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Editor, the Advocate:

A recently published letter (“Ship of Fools”) makes a number of alarming and alarmingly wrong assertions. Since correcting them all would take more space than is allowed by the Advocate, I’d like to focus, instead, on two which stood out to me as especially egregious.

The first, “Fools right and left think there will come no reckoning for endlessly spending money that is backed only by their printing press.”

To begin with, literally printing money does not add a cent to the economy; physical notes are “paid for” by drawing down reserve accounts (see “Legal tender status” on the US treasury website). To continue, dollars are backed in a number of ways, the most pertinent being a tax obligation that can only be extinguished in dollars as well all the goods and services in the economy, the only things for which dollars can be exchanged domestically. The former is sometimes referred to as chartalism and goes back to Adam Smith at least in book 2 chapter 2 of Wealth of Nations.

The second, “Fools look to science for answers, yet when science DNA clearly identifies two human genders, they push science aside with constructs to ‘prove’ unlimited gender ‘identities’.”

DNA does no such thing. For starters, sex and gender are not identical. For more, discounting xx and xy karyotypes, there are a variety of others, the most common configurations of which are x, xxy, xyy, and xxxy which amount to literally millions of people across the world. Moreover, karyotype alone is also a poor basis for the determination of biological sex as many cases demonstrate (eg Lydia Fairchild, or any one of the biological/genetic men who have persistent Müllerian duct syndrome which means they have fallopian tubes, uteruses, and sometimes even the upper part of the vagina along with menstruating).

The letter concludes with references to Isaiah 5:20, Jeremiah 16:20, and Romans 1:22; perhaps the author should remember the end of Matthew 5:22 (KJV), “whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.” Perhaps the author should have considered all of this — and more — before submitting his letter.

John Schlembach, Victoria

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Steve Fiedler

Aye captain! You've "blinded me with science! failed me in biology". the ship sinks further.

John Schlembach

It's not my fault you made a claim that is demonstrably wrong.

Don't take that me up with me; take it up with geneticists (which is what karyotyping is).

You wanted to talk about the science of DNA as it relates to sex, so let's do that. The problem, as I showed, is that it's not at all what you want it to be.

Quincy Thompson

John, just out of curiosity I want to pose a situation/question to you. Lets say that you had a daughter (XX, female, young lady) who was good in sports and was up for a full ride scholarship to a 4 year college that she really wanted to attend. You then find out that she had been beaten out by a person (XY, male, young man) who was feeling his feminine side, participated as a female and took the scholarship because "it" was better at the sport than your daughter. What would be your response/thoughts and how would you explain this to your daughter?

You are right, there have been a lot of societies that have had thoughts simular to this over the ages and there are a lot of wrecked, sunken ships on the ocean floor of human history to prove it.

Steve Fiedler

good question, answer would be interesting

Steve Fiedler

Here pasted are quotes from a recent, subsequent to mr. schlembach’s letter and all of its postings, senate hearing on new dept of ed secretary cardona. An exchange between sen paul and mr. cardona:

"What do you think in general about boys running in girls track meets, like they've been doing in Connecticut?" Republican Senator Rand Paul asked during Cardona's confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill.

"I think it's critically important to respect the rights of all students, including students who are transgender, and that they are afforded the opportunities that every other student has to participate in extracurricular actives," Cardona responded.

"Does it bother you that the top 20 percent of boys running in track meets beat all of the girls in the state? And that it, you know, will completely destroy girls athletics? The girls are being pushed out. If they don't make the finals in the state meet, they don't get college scholarships, that it's really detrimental to girls sports. Do you worry about having boys running in girls track meets?" Paul followed up. "Do you think it's fair?"

"I recognize and appreciate the concern and the frustrations that are expressed," Cardona said. "I think it's appropriate for, it's the legal responsibility of schools to provide opportunities for students to participate in activities and this includes students who are transgender."

"So you don't have a problem then with boys running in the girls track meet, swimming meets, name it. You're okay then with boys competing with girls?" Paul asked.

"I believe schools should offer the opportunity for students to engage in extracurricular activities, even if they are transgendered. That is their right," Cardona said.

This illustrates real life concerns about gender and transgender issues. The letter writer’s lecture about karyotypes is probably useful to a handful of academic elites. But many of us wonder as does senator Paul, and as questioned by mr. q.t., how real life situations are being carried about by nonsensical liberal minded decision makers and their nonsense decisions. If anyone is still watching this thread I anxiously await the argument that boys competing with girls makes good sense. The girl athlete may be thinking “this guy/girl’s karyotypes are way bigger than mine!” or maybe in the real world the girl says “this guy/girl’s biceps, thighs and calves and whole body is way bigger and stronger than mine. Is this fair coach, mr prinicipal, mr secretary, mr president?” “Well young lady of course it’s fair, just not to you. You don’t have the necessary capital letters beginning with LB, you’re just a female girl. Just get along with the program, maybe you can get your karyotypes more suitably rearranged for this brave new world. Go along now.”

