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I thought polls were insignificant. Your words, not mine. As Senator Schumer said, "The American people don't care about these porky projects." I fear, after seeing some of the people on TV at the President Obama info-mmercials, with their hands out hoping for a hand out, that he may be correct.I agree with you on Canada, if we're going to go communist Marxist socialist, why not go all the way and be done with it? Of course that does leave the question of where my friend will move to next. His wife is from Nova Scotia. They moved back there after he retired, for a while. They had to move back to South Texas after just two years. They couldn't afford the free health care. His words, not mine.
After the details of the stimulas plan were explained ,the poll Karl Rove and the GOP were touting has flipped....You think they will quote this poll now?...:)..I doubt it.A new Rasmussen poll suggests that support for the stimulus plan has picked up again, after it had previously fallen last week.The numbers: 44% favor the package, 40% oppose it, and the remainder are undecided. The margin of error is ±3%.
rg201508I don’t know if you were being a bit sarcastic or mistook the meaning of my blog.I did not intend to make the blog look like the Canadian Chamber of Commerce.The United States like several other industrial nations lost their way but we will recover. Upon that recovery perhaps our government can take a peek at what they are doing and see if it is feasible to apply those some of the ideas that are working for them.
AltonI agree with you that this country will get out of this mess but I am hoping we will put in the right reforms and take out the bad, and if Canada survived this current mess, would it hurt to just glance at their structure? Would it hurt to reduce our leverage to say 20-1? Would it hurt to go back to our lending policy of say 1960? Canada is not this financial genius because we once operated like they are today.The tax and pay structure is relative the same in Canada but you are welcome to research it. The HIGH cost of health insurance is a factor in our trade agreements. No so for Canada.The summary I provided was not a US v Canada but more of central ideas that might help us in the future. (a) Adopting more transparency and more responsible loan agreements (b) health care reform to make it affordable for more people. I did not intend to have the same food fight with one- sided gloom & doom scenarios over health care(c) A immigration policy for the future needs of this country since we dont graduate math and engineering students at the rate needed, we should keep the brightest foreign students by revamping our immigration policy.I never read southtexas posts or blogs(it's predictable) so I will have to take your word but look back at my blog ..I NEVER mentioned Universal Health Care. If we cannot mention health care reform without upsetting pent up feelings, we dont have a conversation.I will repeat what the president said about the republicans
I am paraphrasing
We cannot have a reasonable debate if you have all the answers and solutions
.Lets strengthen what we agree on and compromise where we can without giving up our principal.This blog was meant to bring out a few ideas for when we start to see recovery; two or more years from now..Nothing else.BTW No one country has fully tapped in to the Going Green but like oil and steam it is the next product every country will crave for
Lets use our brain for something other than hate, anger, and pessimism.
Mike you must have missed reading about the history of banks of Canada, they have had their bank failures. The government did not bail them out or the stockholders. http://faculty.marianopolis.edu/c.bel...Cars are being make in Canada due to cheaper wages and lack of strong unions. It is true they also do not have the health care cost of American workers. It is also true the workers do not have the retirement benefits of American auto workers. The company also does not have to provide lifetime health care to retiring workers. The country is going green alright, a lot of green is going to be spent until we see red. By the way who is going to work on all these construction jobs; maybe illegal aliens given blanketed citizenship? southtexas is so right on. Even without a national health care plan, health care in this country has started in the direction of rationed care. Not only does private insurance, but government health care systems ration care. All of these groups have "standard of care protocol" from diagnosis to individual treatment. I do not know of a single insurance that does not now require prescription to be filled generic drugs when available , unless the patient wants to pay full cost. The list of drugs approved for treatment is also limited,--refereed as the formulary list. If the drug can be purchased over the counter, then they pay nothing. Usually the newest and/or expensive drugs are not on the list. Due to reductions in the available physicians, over the last 10 years the trend to be treated at a clinic by a Nurse Practitioner or Physician Assistance has became the norm. RN have became health care document movers first, now most patient care is done by LVN's and aides. Our current government operated health care administration is not the highest quality, they even refer to their standard as adequate care. Veterans Health care systems, military health care systems, and Native American Health care systems. In these facilities care is often delayed or classified as "patient is not a candidate" based upon age, obesity, hypertension(high-blood pressure), COPD(smoker's disease). If you fall into any of these classification, your only other option is to walk with your pocket book opened to private care. I have been to Russia and Germany, not to Canada. I would hate to see our health care go the way of Russia or Germany. Russian hospitals are the worst --you bring your own bedding, your family or someone hired takes care of your bed needs. Physicians prescribe treatment, nurses ensure medical treatment, they do not provide cleaning of the room, or bed care.
wow, we're behind the canadians. tht is so embarrassing its not even funny. hey mike, wht do they do for college students, like how does the aid work?
Mike...you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
The Joint Commission on Accreditation of Hospitals already monitors what your doctors do to you and what course of treament they can recommend. They even tell hospitals what drugs they can have on the floor versus in the pharmacy....something that can cause a real problem in an emergency....when you need more of an emergency drug than is in the emergency supply they allow and you have someone running to the pharmacy to get a critical medication during the middle of a code. Do you think the Senators and Reps that passed the law and had no clue about what they were doing really care.
