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  • This is what the WSJ said about the Minnesota recount at the time. The recount had an aroma of corruption about it which again points out that most of the fraud occurs when the polls are closed.

    "Strange things keep happening in Minnesota, where the disputed recount in the Senate race between Norm Coleman and Al Franken may be nearing a dubious outcome. Thanks to the machinations of Democratic Secretary of State Mark Ritchie and a meek state Canvassing Board, Mr. Franken may emerge as an illegitimate victor.

    Mr. Franken started the recount 215 votes behind Senator Coleman, but he now claims a 225-vote lead and suddenly the man who was insisting on "counting every vote" wants to shut the process down. He's getting help from Mr. Ritchie and his four fellow Canvassing Board members, who have delivered inconsistent rulings and are ignoring glaring problems with the tallies."

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12311...

    Personally I don't care which party commits the fraud I think it's disgusting, illegal and un-American.

    March 9, 2012 at 6:09 p.m.

  • It seems like the GOP would vote in some stiff penalties if they were really concerned over voter fraud. If your one of Gov, (soon to ex gov.) Walkers's buddies you get off light.

    "It’s OK if you’re a Republican. Even if you commit voter fraud. Even if you are found guilty of three felony counts of voter fraud by a jury of your peers. Even if you are found guilty of six felony counts overall. Even if you are the secretary of state – the chief election official – of the first state in the union to institute polling place photo ID restrictions which Republicans claim are meant to prevent voter fraud but actually succeed only in keeping longtime voters (like 80- and 90-year-old nuns) from being able to cast their previously legal votes.

    So long as you’re a Republican, you won’t spend any time in jail for voter fraud. And, if you’re Charlie White, Indiana’s lucky, now-former Republican secretary of state who received just one year of home detention for all of those crimes, you’ll likely be “elated,” just as White was after his sentencing hearing last week."

    http://www.salon.com/2012/02/27/vote_...

    March 9, 2012 at 3:24 p.m.

  • Norm Coleman, conceded the election to Mr. Franken after the Minnesota Supreme Court declared Mr. Franken the winner in a 32-page unanimous decision. On every ground, the judicial panel rejected Mr. Coleman's claims of trial errors or constitutional violations, and decided that Mr. Franken's election should be certified by the state as valid.

    All along, the election - with ballots cast by 2.9 million Minnesotans - had been stunningly close. One early count, not long after Election Day, showed Mr. Coleman ahead by just 206 votes. During a statewide hand recount process, the numbers fluctuated up and down, and ultimately, a three judge panel announced that Mr. Franken had won by 312 votes

    http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/refe...

    March 9, 2012 at 3:02 p.m.

  • Everybody knows there is election fraud. Texas is famous for Jim Wells Ballot Box 13 that got LBJ elected to the Senate. The box contained 200 ballots where voters voted in alphabetical order using the same color pen and they all had the same hand writing.

    Most election fraud occurs after the polls close, voter ID cards won't stop that. The Minnesota election between Franken and Coleman is a more recent example of election irregularities and of judicial overreach - there are many more. A while back I was a poll watcher for a precinct notorious for voting irregularities. Nothing too crooked occurred while the poll was open, but when it closed they could not get me out of there fast enough.

    But I do think a voter ID would help a little, what we have now at least in some states is pretty ridiculous. It completely undermines the integrity of the process to the point where many don't have any confidence in it. The process is so loose it invites fraud because it is almost impossible to detect. We need to do whatever we can to insure that people will respect the result of an election, because it affects the ability of the elected officials to govern and it's even a threat to our liberty.

    March 9, 2012 at 2:36 p.m.

  • I still find it hard to believe that there are folks who still believe that folks are flocking over here from Mexico (cause you know that is the only place folks come from when they are here illegally) to vote! What would they be voting for? Who represents them in Washington? Place 3 on the Victoria City Council? Alex Hernandez, Jr. rather than Geanie Morrison? Really?

    March 9, 2012 at 12:45 p.m.

  • born2Bme

    If the GOP were sincere in their efforts to curb POTENTIAL voter fraud they would phase in these voter ID laws to take effect in 2016. That way,they could find a way to pay the costs for those who cannot afford it and make student IDS and other picture IDs acceptable for voting....The goal is for more people to vote,not the opposite.

    March 9, 2012 at 12:39 p.m.

  • A few months ago, my mom's drivers license expired, so I took her to the DMV to get a Texas ID card. I watched as a few people were having a very hard time coming up with the documentation to get theirs. Mostly hispanic and elderly people.
    These new voting laws are going to make it harder for certain people to vote, which is exactly what certain groups are aiming at.
    And yes, my mom is in a Assisted Living facility. What difference does that make anyway? Just because their bodies are no longer able to take care of themselves, does it mean their minds are gone too? She also had to pay to get that Texas ID, although it wasn't as much as a DL, but people in that income group just might have a hard time paying even that.
    I believe in voter integrity, but making laws this close to elections, will exclude many eligible voters, and it is a shame that people are so scared of President Obama getting back in, they are willing to make it as difficult as they can for, what they perceive, his voters.
    What they do not understand is that they will loose votes this way too.

    March 9, 2012 at 12:16 p.m.

  • Even at the time, there was no evidence to back up such outlandish claims. A major probe by the Justice Department between 2002 and 2007 failed to prosecute a single person for going to the polls and impersonating an eligible voter, which the anti-fraud laws are supposedly designed to stop. Out of the 300 million votes cast in that period, federal prosecutors convicted only 86 people for voter fraud – and many of the cases involved immigrants and former felons who were simply unaware of their ineligibility. A much-hyped investigation in Wisconsin, meanwhile, led to the prosecution of only .0007 percent of the local electorate for alleged voter fraud.

    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/...

    March 9, 2012 at 10:41 a.m.

  • Wide spread voter fraud is a MYTH.

    I believe one the several GOP controlled states like Alabama have only reported 3 case of voter fraud in the last 4 years...It's a GOP political tactic that some say will disenfranchise 5 million voters...

    Can someone provide me a link showing me where an undocumented immigrant has voted or I'll make it easier,a like showing voter fraud on the rise?....Only the blind cannot see what this is all about..Hint: These stricter voting laws are only in states controlled by republicans...They see the demographics and know they stand a chance unless they start taking drastic steps...I see they fooled some.

    March 9, 2012 at 10:34 a.m.

  • Alton, wouldn't military have ID?? I agree though. It is not tough to get a legal government issued photo ID. I never understood in an age of wide spread voter fraud why one group would not want to do what they can to curb voter fraud. It only forces me to one conclusion.

    March 9, 2012 at 9:47 a.m.

  • This law is important because it will have accurate accountability in the voting numbers. Unlike some areas up north where as polling results takes weeks to count on close elections. The end result appeared to have more votes than registered voters. It is no different than appling for public assistence...you must be a registered voter and that means you must abide by the eligibility required thereto.

    March 9, 2012 at 7:48 a.m.

  • I wonder how many of the 18% registered voters without state government-issued ID's are individuals in nursing homes/long term care centers, or in the military, or passed residence that moved out of the state, or individuals that are not a legal Texas state residence, or live in prison, or illegal aliens, or reside in mental hospitals, or reside in cemeteries, or have dementia, or just plain fake individuals? Without this knowledge how can the Chronicle make such a rash statement that the law affects legal citizens in the state's majority counties? This appears to be another fraudulent racial claim to get Texas to abandon a logical law to reduce voter fraud.

    March 8, 2012 at 8:22 p.m.