Letters to the editor

Editor, the Advocate:

It was interesting to see the full-page ad in the Advocate during the Fourth of July weekend with “selected” quotes from prominent Americans demonstrating how our nation is supposedly founded on Christian values. Certainly, our nation’s laws share some universal moral values that overlap with many faiths and coded laws dating back to Roman Law and British Common Law but to claim our nation is exclusively Christian is unoriginal, undesirable and wrong. “Christian” nations have slaughtered millions of innocents for over 1,600 years. A recent example:

(We) “tolerate no-one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity… in fact, our movement is Christian. We are filled with a desire for Catholics and Protestants to discover one another”.

— Adolph Hitler, 1928

“Today Christians … stand at the head of Germany. I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity … We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit … We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre and in the press. In short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture, as a result of liberal excess.” — Adolph Hitler, 1930’s

With the “American experiment,” our founders attempted something radical and unprecedented, a secular government that refused to sponsor “ANY” religion and refused to submit to the most powerful Christian nation on earth, England.

A few samples of countless quotes from prominent Americans making their positions clear on this issue:

“The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

— John Adams, Treaty of Tripoli, 1796

“The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries.”

— James Madison, 1803

“Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”

— Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, Feb. 10, 1814

“I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute, where no Catholic prelate would tell the president (should he be Catholic) how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote.”

— John Kennedy’s speech on religion, Sept. 12, 1960

Rick Collie, Victoria

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Allen T Coffey

Thank you very much for the accurate information. There is a reason ministers in the nineteenth century consistently complained about our godless Constitution. Christianity and the Christian God were deliberately left out.

Mary Ann Wenske

Interesting, Mr. Collie points out the "selected quotes" on our nation's Christian founding, then he goes on to have his own'" selected quotes'" himself. This is quite similar to how one can cherry pick quotes from the Bible. The key is to look at how the quotes side up with the nation's actions- laws, enactments, etc. Look at our money- it says "In God We Trust," Congress began every day with a prayer from Ben Franklin's time, and we still have a chaplain today leading a prayer when Congress is in session, and Christmas is a FEDERAL holiday. Our country has is origins in Christianity, no doubt. It was a rather narrow Christianity at times, and it our operations have evolved, in part because of that Christian base. God bless America!

Glenn Wilson

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Glen or Janice Ullman

Amen to that, Thanks Rick…Glen

Douglas Josef Halepaska

Very well written. I wish that I had written it myself.

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