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  • Nah, BigJ, you'd lose an election for your views, not your skin tone.
    I got asked this question regarding race several weeks ago, but not related to the Presidential Election, just society in general.  Here is the best answer I got.
    If you are white, anyone darker than you is either Black or Hispanic.
    If you are Black, you can be a Hispanic Black in the North, Central, or South America. Or you can be plane Black.
    If you have a spanish last name, you are Hispanic regardless of skin tone or part of the world you come from. Nacogdoches, or Cuidad Victoria. Red haired and freckled, or dark Black. You're Hispanic.
    If you come from a spanish speaking country, but your last name is not spanish, you can not be Hispanic. Vincente Fox was not Hispanic.
    Anyone else see how little sense this BS makes?

    July 12, 2008 at 11:51 p.m.

  • Lot of good comments and true observations here.
    I worked in EEO enforcement of federal laws for many years. After almost half a century since passage of  the Civil Rights Act and Title VII, progress is still woefully inadequate. I think Obama categorizes himself as "black" for two reasons. First, we have never as a society disposed of the concept that any black blood whatsoever made a person "black". This was recognized as fact in the days of slavery and the concept is still very much alive today.
    Secondly, it is just plain more cool to be black today than any other race. At the start of the Civil Rights Act enforcement, people were pointedly asked their race and/or heritage. Actually, there are white, black, Indian and a mixture of all races in the Hispanic population. Used to be the category was "Spanish surnamed American". Some Americans, believe it or not, legally changed their names to Spanish recognized names to qualify as a minority. Now a visual determination of someone's race is made for most purposes, and self designation is requested, but not mandatory. Let's face reality though. It is easier to get public assistance if you identify as a minority.
    At one time, companies were challenged for hiring only "light skinned" blacks and Hispanics. If the choice came down to Jesse Jackson and Barack Obama, enforcement types would have questioned not going with Jesse, all other factors being equal.
    I have been amazed at the finger pointing toward the Clinton camp when any utterance that sounded racial was used by the Obama side to slam them against a wall. Yet the media continuously polls to determine the percentage of blacks going Obama as opposed to going Clinton. His reference to his "white" grandmother and her bigotry I found totally distasteful for him to have even said publicly. He thought this justified the Reverend Wright's being a bigot? Not hardly. Equally disparaging is the fact that his grandparents raised him while his mother and father were attending political/radical rallies on college campuses. They seemed to be part of the Make Love Not War persuasion with little time for raising a child. I'm a little surprised this has not been made an issue. It certainly was with John Kerry and his protests on returning from Vietnam. 
    The assumption that Hispanics would never go black in any great numbers was to me a direct race card move by the media. Even staging of Obama events dependent on the area was so obvious it was a disgrace. White Pennsylvania showed mostly white faces behind Obama; South Carolina was a majority black faces behind Obama. Even had a couple of Muslims try to sneak into a photo op. That was quickly corrected, however.
    Every time the media tells us Obama is black and on the path to becoming the first black President, I want to scream that he is also white and on the path to becoming the first multi-racial President, and that should not even be a factor in the race. I think it is disgraceful that he allows any mention of race to enter his campaign or challenge another campaign as being racist. If elected President, he has the perfect opportunity to advance 50 years of snail paced Civil Rights activity into a proactive nation that's guided into accepting everybody regardless of what their heritage or mixed heritage might be.
    I used to tell my clients I didn't care if they were or were not prejudiced. Just leave their prejudices in the house before closing their door and going to their workplace. They could pick it up again when they returned home. Between times everybody had a right to equal respect and treatment.
    I seriously doubt Obama will take advantage of this opportunity though. He is not the man so many people think he is. His favorite word is "divisive".  He can stand up and lie just as well as our current President, and for some insane reason Americans let him get by with it. He will create divisiveness such as this country has never known. He will face the dilema, insurmountable I believe, of being accused of giving in to the white faction if the blacks don't feel his love strongly; whites will suggest he represents only 12% of the American population (the black percentage) if he appears to lean too far toward the black issues. Hispanics will have no say in the matter since nobody is trying to woo them after the race is over. He'll be trying to play both ends against the middle and everyone loses.
    McCain is not a much better choice, but at least we know who he is and which way he will probably go. This heretofore confirmed Democrat is jumping lines for this race. 

    July 11, 2008 at 2:30 p.m.

  • Its because of where the country was 50 years ago. It took the civil rights movement and legislation for this historical event to happen. Hillary Clinton was the first woman to go as far as she did in a presidential primary.
    Think of  what that African-American student is thinking “Yes we can” or as Barack Obama said; that little girl can set her sights on the highest office in the land, because Hillary broken that good old boy system.
    All the rest are clichés, because if Obama gets to be president of the United States, then all Americans will cross that barrier with him. We can all put that restriction to rest.

    July 11, 2008 at 2:01 p.m.

  • It should and does not matter the race, sex of the candidate. This year, especially, it is made to matter.
    It's all about.........P O L I T I C S!
    Or more to the point..... anything to do with W I N N I N G! Used to cover up things lacking in other areas.
    It has nothing to do with anything else.

    July 11, 2008 at 11:35 a.m.

  • I think I understand your question, but here's something I found interesting too.  Years ago I worked with a woman who was black.  She was not African-American, she was from Belize, which I believe is in Central America.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.  However, on her birth certificate she was noted as being Hispanic.  It had nothing to do with her color, it had to do with her country of origin.  I also have a Mexican friend, born in the U.S., whose birth certificate indicates he is caucasian, but his cousin was born in Mexico and his birth certificate states he's hispanic.  It's hard to beleive I've had these conversation with my friends, I honestly don't know how they figure these things out.
    If you have ever seen a government application for assistance you will find they ask for your race using, Caucasian, Black/African-American, Hispanic, Pacific Islander, Asian, and other.  What does a person like Obama do?  Circle black or caucasian?  He's definitely half African-American.  I guess he can circle them all.
    We do live in odd times.  Who knows, if I decided to run a DNA test on myself to discover my ancestry, maybe I'm not what I thought I was after all.

    July 11, 2008 at 11:14 a.m.

  • I think the media has really gone overboard with the concept of the first "Black" president.  Why does it matter what color of skin our next president will have. To me it is more important how the next president will run our country and if he will be a strong leader.  One other thing i have noticed is that the media is also using the term "folks" when refering to Americans. Every since Obama started speaking in public and using the term "folks" the media has been using it over and over again. It makes me crazy... I dont have anything against Obama or McCain, but I just think we dont have a strong candidate on either side this time.
    May the lesser of the two evils win............

    July 11, 2008 at 10:43 a.m.