Yes, still fighting, especially for those who won't admitt the disease for themselves due to embarassment and harrassment by those that think they don't have any insanity or addiction. If the people who look down on addicts and insanity, that have these issues in themselves. God Bless and pray for all. Thank the medical industry for all they do against all odds. Stll fighting? Yes, forever by all human beings. It's a disease that can be controlled.
The lack of knowledge about mental illness and addiction is quite obvious due to some of the commenters. These people destroy the chance and harass those who would get help if the didn't have to put up with people like, "Pilot", who obviously enjoys putting people down to his level so he can feel equal and better about himself. 75 years ago a 12 step support group was started by a Stockbroker Bill W. from New York who visited an Alcholic Doctor Bob in Akron, Ohio Hospital where the doctor was left to die of his terminally-ill disease of Alcholism. This was 1935, in June of 1936(my birth year) they formed a business enity and for no charge except donations began to help mentally ill people who had the disease of Alcoholism which is in-curable per medical doctors and the AMA. The AMA(AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION) designated Alcoholism a disease which is incurable by the medical profession unless they use that Step program in Hospitals and self designated groups called Alcoholics Anonymous whose "primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to recover from the disease". Most drinkers who drink anytype alcohol at any given time and can't stop after two drinks, regular size, have a drinking problem. See your family doctor, but be aware all Doctors are not edified on Alcholism and its disease concept. AA and medical recovery programs has tests to help determine this. find a Meeting in phone book and began saving your life, family lives, workers lives and other non-drinkers on the road. DAILY. I stopped drinking through the program of AA 35 years ago. I am degreed in engineering, business,was Executive Director of Technical- Purchasing/Contracts, worked in aviation and airline industry, sober, and am now retired. Ala-non will find relieve for non-drinking spouse and help them to deal with a drinking spouse.
It is obvious that communities be educated about mental illness. There is a TRUE lack of knowledge. I worked in the mental health for over twenty years. I worked with people who had all types of mental illness. Yes they came to the clinic, saw the doctor, took meds, saw their case workers and interacted in group therapy and had great family support. But the slightest thing that went wrong could casue them to decompensate rapidly. I had a young man asked if I was scared doing my job and I said No I wasnt. I was more scared of some of the people on streets that should get the help but don't. Now days its too easy to hit the bottle or get the illegal stuff and hide behide that. I hope and pray that there will eventually be a cure or control of this but until then everyone needs to be open minded. There is a rainbow after the rain. Frances G GREAT comment
Every day there are people who qualify as mentaly ill due to the willingness to HATE others who disagree with them or there views or not having their way in contradictory positions taken against them. I know the anger that drive people mentally-ill because they cannot give Justice from their heart due to their egomaniacal attitude(praying while condeming other God's people with God-given defects) and religious hollier-than-thouness, do not have Temperance, or enough Wisdom, or Tolerance for differences and look down on others who were born with addictions, deformities, as an another race or religion. If its God's desire for every person to be useful by loving and forgiving as Jesus Christ, which then can cure our defects in our character which put people into a accepted state of health: mentaly, physicaly and spiritually. Isn't the above sending us all to Hell here on earth. When we all forgive and overcome anger, pride, greed, gluttony, envy, lust, and slot, Jesus Christ said the Kingdom of Heaven is here and now, and forever into death eternal. I know of this because off negative comments about my God give body and mind. Some even criticize to your face when they are intoxicated and envious to the point of a chemical embalance.
There was a article in the Houston Chronicle last week by the Harris county jail administrator.
He claims that almost half of the jail population is on medication for a variety of mental illness that cost the county $27M a year.
He also said it costs the county $138 each to house prisoners with mental health issues and a outside agency could do the same for $12 each a day. (I don't know about that one.)
Anyway, he went on to say that by numbers of persons in the jail needing mental health care, that unfortunately, the Harris County Jail is the largest mental health care institution in the State of Texas.
Unfortunately, mental illness is such a wide ranging area. To just say "mental illness", is somewhat akin to suggesting that all people are in the hospital only because they "feel sick" ......
Currently, there are a wide range of facilities designed to help people "cope" with mental illness, but there is very little out there that helps find cures .....
Until the general population recognizes and understands that some mental illness is quite real and not self inflicted, then we are going to continue to see things such as what happened in Tucson and Ft. Hood .....