If the Feds are already doing that, can you imagine what it will be like when they are totally in control.
I lived in Germany for 3 years....they have National Healthcare....ask yourself this....
Are you willing to have to wait up to a year or two years for elective procedures....some of which like joint replacement, hernia repair and even gallbladder removal can be extremely painful during that two years that you are on the list? And during that two years, because you are in constant pain and complaining about it the government will keep you well supplied with cheap opiates so that by the time you get your surgery you are a hopeless junky who needs rehab..
Are you willing to stay in a ward of 10 or 12 patients in one room every time you are admitted to the hospital with severely limited visiting by family and friends?
Are you willing to be refused certain medical treatment because you are too old, i.e. "you're over 65....no dialysis for you."
Grandma is 80, who cares if she was active until she broke her hip and dancing the polka with her friends....she's too old to waste money on her hip replacement.
This baby is too premature to be given care....so we will just leave it in room air and let it die....it doesn't meet the weight guidelines
This man is 85....he's too old to get any treatment for his cancer...even for pain relief..
I could go on forever....but the fact remains that he who controls the money has the power. The insurance companies have tried to dictate to physicians and limit care....tell your physician what drugs to prescribe. The federal government has come out with laws which limit THEIR power. An example is when Insurance companies were requiring women who had c-sections to go home the same day of surgery....the government stepped in and said they could not do that....the same with mastectomy....if you do plastic surgery on the involved breast the insurance company has to make the other breast look the same....that is something they did not want to do.
However, what do you think is going to happen when the Government is making the rules. They will limit and dictate care worse than any private company would with no controls cause they are the only ones in charge.
The American people will not put up with waiting years to get an MRI or a CT scan.....being refused diagnostic tests because they are too expensive....staying in large wards instead of private rooms. If you don't believe me, ask anyone that has lived with nationalized healthcare and now lives in the U.S. They will tell you U.S. healthcare is the best there is.
As far as computerized records are concerned....that is something that will come on its own time, and is definitely needed. Doctors are not fighting it, it is just slow in organizing everyone to be on the same page. Remember with computerized records there comes the danger of losing medical privacy. However, Obama has jumped on this one silly little thing like it is a cure all. It's not.
There needs to be an avenue for the uninsured to get healthcare and an incentive for employers to offer healthcare and a cap on lawsuits so that doctors don't have to practice medicine to cover themselves from lawsuits, which when done does cost more money. Nationalized healthcare and especially any plan that is based on a Socialist concept will not work and Americans will be so, so sorry they let it happen, and there will be no going back.
RebeccaI finished Tom Friedman's "Hot,Flat, &Crowded" last month and I am currently looking....I v'e read about five books on the Iraq war but now I think I will buy the newest John Grisham book...Time for some fun reading.:)
Good point Uruly8i, my wife was telling me about a young lady being turned away for not having the $62 for mammogram. I think we will pay a higher cost in a long run for not adopting a preventive care health care system that is affordable for all.People keep pointing to the Canadian system with their one-sided personal horror stories as if we are incapable of learning from the flaws of their system and improve upon them.Health care reform is long overdue and we need to find a way to take the high cost of health care out of our trade negotiations….If the private sector finds a way; then by all means adopt it. We have sit on our hands long enough letting the naysayers control the argument with their pessimistic views. As Obama said on the campaign about the lobbyist,” we will let them have a chair at the table just not all the chairs.”The usual culprits like Drudge, Rush, and Fox are trying to demonize the upcoming hearings on healthcare by saying” The recovery package will have the government “monitor treatments” in order to “‘guide’ your doctor’s decisions by the government…This is a lie ….All it does is provide an investment in health IT that would allow doctors to “switch over from those paper records that most of them use to electronic records.The right does not have to like electronic records but they don’t have to lie to the members in their party.
Mike, what are you reading?
At least your friend's mother was diagnosed. Here, if she didn't have health insurance, she would have waited too long, ended up in a county ER. Who do you think ultimately pays for those who can't affored heath care in the US? If Canadians want better health care they can still pay for supplemental insurance and get better access. At least they have access to basic care which can prevent more dire health circumstances. I'm still not convinced their plan is the right way to go, but I find our unaffordable heath care system is broken. I've worked in jobs that didn't provide heath insurance, and I could only afford coverage for my child. When it came to a choice between paying the rent and putting food on the table or paying a dentist to fix my sore tooth, guess what I chose?
By the way Mikey....why haven't you commented on my Blog regarding your hero's latest act of providing emergency aide to Palestinian refugees at our expense.
Mike....there is so much wrong with your little observation that I don't have the time and inclination to address them all.
For one let's s talk about my friend who is from Canada and is a nurse and whose mother was diagnosed with breast cancer, but because the breast cancer was not in a lymph node was placed on a waiting list for surgery....her daughter brought her here to have her cancer removed. Let's talk about 12 patient wards staffed with one R.N. and an aide. The health care system in Canada is broken big time; that is why we have so many Canadian nurses living in the U.S. and Canadian patients coming here for care.
Secondly, you didn't mention how much the Canadians pay in taxes. You think your taxes are high now, move to Canada.
Or better yet, just move to Canada period....you'd be back in 2 months begging for the American Way.