John Schlembach

The weight pulling the ship deeper is the inaccurate statements on your part. You made a claim about genetics; it was wrong. Don't blame me for that.

Quincy Thompson

In my opinion Steve was talking about the fact that in todays liberal agenda you get to decide what gender you are and they have several from which you can chose. In my real world, not discussing your biological anomalies, there are but two sexes and the fools that think that they can change that by choosing something else is what he was talking about. Flaming pink haired males who think they are females or red headed females who have decided they are men are the fools he is talking about and the society that says this is true is totally foolish in its actions. The ship continues to sink!!!

John Schlembach

"In my opinion Steve was talking about the fact that in todays liberal agenda you get to decide what gender you are and they have several from which you can chose."

Trans liberation did not begin with liberals. Societies throughout history have recognized more than two (or three or four or more) genders. And people do get to say what gender they are, and there are many of them.

But he wasn't talking about gender, which is a social construct, he was talking about sex, which is biological.

"In my real world, not discussing your biological anomalies, there are but two sexes and the fools that think that they can change that by choosing something else is what he was talking about."

The problem for you is that in the real world, there *are* more than two sexes. Just because that's inconvenient for the point you want to make, doesn't change that fact. There are even more than the ones I mentioned; those were just the most common that came to mind for me.

"Flaming pink haired males who think they are females or red headed females who have decided they are men are the fools he is talking about and the society that says this is true is totally foolish in its actions."

The fool is the person who thinks they know someone better than they know themselves.

"The ship continues to sink!!!"

I suggest not adding more weight with your baseless assumptions.

Steve Fiedler

Hey mr s i'm just one small fool, hardly any weight on this big ship. But the collective weight of liberal fools and foolery who claim unlimited gender identity is big tonnage. As mr q.t. suggests the karowhatevers are not my point, i gladly concede that to you. And by the way i didnt blame you for anything.

John Schlembach

"Hey mr s i'm just one small fool, hardly any weight on this big ship."

How's that old joke go? A person goes bald by losing one hair?

In any case, I don't recall saying you're a fool. Only that you've said some foolish things. But you can change. I believe in you.

"But the collective weight of liberal fools and foolery who claim unlimited gender identity is big tonnage."

Nope. It doesn't add an ounce.

As mr q.t. suggests the karowhatevers are not my point,"

You literally brought up "science DNA;" they are precisely relevant to the point you thought you were making.

"i gladly concede that to you."

Great. So, when you're able, you'll be submitting a letter of correction?

"And by the way i didnt blame you for anything."

Your responses strongly imply otherwise.

Steve Fiedler

The first commenter to my letter closed by suggesting I may be in danger of h*ll fire for my assertions of others being fools. No regrets here for any of my assertions, be they right or wrong, no ‘corrections’ forthcoming. He quotes scripture but a scripture quoting contest has little useful end. But I now realize that closing paragraph offers me the opportunity to explain why I, and all who believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, need not fear h*ll’s fire. And I do firmly believe that h*ll is a place of fire and eternal torment that I want no part of. I do indeed deserve eternal condemnation, in h*ll’s fires, because I am a sinner, and God, who cannot abide sin, has sentenced me and all sinners, that is all who break even one of His laws, to death. His word says the wages of sin is death. But God also says He does not desire eternal death for anyone. Rather than judging and condemning every sinner, which means every person ever, God so loved the world that He offered up His only Son Jesus Christ, Son of God, but also a sinless man, to be the substitute for all who believe in Him, to take every penalty of eternal condemnatory death upon Himself. Jesus’ voluntary sacrificial death on the cross atoned for the sins of and guarantees eternal salvation to all who confess that He is the Son of God and that God raised Him from the dead. And this happens entirely by God’s own grace and mercy, nothing that you or I have to do or accomplish other than have the faith to believe this. That faith is also His merciful and gracious gift to you and me.

Now do I assert strangers to be fools, or curse sometimes, or lie or commit any number of sins because I can ‘play my Jesus card’ and thereby get away with it? Certainly not, but I live in that human condition in which we all live, where sometimes the good things we do or say we don’t do, but we do the bad things we don’t intend to do. Jesus knows none of us can be perfect, but He is and that’s why He can take the punishment for all of our wrongs. p s somehow the advobot found the presence of profanity? how so?

Quincy Thompson

AMEN, AMEN and AMEN!

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