This week the local outrage was over H. R. 45 and Barack Obama’s policies. H.R. 45 is a gun bill that does not have any co-sponsors (factcheck.org) and like many before them, is just gathering dust in some committee room waiting to die. Some posters are concerned about the spending bills and “cap and trade” legislation that will tax the poor. The “Cap and Trade “legislation has not been debated, nor has it come up for a vote.
Many posters scream and holler about their second amendment rights being violated, yet they remain silent while the Bush administration was violating the 1ST and 4th amendment of the United States constitution….Selective constitutionalist.
This week Atty. General Eric Holder declassified and released the Bush secrete memos.
1) It allowed U.S. soldiers to search houses of suspected terrorist without a court approval warrant…………. In the UNITED STATES.
2) They could override constitutional protections guaranteeing the right of free speech.
3) Censoring the press was an option. (Were they listening to Joe the plumber?)
On January 15, 2009 principal deputy assistant Atty. General Stephen Bradbury covered his behind, by issuing a legal opinion, saying that the opinions of the office of legal counsel “should not be treated as a such for any purposes.”
From the period 2001 until January 15, 2009; we were under a dictatorship type of government for all intents and purposes.
The ACLU applauded the action of the Obama Administration but is asking for the release of all the secret memos related to interrogation, detention, surveillance, and other unconstitutional actions. Remember when the administration admitted that two interrogation tapes were missing,then destroyed? We now know it was 92 tapes that were destroyed.
Harriet Miers and Karl Rove testified behind closed doors today, a transcript was kept, and they were subject to a perjury charges but they were not under oath. What is it with republicans, not wanting to testify under oath? I see a pattern.
Barack Obama held the first of many health care summits to come, to discuss” What is not working.” He pledged to follow up and not let the much needed health care reform be ignored as it has for the last 30 years. 120 lawmakers were in attendance, were any of our three representatives present? Why not?
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Lol...Lot of cowering to big bad Limbaugh....:)
March 6, 2009 at 11:01 a.m.John
March 6, 2009 at 10:59 a.m.I am a simple man and I take one constitutional abuse case at a time and the ACLU is not making a profit by wanting documents to be unclassified.
Its is a double-edge sword if insinuations turn into reality I have already heard the case of presidential powers hard to give back, and that is the reason the ACLU wants all the documents to be declassified. That in turn will put the Obama administration in the spotlight to reverse positions or keep some and take the heat for doing so.
A scapegoat is one who is punished for the errors of others; in this case it was authorized by the Bush/Cheney administration .. This goes back to the Nixon White house where Cheney believed if the president does it, then it not wrong ..A lot more to it than love or hate of the Bush Administration.
My detractors will not make a comment on this subject because you really cant defend the indefensible They will try to marginalize me or change the subject to the ACLU etc.
Have a good one and thanks for commenting.
Don't know about Michael Steele, Mike, but I'm thinking of investing in knee pad producing comapnies.
March 6, 2009 at 10:18 a.m.Alton
March 6, 2009 at 7:26 a.m.My blog was not about the ACLU. It was mentioned to show that secret memos and other documents are still remaining to be declassified.
The stimulus bill was not a secret bill, because the Obama team reveled the majority of their proposal during the latter part of the campaign Obama said he was going to propose a $800 spending bill to jump start the economy .Staffers usually read the bills for the legislators anyway, this bill was passed by the house went over to the senate, back to committee and in two weeks everyone knew the major contents. The Advocate and all the major media reported on the contents. It has been over two weeks since it was passed and no one has found any secrets hidden in the bill .. You believed the talking points.
H.R. 45 is little to do about nothing Did you bother to go to factcheck. Org In this time of bank failures, housing problems, and foreign affairs that the legislators are going to take up a bill of no importance They would laughed out of town.
The United States does not lower itself to 9th century countries or methods. We do not torture and only solution is to find some legislators that support torture ,to amend the Constitution, if that is what you want.
