war" the incident at Ft. Hood happened. Fox News keeps reporting that the major kept screaming, "Allah akhbar!" explaining that phrase means "God is great!" This is incorrect. That phrase actually means and translates as "Allah is the greatest!" After a study of the Qu'ran, Allah is accurately described as the (paraphrasing) "the greatest of deceivers."
Read and study the book of Sura. It's an eye-opener.
In the same spirit of political correctness practiced by the Army brass my very well documented series of blogs were removed. I shall not be silenced!

Ken..." Constitutional conservative would be an accurate description. And an extreme social liberal would also be accurate."

Socially liberal??? You??? Since when??? I've seen your posts regarding gays, gay marriage, gay agenda, abortion, abortion rights, and (I think but am not positive) fetal rights. I NEVER would have taken you for a socially liberal sort of guy. The only thing I can figure is that either I have a distorted view of what socially liberal is or you do.

Ken. Just curious. When you say you will not be silenced, I am wondering what it would take for the VA to pull your plug. Or do you know if that can happen? I probably just assumed some have been removed, since I never see posts by BigJ or Pilot. I hope you would never loose your privelege.

I thought it was suppose to be love the sinner and forgive the sin.

PE, ok I'm officially impressed! You question my sources without ridicule. Excellent. As you are new to this forum I welcome you whether you are liberal or conservative.
Intelligent dialog is always welcome on my blog. Even from those idealogically opposed to my views. An intelligent discussion can always find ways to moderate political opinions.
The long and the short of it: I've been writing in this paper for 27 years next April. I am a political conservative and a social liberal. Constitutional conservative would be an accurate description. And an extreme social liberal would also be accurate. I am an evangelical, Spirit-filled Christian. When I do bible study I do it from a Jewish view. In other words I take what the KJV says all the way back through the Latin and Greek to the original Hebrew. It gives one a more thorough perspective.
I regret to say I am not college educated although, having been tested by the TWC, I have scored at college level on every subject except math. (I hate math!) One day soon I hope to attend Victoria College.
As I said in my blog, I have had first hand experience at being attacked in order to silence me. That shall not happen!
In reading political stories, reading the law and reading proposed laws I am a student of Benjamin Cordozo. He was the first Hispanic Justice on the Supreme Court. He taught us that we must read the law from WHAT THE LANGUAGE (THE ACTUAL MEANING OF THE WORDS USED) says. That is also how I read and study the bible; from the original Hebrew. I have a Hebrew bible and it often gives me a better insight as to what the KJV actually says.
I hope that answers your question and I look forward to more discussions with you.

Kennth, I am new to this forum, so I must have missed it where you posted your qualifications concerning your expert opionions concerning everything Christian. I too read the Bible, but I don't claim to know (or even understand) everything that is written in the Book.

I did learn in college when quoting/using others' work, a writer must footnote and give credit for each thought not original. Do you do this? I would love to research more of your sources to expand my knowledge base. Thanks.

I'm on the fence about Christianity, I mean I don't dislike anything about it, but some of the stuff in the Bible contradicts what science has proven. We know the earth formed over the course of millions of years, and humans weren't around for a good while when it first started, either. If you don't believe in some parts of the Bible, then it seems you have to pick and choose which parts you DO believe, and that's my only beef with it.

But I will say, even if this may be off topic, that the whole "don't ask, don't tell" thing is crap. How can you be asked to fight and die for your country if you're not even allowed to be who you are? What, you're good enough to die for them but you have to keep your mouth shut and lie about who you are? I have issues with that.

www. I do understand how you do not believe the bible. There are a number of Christians that do not believe everything in the bible. But 2 Timothy 3:16 tells us that all scripture is inspired by God.

God is good, all the time. He is a loving God. And He would never send anyone to hell for being a homosexual, no more then He would send someone to hell for being a murderer or a rapist. What he sends people to hell for is not believing (trusting in) in the finished work of His son Jesus Christ, which is His death on the cross for the sins of all mankind and his resurrection from the dead. That is the simple gospet message. When you believe in the Lord Jesus, you receive the Holy Spirit, who will open your mind and heart to accept all of God's teaching. We are saved by faith and not by our own good living or refraining from sins.

Beakus...I have read it and I know what the Bible says God thinks about it. The problem is that I don't believe what the Bible says. You see, the Bible also says that Lot's wife was turned into a pillar of salt. It says that the entire world was flooded. It says that Johna (sp?) was swallowed by a whale and lived to tell about it. It says that man was made from dirt and woman was made from his rib. It says that the world (universe?) was created in six days. There is just too much in the Bible that common sense tells me can't be true to believe EVERYTHING in it. Therefore, if everthing isn't true, it leads to doubt about that which is true and which isn't. I CANNOT believe that a kind and loving God would create people he would then condem BECAUSE of the way he made them.