Are there fruit cakes out there that need to be locked up like animals? You bet there are, of course .....
Does everyone suffering from mental illness deserve to be treated this same way? not unless we, as a society are ready to treat even minor shoplifters of pencils with the same harshness and hardened violent criminals .... and I hope to God that is never, else we lower ourselves to the level of those same killers ....
Not everyone needs to be locked up. Monitor the meds, and make sure they are on the right meds, is very important. Seeking help, and staying with it, helps the person in need of mental help, and the family. Just because they have a mental issues, does not mean they need to be locked away. A lot of times that makes it worse. Loving friends and family is the key to health. Not babing them, just really making sure they are taken care of, and loved. Just wonder if I was me, if anyone would really care, and take care of me, in a civil manner.
National Alliance on Mental Illness does so much for families affected with mental illness especially in the Victoria Area. If you are seeking help for a person with mental illness or have mental illness please refer to our website http://namivictoria.org/. We have biweekly support group meetings and classes for families to educate about mental illness.
I am a person with mental illness and lead a support group in Victoria for the National Alliance on Mental Illness. People with mental illness suffer from a chemical imbalance in the brain. Some make mistakes and go to jail, but the person is still mentall ill whether a crime was committed or not. Mental healthcare needs improvement and people with mental illness in their families need to seek NAMI's help in their community.
take it from a family that has had to deal with an insane person who threatened us and played games; people who are obviously mental should be locked up! Just because it is "not against the law" to be insane doesn't mean that people with mental issues should be allowed to continue to harrass, stalk, disrupt, and get away with sub criminal behaivor!
The problem with mental cases is that they have a huge habit of showing all the signs of going postal, know it, but purposefully remain isolated or protected by family who coddle them until it's too late! Once someone is diagnosed they should be hospitalized and treated. If it's a life long issue like bipolar, schizophrenea, etc., they should remain locked up or under constant supervision, as the past 2K years of western civilization had done.
Bring back the mental institutions!!! Society would be alot safer.
In the 1970s we emptied out the State Mental Health hospitals with the assurance that the people would be discharged to local mental health centers where they would be cared for in the midst of a community of family and friends. Instead, a majority of these were discharged to the streets and the promised care never developed much beyond the promise. Now, mental health services, like other health care has been rolled up into the for-profit health care business. Those who cannot afford the fees simply get shuffled to venues ill equipped to help them.
We need to better educate the public about mental health issues and we need to accept that its out there and it happens...to the best of families. The sad thing is that many are in denial and won't seek help, making it hard on the medical professionals to diagnose and treat. "they slip through the cracks and get found when something bad happens." One thing to remember the one who has the illness has to want the help and get it and follow through with doctor visits, counseling and/or medications. Family and friends should be aware of the signs and symptoms. One day there will be a better understanding of this.
As long as the fear and stigma keep people from talking openly about the needs and the real numbers, things won't change much. Mental illness is underfunded, misunderstood, and shoved from the headlines until tragedy occurs. I've seen parents beg for help for a child with mental illness only to have the system keep them from getting any help. I've seen patients with mental illness beg for help and equality in paying for medications, physicians, etc. No one wants to change how we deal with mental illness or spend money on it until these things happen. Then, in a few months it will be forgotten and nothing will have changed once more. We need "a little less talk and a lot more action." We close local assistance, and will we one day wonder in our area 'how this happened?' Wish it would be a wake up call, but truth be told, nothing will change until talk turns into action.
Mental health issues in this country are NOT treated worth a d--n. For some reason the general attitude of people who are not affected is that folks that have a mental problem , the problem is self inflicted and can be self cured. Until this attitude changes the problems like we witnessed in Tuscon will go on and on.
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Yes, still fighting, especially for those who won't admitt the disease for themselves due to embarassment and harrassment by those that think they don't have any insanity or addiction. If the people who look down on addicts and insanity, that have these issues in themselves. God Bless and pray for all. Thank the medical industry for all they do against all odds. Stll fighting? Yes, forever by all human beings. It's a disease that can be controlled.