Mike, just because a bill is in committee and has no sponsors or legislation has not been debated, does not mean it will not hidden in legislation later. After all the “Stimulus Bill” that was passed was not read by a single elected official, when it was passed. Maybe, you are comfortable with a blind vote on legislation, but I and many others are not.
March 5, 2009 at 10:40 p.m.If the ACLU wants documents, in my opinion, they are looking for a way to increase their revenues.
I hate the ACLU; I have seen them attack the religious rights of students in state dorms (no Christmas decorations in dorm rooms or dorm windows), demand the removal of historical markers with any reference to religion, and etc. They will fight “tooth and nail” for special treatment of individuals against the Constitution and the success of this country.
If anyone was just to look on the surface of the mission statement of the ACLU, "to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to every person in this country by the Constitution, and laws of the United States”, it is difficult to oppose an organization with this pro- Constitutuion statement. But everyone should look beyond the “community activities” front and at the two co-founders of the American Civil Liberties Union are Roger Baldwin and Crystal Eastwood, both confessed socialists. Roger Baldwin was on the record of over 100 Communist front affiliations.
Dr. Harry Ward, the first chairman of the ACLU, was linked to over 200 front affiliations of the Communist Party. And was the chairman of one of the largest front organizations in this country, “The American League for Peace and Democracy,” which was placed on a list of subversive organizations by the Attorney General of The United States on June 1, 1948.
I oppose the ACLU’s highhanded legal treats to local governments and school districts. During the Clinton administration legislation was passed that allowed attorneys in civil rights litigation to be paid by the court, even when they lost the case. It is not unusual for the ACLU to bill $800 per hour per lawyer on the case, hotel cost and expenses. These fees have bankrupted many local governments and caused major tax increases to taxpayers. So many school district boards and local governments back down to the demands of the ACLU.
I contend that once all the detainees are released, that we will once again see American hostages and beheading of American citizens by terrorist. But, I could be wrong.
Where are all these citizens, whose rights were violated by the Bush Administration?
Methinks you overstate the outrage, even on the local level. Been taking lessons from Obama?
March 5, 2009 at 9:12 p.m.Lol.....Karl Rowe is playing victim saying Democrats want him barbecued....While that may be true ,he does not get any sympathy because of the lives he ruined.
March 5, 2009 at 8:53 p.m.Will Michael Steele last another week?
"Harriet Miers and Karl Rove testified behind closed doors today, a transcript was kept, and they were subject to a perjury charges but they were not under oath. What is it with republicans, not wanting to testify under oath? I see a pattern."
March 5, 2009 at 8:07 p.m.Uhhh....I can't recall?
First of all John, they were not amendments, nor was it legislation.
March 5, 2009 at 4:24 p.m.The office of legal counsel is the legal sounding board for the president, where these memos came from….It was their legal interpretations of presidential powers.
Did you read the memo on January 15, 2009 (5 days before leaving office) disavowing all the secret memos…They knew they were wrong.
1) They should not only be criticized but the violators should be prosecuted. The lawyers that did the shoddy work should be disbarred.
2) Those memos are no longer in force
3) Did you read about the part about the ACLU wanting the rest of the documents?
4) Obama has already abolished the torture policy and will close Gitmo in one year.
5) I did say in a thread that Obama should not have voted yes on giving the Telecoms immunity while he was still running for office.
6) This investigation is just starting, so it is customary to blame the accused before placing blame on those not accused of any wrong doing.
Before quoting scripture, you should have your facts together because as we post:
WASHINGTON, DC – U.S. Senators Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Kit Bond (R-MO), Chairman and Vice Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, today announced that the Committee will review the CIA’s detention and interrogation program.
“The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence has agreed on a strong bipartisan basis to begin a review of the CIA’s detention and interrogation program. The purpose is to review the program and to shape detention and interrogation policies in the future. The review will include:
http://intelligence.senate.gov/press/...