Once we learn that we are not the end all be all, maybe all of the religions and beliefs can work together to solve problems instead of whizzing in the wind.

What time we have is not measured in minutes, days or years. It is measured in how we invest them. Peace is the return on investment.

Now that is something that I would download if you have an "app"..

Nova had a presentation on DNA, chromosomes, and genes. It was about a group of scientists who were investigating how DNA could produce the same bird species with two completely different beaks even though the birds had the same genes. They found that there are genes that do nothing but switch other genes on and off. The difference in beaks resulted from that particular gene being switch on a day later and that’s what produced the short thick beak as opposed to a longer slender beak – yep genes can tell time.

The scientists were astounded at their discovery that DNA and genes function like mini computers switching on and off little sub-programs to produce different body parts. It is inconceivable that this can occur without some guiding hand, that these “life” programs can run on their own reproducing the same result over and over with few errors. If there is no God then there should be because this is truly a miracle like many of the other unexplained wonders of nature.

Religion tries to explain what hasn’t or can’t be explain. Secondly religion for some reason feels compelled to share their beliefs and have others believe what they believe – that’s also true of atheists. We are all in this together a swirling cosmic vapor of invention – peace.

Borg,

I was thinking more big picture. If our inner being has memory maybe we will find out the "truth out there". If I go first I will e-mail everyone if I get work.

Vet 43,
No doubt when we die, we become one with all the elements of the earth--eventually--rather like Walt Whitman describing grass as "the beautiful uncut hair of graves."

Rather than wonder about God maybe we should wonder about man. Matter can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only be changed. The energy that keeps our minds twisting in the wind goes somewhere when we die. I prefer to believe that we become one with all.

True enough sickntired, science never is finished, it is ever searching for more facts, more explanations--more truth. Again that makes it different than religion which claims to know all the answers because TIGITS told them so, and therefore brooks no criticism, or argument, because they HAVE the truth already--TIGITS made the earth, there is everlasting life after death etc.

Hmmm intersting viewpoint but let me postulate an opposing theorum about TIGITS. Although science has proven that there are many "explainable" phenomena in our universe, there are still plenty that are unexplained. Some of the things science has proven, mainly through archeology is that many of the accounts,people,places and happenings that are recorded in the Bible are in fact true. There are many wondrous medical advancements that help people live longer,fuller, better lives...... there are also a staggering number of accounts where medical "miracles" are happening daily that science and medicine just can't explain. Although I don't have a cool avatar of Picqard as a borg, I am also a "Trekkie" and "Gater" , those "science fiction" shows, both have numerous characters and episodes where they are investigating either "humanities" or another sentient life forms faith in TIGITS and there by their own "faith" is called into question, and by episode end it has usually been re-affirmed. For every "miracle" in life, Believers can produce, there are an equal number of (injustices, unanswered prayers, natural phenomena) that Non-believers can list. Science has ever changing "truths", (the celocanthe is extinct,Pluto is a planet). So my opposing theory is......Would it be such a stretch of imagination that at sometime in the future, science could "prove" that there was an external "force" (my own version of TIGITS) that started all of this(whatever this is) with the "BIG BANG"??

I prefer to believe that God exists and then find out He doesn't - rather than say and believe God does not exist and then find out He does.

Man is imperfect - no doubt - and I don't have an explanation as to why we have the imperfections - but I look forward to my eternal life - with the perfect back.

Vet 43,
I understand your perspective. Some believe that religion and science pertain to non-overlapping domains. However the problem I have with that view comes from the truth that both religion and science claim to explain the nature of reality. Religion says that it is product of some supernatural person or persons' work. Science says that it is all the product of natural forces that can be ultimately explained by empirical inquiry. And while I would be the last to dispute the wonder of the natural world, if it was "designed" by TIGITS, he, she, it or they, did a poor job. Think about your back. It is not the best design for an upright primate--witness all the folks with back problems of various kinds. So while I respect your perspective, I don't see religion--at least as currently configured--and science being able to co-exist for ever. At some point religion--and TIGITS--will be revealed for what they are, fairy tale mythology.

I may be in a minority, but I see no reason to separate God from science. In fact just the opposite. I suggest folks go the the Hubble Telescope web site and look into the heart of God. Magnificent.

We are such a nanospec on the universe's windshield. Some times we forget that our lifespan is determined more by where you are when than what you believe. How you embrace your fellow man counts more than any coins in the plate on Sunday. Our prodigy will measure us by what we build more than what we destroy.

Thanks Pat.

Yes, I know that there are few things a true believer can tolerate less, than someone who is paying attention to the man behind the curtain.

Good post. BUT watch out for the Pitchfork&Torch club gathering in a yard near you!
Patrick Barnes