• After WWII the Japanese and Germans were defeated people and offered no resistance... Their culture embraced democracy,  and they thrived economically..... As you well know Iraq and the other Arab nations have been fighting this religious Sunni- Shiite war for ages.  Our presence there will not make a difference.... Their culture is content with a monarchic government.
    Joe Biden has the best solution.... Break up this country into Shiite, Shia, Kurd states, and they will settle their difference.,  Just like their Arab neighbors do.... We dethroned the ruling Shia and replaced it with the Shiites... Today we're protecting the Shia against the Shiites and Iranian influence.
    We don't have a Marshall plan for Iraq. The neocons, the president, and John McCain want to remain in Iraq for a long time,but they cannot tell us why we need  to continue to spend billions ,loss of life, and  not to mention the wounded or the three or four tours.  They only say if we withdraw anytime soon, it will cause genocide. That is not a true certain,besides they have been wrong since day one.
    Personally(I don't know for a fact).  I think the loss of the Vietnam War had a lasting impression on John McCain,and he vows to never let that happen again. Noble? If that causes him to have tunnel vision, then that is dangerous.
    This might be what is happening...From the washington Post
    The Bush administration is currently trying to push Iraqis into accepting a indefinite long-term security agreement, with demands including nearly 60 permanent bases, immunity for foreign contractors, control over air space, and authorization for war with Iran.
    But Iraqis are rejecting the administration’s stubborn attempts to control Iraq’s future. Today, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki remarked, “The American version of the agreement infringes hugely on the sovereignty of Iraq and this is something that we cannot ever accept.”

    June 14, 2008 at 11:38 a.m.

  • Hello Mike,
    When I look at how we're still in Germany, Korea, the Philipines, Okinawa, etc. I tend to agree with McCain.
    This seems to be the nature of American military history. Once we get there, most times we stay, if the natives are somewhat friendly.
    One can argue on the merits/faults of this occurrence, but it's a fact.
    Dealing with that pattern of wars and invasion, it does seem true that we will be in Iraq for some time to come, but maybe in a different capacity.
    Reducing casualties IS important.

    June 13, 2008 at 7:27 p.m.