Please understand that I'm not trying to be disagreeable, but when people say they love homosexuals but hate the homosexuality, they are being disingenuous. How could you ask a person to deny who he or she is? You would tell a percentage of the population that simply by following their instincts and making love with another person following those same instincts that they are forever condemned to the blazes of hell because they consumated an act of love? That's not very nice. You would tell a percentage of the population that they cannot marry a person with whom they are in love and with whom they want to spend their lives because they are the same sex? That's not very nice. Nobody says that if a gay couple moves in next door, you have to invite them to dinner or to even acknowlege them. But, they are citizens of this great nation, and should be able to have the same opportunities and protections of the law you and I enjoy, but because of their sexual orientation, they cannot. That's not very nice, either.

Kenneth,
You are a Christian, you should not be allowed to talk. Even though your voice is a Constitutional right you shall be quieted.

That Constitution, it is such an old and outdated thing.

There are non so blind as those that WILL NOT see.

Kenneth is doing the Christian thing. He is voicing what he and millions of others believe. Seeks to do no harm to anyone, just giving an opposing view.
So why are so many taking a Marxist, Communist, Radical Muslim, Sal Alinsky type view of silencing anothers non harming view point?

Like I have said. In today's big table society, you have to be approved before you can speak. Passing judgement on them but screaming about what you believe is someone judging others.

WWW, 1guy, RedRage; I agree 100% with the last comment Ken S made. I do respect your opinions and would like to agree to disagree. Although it is tough for this sinful Christian to not respond to people who call evil good, per God's word. Consider reading what God says and make your own decision what He thinks about homosexuality. Of course if what He thinks does not make a hill of beans to someone, why would they care?

windy, you still don't get it yet do you? Neither beakus of myself are intolerant of gays. I happen to love all homosexuals. I have friends who are homosexual. It's the homosexuality I'm intolerant of. It's the homosexual agenda I'm intolerant of. For me to hate gays just because of their sexual orientation is indeed intolerance. It is bigotry. It is discrimination and it's a sin. No, God doesn't need my help for anything but he expects me to spread the gospel, care for the widows and orphans and speak up for and protect the innocent. I shall do that until my last breath. It's obvious you know just enough about God's word to be dangerous to yourself.

BRAVO to thatoneguythere! Great posts!

Beakus..."Then www chimes in that this particular tolerance does not affect us. Well, you explain that to your God when you come face to face with Him."

Ummmm, okay, I'll be sure to do that if the subject comes up. Just to keep things equal, since God made us ALL, and God doesn't make mistakes, when the time comes to face Him, YOU explain why you were so INTOLERANT of gays.

I keep seeing comments that the Bible says homosexual activity is an abomination to God and that's why people should oppose gay rights. Since God is omnipotent, don't you think that if He has strong objections to the actions gay people take, He can handle the problem without help from you and Ken?

Ken..."Allah is not Jehovah God. Allah is a master deceiver. This is truth! Veritas! The Qu'ran brags about it."

Okay, you've lost me again. I am befuddled. WHAT does allah and the qu'ran have to do with the topic of whether or not gay people -- citizens like you and me -- should be allowed by law to benefit from equality under the Constitution?

No one ever said you didn't have the right to express yourself, but I believe if you lash out at any group, you should fully expect for them to fight back. You can't bash homosexuals and then whine or get upset when they stand up for themselves and fight you back, it just doesn't work that way. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. You can't pass judgment on them and expect no reaction. You're man enough to speak out against them--you should be man enough to accept it when they form an alliance to fight you back.

As for AIDS, I hope you seriously aren't blaming homosexuals for every infected person in this country. In this day and age, we all know what AIDS is and have been educated on how to protect ourselves from contracting it. If you have sex without a condom and catch AIDS, how the hell can you turn around and blame it on the gays? You know damn well how it's transmitted, it's your own fault for being stupid. That just seems like a way of shrugging off responsibility where it really lies. If you manage to catch AIDS, it is no one's fault but your own.

All I see a whole lot of blaming and passing judgment. For such a peaceful, loving religion, you people sure twist everything and use it to spread hatred and fear. It's disgusting. You preach about love and acceptance, but only if it meets your own expectations, and you're quick to rally people up in support of lashing out against an entire demographic. That doesn't sound peaceful or loving to me at all.