March 14, 2011 at 11 a.m."Still fighting mental health"
March 12, 2011 at 11:59 a.m.The lack of knowledge about mental illness and addiction is quite obvious due to some of the commenters. These people destroy the chance and harass those who would get help if the didn't have to put up with people like, "Pilot", who obviously enjoys putting people down to his level so he can feel equal and better about himself. 75 years ago a 12 step support group was started by a Stockbroker Bill W. from New York who visited an Alcholic Doctor Bob in Akron, Ohio Hospital where the doctor was left to die of his terminally-ill disease of Alcholism. This was 1935, in June of 1936(my birth year) they formed a business enity and for no charge except donations began to help mentally ill people who had the disease of Alcoholism which is in-curable per medical doctors and the AMA. The AMA(AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION) designated Alcoholism a disease which is incurable by the medical profession unless they use that Step program in Hospitals and self designated groups called Alcoholics Anonymous whose "primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to recover from the disease". Most drinkers who drink anytype alcohol at any given time and can't stop after two drinks, regular size, have a drinking problem. See your family doctor, but be aware all Doctors are not edified on Alcholism and its disease concept. AA and medical recovery programs has tests to help determine this. find a Meeting in phone book and began saving your life, family lives, workers lives and other non-drinkers on the road. DAILY. I stopped drinking through the program of AA 35 years ago. I am degreed in engineering, business,was Executive Director of Technical- Purchasing/Contracts, worked in aviation and airline industry, sober, and am now retired. Ala-non will find relieve for non-drinking spouse and help them to deal with a drinking spouse.
March 12, 2011 at 10:04 a.m.It is obvious that communities be educated about mental illness. There is a TRUE lack of knowledge. I worked in the mental health for over twenty years. I worked with people who had all types of mental illness. Yes they came to the clinic, saw the doctor, took meds, saw their case workers and interacted in group therapy and had great family support. But the slightest thing that went wrong could casue them to decompensate rapidly. I had a young man asked if I was scared doing my job and I said No I wasnt. I was more scared of some of the people on streets that should get the help but don't. Now days its too easy to hit the bottle or get the illegal stuff and hide behide that. I hope and pray that there will eventually be a cure or control of this but until then everyone needs to be open minded. There is a rainbow after the rain. Frances G GREAT comment
February 21, 2011 at 1:56 p.m.Every day there are people who qualify as mentaly ill due to the willingness to HATE others who disagree with them or there views or not having their way in contradictory positions taken against them. I know the anger that drive people mentally-ill because they cannot give Justice from their heart due to their egomaniacal attitude(praying while condeming other God's people with God-given defects) and religious hollier-than-thouness, do not have Temperance, or enough Wisdom, or Tolerance for differences and look down on others who were born with addictions, deformities, as an another race or religion. If its God's desire for every person to be useful by loving and forgiving as Jesus Christ, which then can cure our defects in our character which put people into a accepted state of health: mentaly, physicaly and spiritually. Isn't the above sending us all to Hell here on earth. When we all forgive and overcome anger, pride, greed, gluttony, envy, lust, and slot, Jesus Christ said the Kingdom of Heaven is here and now, and forever into death eternal. I know of this because off negative comments about my God give body and mind. Some even criticize to your face when they are intoxicated and envious to the point of a chemical embalance.
February 9, 2011 at 1:47 p.m.Oops, I wasn't exactly right with the numbers and such... heres the link..
http://blogs.chron.com/houstonpolitic...
February 6, 2011 at 4:53 p.m.There was a article in the Houston Chronicle last week by the Harris county jail administrator.
He claims that almost half of the jail population is on medication for a variety of mental illness that cost the county $27M a year.
He also said it costs the county $138 each to house prisoners with mental health issues and a outside agency could do the same for $12 each a day. (I don't know about that one.)
Anyway, he went on to say that by numbers of persons in the jail needing mental health care, that unfortunately, the Harris County Jail is the largest mental health care institution in the State of Texas.
Scary huh?
February 6, 2011 at 4:48 p.m.Unfortunately, mental illness is such a wide ranging area. To just say "mental illness", is somewhat akin to suggesting that all people are in the hospital only because they "feel sick" ......
Currently, there are a wide range of facilities designed to help people "cope" with mental illness, but there is very little out there that helps find cures .....
Until the general population recognizes and understands that some mental illness is quite real and not self inflicted, then we are going to continue to see things such as what happened in Tucson and Ft. Hood .....
Are there fruit cakes out there that need to be locked up like animals? You bet there are, of course .....
Does everyone suffering from mental illness deserve to be treated this same way? not unless we, as a society are ready to treat even minor shoplifters of pencils with the same harshness and hardened violent criminals .... and I hope to God that is never, else we lower ourselves to the level of those same killers ....
