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What do you get when you mix pirate porn, college students and an angry state senator?

One interesting article from the Washington Post, is what.

It seems Maryland senator Andrew Harris wants to cut off state funding to the University of Maryland should the school go through with allowing students to show the pornographic movie "Pirates II: Stagnetti's Revenge" on the campus.

From the article: "Millree Williams, a university spokesman, released a statement this afternoon saying that 'on their own, student groups moved to create a discussion event during which they planned to screen excerpts from a pornographic film and to explore issues surrounding the place and implications of pornography and constitutionally protected free speech in our community.'"

Harris, on the other hand, responded with this: "I know some students would like to portray this as a free speech issue. It is not. This is about the use of taxpayer dollars, and the Maryland General Assembly acts every day on issues concerning the use of taxpayer dollars. Just because someone is on a college campus they do not have a right to spend the hard-earned money of Maryland's taxpayers on something as detrimental to our society as hard-core XXX pornography."

Whew! Boy howdy! I have a feeling this is going to get uglier before it blows over. Personally I'm always a big advocate of free speech. But over porn? That's a bit trickier.

I guess it all depends on the kind of porn (did I mention that "Pirates II" is a two-and-a-half-hour, big-budget film that features buccaneers, sea monsters and orgies?).

Any other thoughts on this out there in cyberland?


Comments


  • "Caligula"? That takes me back....if memory serves Gore Vidal did the screenplay. Roddy McDowell back in the day.

    Best I can tell Netflix has both...they'll deliver it discretely to your door in a red & white envelope.

    April 10, 2009 at 6:35 a.m.

  • Has anybody actually seen the uncut "Pirates II"? If so, is it as good as the old movie "Caligula"?

    April 9, 2009 at 2:51 p.m.

  • The version availible on Amazon is also rated R but it is entirely possible the backdoor pegleg parrot sequence has been omitted.

    Apparently DVD sales have skyrocketed after the U of Maryland Administration prematurely withdrew the film...can't find a definitive number but sales appears to be $50 mill+.

    The "moral" and the entertainment deprived have both been well served.

    Is this a great country or what?

    April 9, 2009 at 2:43 p.m.

  • Violence vs porn?

    Simple, most people are not inspired to commit violence by watching it in a move. However, sex...

    April 9, 2009 at 12:52 p.m.

  • Sex in and of itself is great, as long as it’s in the privacy of your own (or someone elses,whichever)bedroom, kitchen ,patio(if enclosed)But sex and war are not the same thing. Graphic sex is not a spectator sport. It should be between 2 consenting adults.(notice I didn’t say a man and a woman. Their chose not mine) .War is a failure of governments to be able to mind their own business. It’s gross,bloody,nasty smelling and a waste of good people. But it’s not sex. But because this form of freedom of speech is protected(as it should be) we must continue to understand it and deal with it. But just because we (or in this case I) think it must be protected from government intervention, We are also allowed to think it distasteful if viewed by an audience .

    April 9, 2009 at 12:50 p.m.

  • WWW, very interesting point. My friends and I were just talking about that very subject last night. Why is violence more okay than sex or nudity in today's society?
    Take the movie "The Watchman" for instance. When I went to see it in the theaters, there were some parents who took rather young children (I'm guessing around 8 and 9) to see the movie. They were fine when people were getting killed and beat up, but when the sex scene came on, I saw one parent take their children and leave in a huff.
    Personally, I think the kids were too young anyway to watch that sort of graphic movie but I was confused when they were only offended that their kids caught sight of a woman's naked chest. But having hot oil poured on someone's face, well, that's just fine and dandy apparently.

    April 9, 2009 at 12:46 p.m.

  • Gansoblanco..."IDMb shows an "R" rating for this film:

    "Rated R for sexual content/nudity, language and some violence"

    I'm thinkin' this ISN'T the version being shown at the college. I believe that if you compare the two, you'll find that the "R" version has some uhhhh, deletions. The good one isn't rated "R".

    Roy...why is porn a distasteful subject? I watched a really good movie the other night. "Saving Private Ryan" is also rated "R" but it's because of images of people being killed in very graphic, violent ways. Limbs are blown off, soldiers are burned and blown up. Bullets strikes are shown as close-up images. It's an excellent movie showing the horrors of war, and, for its intended audience, shouldn't cause any upsets.

    Most porn is non-violent but graphic in sexual content. For its intended audience, it should cause no upsets. I've never understood why graphic violence -- "The Wild Bunch", "Private Ryan", etc. is not only okay, but celebrated with adademy award nominations, but a graphic display of sex is somehow considered dirty and taboo.

    I've never killed anyone, but I can't imagine it would be as much fun as sex. Why are we, as a society, so wierded out by depictions of the joys of recreational sex but seem to be perfectly okay with portrayals of violent death.

    April 9, 2009 at 11:58 a.m.

  • IDMb shows an "R" rating for this film:

    "Rated R for sexual content/nudity, language and some violence"

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1266097/

    April 9, 2009 at 11 a.m.

  • Even a distastful subject like porn must be discussed to be understood. To be able to Intelligently discuss such a subject then you first know your subject. With porn, viewing the film first would (I think) be required. I didn’t understand Nazism(still really don’t, but have better understanding)until I read Mein Kamf ( I know miss spelled). But at least it gave me the ability to be able to discuss it . I would hope that it’s (the viewing)not just to get students horny,but to give them an understanding of what porn is. I don’t think the old saying”I don’t know what porn is,But I’ll know it when I see it” is good enough in this day and age. Students coming out of college should have a well rounded education and knowing about porn and other distasteful subjects are a part of that education

    April 9, 2009 at 10:21 a.m.

  • roberttx..."i really need more information on what kind of porn we're talking about here before making judgement"

    It's the good stuff. Big budget; real acting; real sets; could be shown on television -- probably would have a few cuts though. High quality stuff.

    April 8, 2009 at 4:43 p.m.

  • i really need more information on what kind of porn we're talking about here before making judgement

    April 8, 2009 at 4:28 p.m.

  • I think I remember from the first time I heard about this that the college wanted to run th film to try to keep the kids from going off campus, drinking and possibly getting into trouble or maybe having a wreck. It wasn't intended as a project for a grade. I'll say, though, that this beats hell out of Beowulf or some Shakespear sonnets.

    April 8, 2009 at 4:04 p.m.

  • wait, im not getting why they'd want to show it in the first place...didnt the first one have jenna jameson in it?

    April 8, 2009 at 3:25 p.m.

  • I'm sure this guy would have no problem using taxpayer money if a college group wanted to host an organized religious service - which some might say is even more detrimental to society than pornography.

    April 8, 2009 at 2:56 p.m.