It was a lot easier keeping up with the right- wing fringe groups back in the nineties. We had the Republic of Texas militia, but they dispersed after the Oklahoma bombing. I just heard of a new one called “tenthers”, a radical secessionist group. Their official name is the Texas Nationalist Movement. They even have a gubernatorial candidate named Debra Medina. Now there is the “Birthers,” who do not want to accept a black president; the Tea Party group is just a mixed bag of gripers, the “Deathers” think president Obama has a plan to kill old people and this new group just hates the United States.
I have to admit these groups are loud and they know how to get media attention. They're making an impact because they have not been unopposed, but mainly because the Democratic Party did not take them seriously, at first. I listened to Congressman Jim Moran's town hall meeting that he hosted with Howard Dean last night. At first the crowd was very rowdy and rude until security restored order. Congressman Moran divided the questions among those that opposed and those that were for Health Care Reform. Those that opposed reform kept asking the same question, “Why can't we have the same insurance as you do, Congressman Moran.” The congressman gave the same answer three different times by saying “I choose from 30 different private insurance companies and the government pays about 72% of my cost.” This illustrates the public option but the naysayers did not want to hear it. Howard Dean admitted that tort reform would not be in this bill because it would upset another special interest group, and they have already upset enough of them. Mr. Dean said we should never socialize prescription drugs because those companies need to make a profit to fund the next wonder drug.
I'm not a big fan of Nostradamus, but I can see the same tactic being used to try to equate President Obama with anything that is evil, like Nazism. I referred to it as the old trivia game called “six degrees of Kevin Bacon” logic. They both have an “A” in their first name so that might tie Obama to Hitler and his middle name is Hussein. 64 million people did not buy that argument in the last election. They're calling him a Marxist but the previous administration was applying the same tactics trying to keep this economy from going over the cliff. The Obama Administration did not nationalize the banks as some economist wanted, in fact, for all practical purposes; they are following in the same footsteps that led to the bubble. The Obama Administration continues to follow the same Patriot Act and domestic spying program carried out and started by the Bush Administration. The protesters were not active back then.
I will never understand why a middle- class taxpayer would want a Plutocracy style of government. Those same taxpayers are scared of their own shadow. Every week is Obama scare week, afraid that he is going take their guns, their third born child, kill their grandparents, and drive us into a depression, although his policies prevented us from going over that cliff the previous administration drove us to.
I appreciate the Victoria Advocate editorial board for its article debunking the NAZI comparison. The article will just go over the head of the fringe right, but it might enlighten that wavering moderate.
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I believe the shoe is on the other foot with this one Mike. Here's one of yours...Do you claim her?
September 2, 2009 at 9:35 a.m.JD
In order for your side to be correct, I would have to believe the newspaper of Hawaii, the state of Hawaii, Obama’s family, and our Secret Service and State Department had to be in on the conspiracy.
I have seen the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspaper, the Declaration of Birth with document number (blacked out) so I believe ;along with most of the population (according to polls)of the United States believe that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii…The case is closed…The burden of proof now lies with the deniers.
I cannot prove that the “birthers “don’t want to accept a black president but you cannot prove your theories either.
Thank you for keeping it civil.
September 1, 2009 at 11:34 a.m.Mike: It is not that the "birthers" don't want to accept a "black" president. It is that that they want the Constitution of the US followed. If Obama was born outside the US he cannot be president and anything he accomplishes and any laws he passes will have to be voided and nullified at some point in the future, at incredible expense I'm sure. If he is a legal US citizen, then for goodness sake he should just quit playing games and submit his lawful certified birth certificate instead of an easily forged proof of birth document. I can think of only two reasons why he won't do what has been asked of him. One...he feels it is beneath him to bowdown to the people of the US who do not support him or; Two...because he isn't a legal US citizen and knows that he should not be in office. Either way his actions on this matter or certainly not "presidential".
September 1, 2009 at 11:15 a.m.NO it's not my reading and comprehension, it's these rediculous open ended comments that you post. You enjoy this crap so you can get a good he ha out of it.. Read my sentence again. I used the word "equated"..
September 1, 2009 at 10:49 a.m.Itisi
You really must do something about your reading comprehension because I never mentioned the Republican Party….Fringe groups hold marginal or extreme views and are not usually associated with the two national parties.
Yes, I mocked the Texas Nationalist Movement because Saturday that leader stood on the steps of the capital in Austin ;pointed to the United States flag that was flying above the Texas flag and said “ I hate the United States and that flag(pointing to the US flag) will come down.” Then one of their gubernatorial candidates named Debra Medina said “Blood will be shed, we know that because “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots.” I am paraphrasing….At Timothy McVeigh’s trial the T-shirt that Mr. McVeigh was wearing had a picture of Abraham Lincoln on it, with writing below it. On the back it has a picture of a tree with red blood droplets on it."
Although the T-shirt lettering was not read in court, CNN has previously reported the shirt was printed with the Thomas Jefferson quote, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
http://www.cnn.com/US/9704/28/okc/
I never mentioned capitalism or any other economic system in this blog.
A poster mentioned Debra Medina; as an alternative to Rick Perry and Kay Bailey Hutchinson..Thought people would like background.
September 1, 2009 at 10:23 a.m.Tenthters group is that anything like, Peda, Greenpeace, Code pink, Sierra club or Van Jones the Green czar and communist, Mark Lloyd Marxist, FCC czar, Cass Sunshine socialist and czar. Now that is just a few to balance out you’re first paragraph. That is just how ridiculous you sound. The first paragraph you equated to Republicans in a sense to all that was mentioned, how unfair as you set back in you’re arm chair mock society. While on the other hand you rip the benefits of capitalism. Who are you? What are you? Why are you on this planet?
August 31, 2009 at 5:50 p.m.