• Actual quote
    McCain frequently points out that he led "the largest squadron in the U.S. Navy," but Clark said on CBS television that that was not enough to support a claim to the presidency.
    When the interviewer, Bob Schieffer, noted to Clark that McCain had been shot down over Hanoi, Clark replied, "I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president."
    Never questioned McCain's patriotism,just  just answered a statement....Clark has said many times McCain is a true American hero .
    Many equate military service as presidential material,hero status a bonus but only in the case of General Eisenhower was that true.. His command authority over the Allied forces qualified him to be commander in chief.

    July 2, 2008 at 5:03 p.m.

  • Speaking to patriotism, why in the world would former General Wesley Clark attack McCains patriotism as "lacking" and then back down, but without apology? Some have said that Obama wants to "stay above the attacks", but apparently that doesn't mean his supporters won't follow his lead.
    Talk about a pre emptive strikes.....sounds like the war is just about to start.....
    Same old battles over again, I'd wager.

    July 2, 2008 at 4:33 p.m.

  • Hello Sandwichh
    I am not that naive to think that torture was not used in previous wars. This administration used it, got caught and tried to change the Geneva Convention to justify it..... Recently,the courts have ruled against this expansion of presidential powers in the Constitution.
     I believe Lincoln was the best president ever, especially when he filed his  war cabinet with opposition voices, because he wanted the best people.  Even if they did not agree with him.

    July 1, 2008 at 5:21 p.m.

  • "Torture, civil liberties, and habeas corpus come to mind"
    I guess it depends who does these things if it is all good to a liberal. What cause they deem okay to use these tactics and violations.
    One president comes to mind in all these things and is praised by the left,...and right. Abraham Lincoln. One of the time periods I am decently studied at. Many books in my library on this part of our history. I like what people of that time period had to say, not apologist. A violent, abusive decade had by many that brought our government more in line to have a strong, more centralized federal government.
    Lincoln knew about tortures done upon Southern civilians, and POWS. Letters are documented to have been written and recieved by him. He did little if nothing most of the time.
    Civil liberties, documented violations by civil servants and military of the Union. And since the North still felt the South was still in the Union, just revolting, it was against US citizens. Lincoln had some Northern papers ramsacked because they worte sympathetic articles about the South.
    And  habeas corpus, well enough said about that. There was none.
    All of this is in consideration that the Confederacy was not trying to overthrow the US government, just some states leave as was considered a right by many of the era. Leaving it to its way. The Confederacy to its. 
    So should we not consider Lincoln one of the worst violators in the US history? And he was a Republican. 

    July 1, 2008 at 5:13 p.m.