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Beakus, but it doesn't affect you. You are not being asked to participate in homosexual activities just because someone else is. All you have to do is acknowledge their existence. If there were rape or murder involved, then you could climb on your high horse and preach, but when two adults consent to doing something that is their own business and harms no one physically or infringes on your civil rights in some way, then it's not up to you. I fail to see why anyone cares what two grown people do between themselves if it isn't affecting their own life. You can go on all day about how you disagree with it from a moral standpoint, fine, but morals are just opinions everyone has. Premarital sex, drug use, etc. can all be slated morally by people. Just keep to your heterosexual relationships and be happy. Why be concerned what other people are doing? It's their business. And hate to break it to you, but children in this country are well aware of homosexuals and it doesn't seem to be causing any of them to jump off bridges or go to therapists for a destroyed childhood. If they can fathom things like murder, rape, and war, I think they can handle two members of the same sex being intimate without having their entire lives shaken.

And Observer, if a gay couple uses protection like everyone else and doesn't go whore it up with everyone they know, they can't catch anything you can't catch. There are no "homosexual only" diseases, and you can't catch diseases if you utilize the same precautions every straight couple does. You say a lot when you say "What they do now is not only disgusting"...you need to admit even if homosexuals had no diseases you would still find reasons to hate them. It's a psychological need for you and nothing, not even if they all became world peace workers and spent every day giving food to the hungry, would make you accept them. It's fine, but at least be honest with yourself.

Me, I see no sense in having bees in my bonnet over something I can't change and that doesn't affect my life. What do I care if two gays have sex, marry, or do whatever with one another? I have a job, bills, my family, and a million other things to worry about other than the actions of some individuals that are not my concern. Go about your own business and live your life, stop wasting energy hating a group that will be there at the end of the day no matter what you do. It just doesn't make sense to me.

While we are on the subject, one of the best-kept secrets about the homosexual community is the incredibly high rate of morbidity and mortality they have. While the mortality rate has fallen with the advent of drugs that treat the effects of AIDS (although they DO NOT cure it), the morbidity rate remains astonishingly high, not that you would know this from anything you see in the mainstream media. What they do is not only disgusting, it is very, very unhealthy. This is a diseased population and anything that promotes their practices also promotes the spread of the diseases which they are prone to contract.

Oneguy - You have very well stated the opinion of the left leaning liberal Americans who see nothing wrong with the gay lifestyle being allowed to receive minority status which allows privileges like same sex marriage, gay couple adoption, openly gays in the military, gay lifestyle condoned and added to our children's school books, etc....

Then www chimes in that this particular tolerance does not affect us. Well, you explain that to your God when you come face to face with Him. The true minorities that have been oppressed because of their race are the ones who should be offended by the glad folks using the minority card.

There is a real difference in being tolerant and not speaking up for what someone believes is morally wrong. No different than the abortion issue.

Very well stated, oneguy. There are so many things that DO affect us, one wonders why so many are so outraged over things that DON'T.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I don't think anyone should be fired for that. But you have to use common sense. Stating openly to the public that you disapprove of homosexuality is a stupid thing to do. Most workplaces now have strict stipulations about that sort of thing--it's not about suppressing the opinion of anyone, it's about keeping someone else from being singled out or feeling harassed. My job has zero tolerance for any remarks made to another employee or customer regarding their sexual orientation, race, or religion. You have to be an idiot to open your mouth at your job--there's a time and place for everything. I'm not going to tell my coworkers I hate Catholics or that I think Mexicans are lazy. That may be my opinion, but to say it publicly where I work is beyond foolish and I'd deserve to be fired for that.

There's also not much logic in arguing that homosexuals are intolerant of anyone not accepting them because any group that is persecuted is going to fight back. That's a given. You can't expect to back someone into a corner and have them roll over for you. I fail to understand why it matters to anyone in the first place. Being intolerant of anyone for their personal decisions just breeds animosity. It's unhealthy. Why would someone want to feel that way towards anyone? I can understand if it were related to something harmful, but consensual homosexual relationships are not harmful to anyone else. Being intolerant or opposed to them just sows the seeds of hatred and animosity, and honestly do we really need any more of that in the world? Why make life more complicated than it already is? Disapproving of them isn't going to make them go away any more than disapproving of a certain skin color will solve anything. They'll still be around, and you'll still harbor resentment for them. I fail to see how it makes sense from a logical point of view. God gave us the wisdom to accept the things we cannot change. Unless you have some secret plan for eradicating every homosexual and future homosexual in the world, better take that advice and get used to it.