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What do you think would happen if we moved away from the traditional grading scale or stopped assigning grades altogether? At one time the idea would have offended me but now it makes perfect sense. I don't keep grades or give report cards here in my home.

To me if the goal is learning or mastery then keeping grades is pointless. Think about it. If the goal is mastery the child has to get an A. You don't go on until the material is mastered. If every child gets an "A" the grading scale is useless. The focus should be learning and not a letter grade, right?

I thought that going gradeless would only be possible in a home school where teacher lives with student and conversation and life can serve as lesson, review, or assessment. But, there are public school teachers who have stopped relying on the traditional grading scale in their classrooms.

I'm curious.

Here is a link to Alfie Kohn News and Comments where the idea is discussed. It's another one of those links shared over on Twitter by a forward thinking teacher. The article contains other links if you are interested in digging deeper.

What do you think?

I like how in one of the linked articles someone referred to our reluctance to change in education as "aggressive nostalgia." They explained it better...

P.S. Years ago while discussing to grade or not to grade with other homeschool moms, one mom, I think it was Ann Zeise, said, "Grades are for eggs!" The phrase stuck and became a part of my idiolect. ::giggle::


Comments


  • Jose, I wish that "drop outs" were allowed a certain amount of time to leave school to do what needed to be done without being penalized when they decide or are able to return. Maybe high school should only be 2-3 years for those who excel academically - kinda like getting out early for good behavior - but extended to 4 for those who need more time whether for academic reasons or family emergencies or even BOREDOM. If you are a college bound high schooler why not just graduate early and start college - you pretty much repeat many courses in college and many students dual enroll anyway... Just thinking. With the technology we have today almost anyone can learn anything from the privacy of their home. Even without technology courses and materials can be mailed to a home... Even without formal courses there are people who gain knowledge in their life on the job etc... just thinking. But, I LOVE thinking about educational alternatives...

    February 2, 2010 at 8:56 a.m.

  • Jose, you should be proud. I bet if I were to take a GED test right now I wouldn't pass it.

    I've always wondered how YOU were educated. You are so creative. Were you considered "gifted" when you were in school?

    What about writing? You say science was your best subject but did you like to write when you were in high school?

    February 2, 2010 at 8:33 a.m.

  • I became burned out on trying to obtain good 'grades' by my senior year in high school. I had too many classes such as algebra 4,history 4, trigonometry 3, and so on, and so on. I dropped out after a week or so and went on to work a job in order to support my family. My weakest area was always math but a construction job found me doing measurment calculations in my head and getting them right almost all of the time. My strongest area was science. After four years out of school I walked into VC and took the GED. I chose not to study and passed. Grades had been a part of my mentality for so long that I was a bit too proud of my 99 that I got on the science section.

    I think what you have uncovered here should be implemented across the board. It takes away the stress to achieve a letter or number that students don't need to be burdened with. I'm sure i would have completed high school if things were so back then.

    Mastery of any given subject should be the goal of all schooling and across all grades. One grade at the very end of the year is all that should be given. Or, a comment on the level of achievment the student has obtained. I'm not really one who likes change, but this would be a very good one.

    February 2, 2010 at 7:50 a.m.

  • I like private schools and homeschooling for the very reasons you sited.

    January 30, 2010 at 3:12 p.m.

  • Though some claim to have had success with it it's hard to imagine it working without our whole society experiencing a pedagogical paradigm shift. I guess that's why I'm drawn to the idea of free schools and democratic schools. Non traditional ideas are hard to pull off in a traditional system. Easiest here... ;)

    January 30, 2010 at 12:48 p.m.

  • Rebecca, diligent teachers use a grade book not only to record something at the end of six weeks, but to get a clear picture of concepts that need to be retaught. They revamp their lesson plans for necessary reteach. In a classroom of 25, if more than 5 or 6 don't make decent grades on an evaluation, then reteach is critical and especially in math. Certain building blocks must be mastered 75 to 100%, and it is really important that about 85% of the class falls in that range.

    January 29, 2010 at 9:39 p.m.

  • Twitter tale: We have participated in the Pizza Hut Book-it program over the years. One day I tweeted, "I wonder what Alfie Kohn would have to say about the Book-It program." I got a direct message from Alfie Kohn that said, "Fat kids who hate to read."

    I thought that was funny.

    January 29, 2010 at 7:50 p.m.

  • The article is by the "Punished by Rewards" author. That is very interesting! =D

    January 29, 2010 at 1:38 p.m.

  • Speaking from a personal experience, I can tell you that this is one of those good ideas in theory that, it practice, is a disaster. Properly used, grades can motivate students to work up to their capabilities. Take away the grades and you take away a motivating factor. In addition, put yourself in the position of a parent who only finds out at the end of a semester that their darling "above average" student has flunked a course. My experience was with a high school in another state. The experiment lasted about five years and was finally discarded in the face of overwhelming opposition from the parents of the students in that high school. As I remember it, the only votes in favor of continuing the policy were from parents of students who were truly "gifted and talented", i.e. students who would have worked to their capabilities with or without grades.

    January 29, 2010 at noon