February 6, 2011 at 3:40 p.m.Not everyone needs to be locked up. Monitor the meds, and make sure they are on the right meds, is very important. Seeking help, and staying with it, helps the person in need of mental help, and the family. Just because they have a mental issues, does not mean they need to be locked away. A lot of times that makes it worse. Loving friends and family is the key to health. Not babing them, just really making sure they are taken care of, and loved.
February 3, 2011 at 7:52 p.m.Just wonder if I was me, if anyone would really care, and take care of me, in a civil manner.
National Alliance on Mental Illness does so much for families affected with mental illness especially in the Victoria Area. If you are seeking help for a person with mental illness or have mental illness please refer to our website http://namivictoria.org/. We have biweekly support group meetings and classes for families to educate about mental illness.
February 3, 2011 at 7:12 p.m.I am a person with mental illness and lead a support group in Victoria for the National Alliance on Mental Illness. People with mental illness suffer from a chemical imbalance in the brain. Some make mistakes and go to jail, but the person is still mentall ill whether a crime was committed or not. Mental healthcare needs improvement and people with mental illness in their families need to seek NAMI's help in their community.
February 3, 2011 at 7:06 p.m.btw, as an attorney told our family, "sometimes we don't want people like this in our jails. They actually become worse."
That says it all.
January 26, 2011 at 10:29 a.m.take it from a family that has had to deal with an insane person who threatened us and played games; people who are obviously mental should be locked up! Just because it is "not against the law" to be insane doesn't mean that people with mental issues should be allowed to continue to harrass, stalk, disrupt, and get away with sub criminal behaivor!
The problem with mental cases is that they have a huge habit of showing all the signs of going postal, know it, but purposefully remain isolated or protected by family who coddle them until it's too late! Once someone is diagnosed they should be hospitalized and treated. If it's a life long issue like bipolar, schizophrenea, etc., they should remain locked up or under constant supervision, as the past 2K years of western civilization had done.
Bring back the mental institutions!!! Society would be alot safer.
January 26, 2011 at 10:24 a.m.The last comment said it truthfully. Lets hope that our government leaders can make positive changes and KEEP them
January 24, 2011 at 2:08 p.m.In the 1970s we emptied out the State Mental Health hospitals with the assurance that the people would be discharged to local mental health centers where they would be cared for in the midst of a community of family and friends. Instead, a majority of these were discharged to the streets and the promised care never developed much beyond the promise. Now, mental health services, like other health care has been rolled up into the for-profit health care business. Those who cannot afford the fees simply get shuffled to venues ill equipped to help them.
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January 24, 2011 at 3:01 a.m.We need to better educate the public about mental health issues and we need to accept that its out there and it happens...to the best of families. The sad thing is that many are in denial and won't seek help, making it hard on the medical professionals to diagnose and treat. "they slip through the cracks and get found when something bad happens." One thing to remember the one who has the illness has to want the help and get it and follow through with doctor visits, counseling and/or medications. Family and friends should be aware of the signs and symptoms. One day there will be a better understanding of this.
January 20, 2011 at 9:26 a.m.As long as the fear and stigma keep people from talking openly about the needs and the real numbers, things won't change much. Mental illness is underfunded, misunderstood, and shoved from the headlines until tragedy occurs. I've seen parents beg for help for a child with mental illness only to have the system keep them from getting any help. I've seen patients with mental illness beg for help and equality in paying for medications, physicians, etc. No one wants to change how we deal with mental illness or spend money on it until these things happen. Then, in a few months it will be forgotten and nothing will have changed once more. We need "a little less talk and a lot more action." We close local assistance, and will we one day wonder in our area 'how this happened?' Wish it would be a wake up call, but truth be told, nothing will change until talk turns into action.
January 19, 2011 at 3:30 p.m.Seems like it was common knowledge he had some mental problems. But we certainly need better mental health care in the US.
January 16, 2011 at 7:12 p.m.pilot , Typical comment from one who knows not what he is talking about !!
January 16, 2011 at 11:37 a.m.Mental health issues in this country are NOT treated worth a d--n. For some reason the general attitude of people who are not affected is that folks that have a mental problem , the problem is self inflicted and can be self cured. Until this attitude changes the problems like we witnessed in Tuscon will go on and on.
January 15, 2011 at 10:18 a.m.