The "fun fact" was actually from the Bloomberg article. I just thought it was interesting that any form of frack fluid was allowed to be released into streams. And from what I understand, and I'm the first to say that I know there is a lot still to be learned about the many facets of this process, but water treatment plants are designed to filter out human waste. They aren't necessarily set up to pull out the kinds of chemicals found in fracking fluid. Pennsylvania doesn't allow that kind of frack fluid disposal anymore. Here's the release from the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection on the change in policy:
To click on the link of the actual study makes for long reading, but facts are facts. Take a half hour and read the study itself. This is not environmentalists spewing...it's scientists and veterinary professionals.
Flowback can be cleaned up and used over and over instead of being discharged into rivers and streams, whether it be through municipal discharge or flat-out illegal dumping, or disposed of underground. Pennsylvania, unlike Texas, does not have an apparent shortage of water. However, steps are being taken to condition the wastewater for discharge today. It's a learning process.
“Also, fun fact, up until recently Pennsylvania drillers could just dump fracking fluids into nearby streams when it was all used up. Because, you know, nobody uses streams.”
Can you cite a reference for this “fun fact” or proof of any kind that dumping directly into a stream has occurred? I doubt it, because I think what you are referring to is that fluids have been released into streams AFTER they have gone through a sewage treatment plant and then released along with all the other municipal sewage that has been treated.
The link below lists the components that are added to fracking liquids they are mostly household items many are used in cosmetics. I know hysteria makes good news reporting but nothing will create more hysteria than running out of energy, particularly natural gas.
Truckload after truckload of waste water is transported to Ohio or to recycle plants withIn PA. Sorry, but the last statement is incorrect, or at minimum,. embellished. There was at least one spillage, a second one later was confirmed to be caused by vandalism. There well could have been some dumping at the onset, solely because no one knew to look for it. PA has had more that it's fair share of water table contamination- but not due from dumping. It has occurred in the process of the actual fracking downhole.
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The "fun fact" was actually from the Bloomberg article.
I just thought it was interesting that any form of frack fluid was allowed to be released into streams. And from what I understand, and I'm the first to say that I know there is a lot still to be learned about the many facets of this process, but water treatment plants are designed to filter out human waste. They aren't necessarily set up to pull out the kinds of chemicals found in fracking fluid. Pennsylvania doesn't allow that kind of frack fluid disposal anymore.
Here's the release from the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection on the change in policy:
http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/...
Thanks for all of y'all's input. It's such a complicated issue, and I'm the first to say I still have a lot to learn.
February 7, 2012 at 2:10 p.m.Just a tidbit of information...Cornell University study http://ecowatch.org/2012/cornell-stud...
To click on the link of the actual study makes for long reading, but facts are facts. Take a half hour and read the study itself. This is not environmentalists spewing...it's scientists and veterinary professionals.
February 5, 2012 at 8:27 p.m.Flowback can be cleaned up and used over and over instead of being discharged into rivers and streams, whether it be through municipal discharge or flat-out illegal dumping, or disposed of underground. Pennsylvania, unlike Texas, does not have an apparent shortage of water. However, steps are being taken to condition the wastewater for discharge today. It's a learning process.
February 5, 2012 at 9:32 a.m.A question about your “fun fact.”
“Also, fun fact, up until recently Pennsylvania drillers could just dump fracking fluids into nearby streams when it was all used up. Because, you know, nobody uses streams.”
Can you cite a reference for this “fun fact” or proof of any kind that dumping directly into a stream has occurred? I doubt it, because I think what you are referring to is that fluids have been released into streams AFTER they have gone through a sewage treatment plant and then released along with all the other municipal sewage that has been treated.
The link below lists the components that are added to fracking liquids they are mostly household items many are used in cosmetics. I know hysteria makes good news reporting but nothing will create more hysteria than running out of energy, particularly natural gas.
http://geology.com/energy/hydraulic-f...
February 5, 2012 at 7:44 a.m.Truckload after truckload of waste water is transported to Ohio or to recycle plants withIn PA. Sorry, but the last statement is incorrect, or at minimum,. embellished. There was at least one spillage, a second one later was confirmed to be caused by vandalism.
February 5, 2012 at 3:41 a.m.There well could have been some dumping at the onset, solely because no one knew to look for it.
PA has had more that it's fair share of water table contamination- but not due from dumping. It has occurred in the process of the actual fracking downhole.